Belicheat being investigated by the NFL again for cheating

[ByeShea]

for the same reason every team does every bit as much gray area stepping as the pats... what im sick of is the media feeding cry babies in a witch hunt over some shit every team does in one form or another. the successful ones anyways.. this the real world with lots at stake, if you aint doing everything in your power to stay on top shame on you, grow up.

Yet only one team keeps getting caught what all (successful) teams do. Must be part of that Belichick genius.

[stevenash]

Without Bill Parcells, Bill Belichick might not even be in the NFL today.

[MoneyLineDawg]

for the same reason every team does every bit as much gray area stepping as the pats... what im sick of is the media feeding cry babies in a witch hunt over some shit every team does in one form or another. the successful ones anyways.. this the real world with lots at stake, if you aint doing everything in your power to stay on top shame on you, grow up.

I'm all good with people over-stepping the laws and rules.....I'm not naive to think that no one else is looking for an edge

However, when you get caught, you gotta pay the piper, it's just part of the deal and always has been.....A repeat offender deserves to be hammered in anything

If you wanna let someone slip for a 2nd infraction, why even bother to have rules?

[rocky16]

I'm all good with people over-stepping the laws and rules.....I'm not naive to think that no one else is looking for an edge

However, when you get caught, you gotta pay the piper, it's just part of the deal and always has been.....A repeat offender deserves to be hammered in anything

Hey pal, caught doing what exactly?

[slacker00]

People are still talking about this? Good grief. If anything, it's an off-season rules issue. 15 yard penalty at best.

[rocky16]

People are still talking about this? Good grief. If anything, it's an off-season rules issue. 15 yard penalty at best.

Pathetic. Non story being pushed by media hacks and patriot haters eating it right up. This is nothing.

[brooks85]

I don't watch this liberal garbage much anymore but I knew this would be their intro

[chaka]

Pathetic. Non story being pushed by media hacks and patriot haters eating it right up. This is nothing.

i would agree it should be a non story but the fact it took a full week for the coach and qb to address questions about it means there is merit especially for as slacker indicated something punishable by a piddly 15 yd penalty

The thing is the Patriots cant come out now and say we knew it was only a 15 yd penalty because the public perception of saying yes we did it knowing its a 15 yd penalty but we didnt think we would get caught actually will come across far worse than being busted in the denial game because of the implication of how underhanded it makes them look

i think they needed to make sure there was no contradictory video to come out after the fact after they deny it.

this is the frickin superbowl and a coach who never crossed the line would be irate about all the lost time and kill this day one . At least i would be

instead its dragged out for an entire week and he hasnt hardly raised his voice.. NE brought this on themselves and failed to put out the fire...
the timing of this being so close to the eligible/ineligible receiver issue is going to have Mort and Shefter scrutinizing the rule book to see what else the team can be walking a fine line on..
I have no issue with the receiver reporting plays..In fact I think that was brilliant coaching....but we've gone from brilliant coaching to lets see if we get caught..
Patriot fans will say i'm assuming they are guilty, but they have their heart and emotion rendering them incapable of unbiased opinion. Until a legitimate reason can be brought forward explaining how their balls lost air while indy didnt, the actions from the ne side have done nothing to indicate this was unintentional or a fluke

the other issue the patriot nation wont get over is the final score and the second half pt diff....no ones questioning the outcome yet patriot fans keep defending the allegations with "it didnt matter" anyway... You're right it didnt but because their actions didnt change the outcome doesnt make them right.

[mcdonae101]

yea weird. and all this time i thought they were gonna give you crying pussies some truth you feel entitled to

it no wonder why the nfl has become a joke, look no further than the fans of the sport..

next time you get a sack of weed, drink a few beers and drive, oh hell in case you one of those self righteous assholes that think you do nothing illegal lets say next time you take or place a illegal wager you should march your self righteous ass directly to the police station with a signed confession in hand..

difference is is I have yet to get caught doing any of those things u mentioned, and if I do, I would b punished

[rocky16]

i would agree it should be a non story but the fact it took a full week for the coach and qb to address questions about it means there is merit especially for as slacker indicated something punishable by a piddly 15 yd penalty

The thing is the Patriots cant come out now and say we knew it was only a 15 yd penalty because the public perception of saying yes we did it knowing its a 15 yd penalty but we didnt think we would get caught actually will come across far worse than being busted in the denial game because of the implication of how underhanded it makes them look

i think they needed to make sure there was no contradictory video to come out after the fact after they deny it.

this is the frickin superbowl and a coach who never crossed the line would be irate about all the lost time and kill this day one . At least i would be

instead its dragged out for an entire week and he hasnt hardly raised his voice.. NE brought this on themselves and failed to put out the fire...
the timing of this being so close to the eligible/ineligible receiver issue is going to have Mort and Shefter scrutinizing the rule book to see what else the team can be walking a fine line on..
I have no issue with the receiver reporting plays..In fact I think that was brilliant coaching....but we've gone from brilliant coaching to lets see if we get caught..
Patriot fans will say i'm assuming they are guilty, but they have their heart and emotion rendering them incapable of unbiased opinion. Until a legitimate reason can be brought forward explaining how their balls lost air while indy didnt, the actions from the ne side have done nothing to indicate this was unintentional or a fluke

the other issue the patriot nation wont get over is the final score and the second half pt diff....no ones questioning the outcome yet patriot fans keep defending the allegations with "it didnt matter" anyway... You're right it didnt but because their actions didnt change the outcome doesnt make them right.

Why was it up to NE to put out this fire, they didn't create it? The weather deflated the footballs. This story should end tomorrow.

[chaka]

Why was it up to NE to put out this fire, they didn't create it? The weather deflated the footballs. This story should end tomorrow.

So how did the weather only deflate balls from one team?

[rocky16]

So how did the weather only deflate balls from one team?

Pats like their footballs set at 12.5. Weather reduced PSI by 1 pound. Colts balls were 13.5. Losing 1 pound would keep them within tolerance. Non story. The NFL created this mess. Just another reason why goodell needs to go.

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

Um the rules state balls need to be 13.5

Pats deflating balls is illegal
Nothing will come of this until after

[MoneyLineDawg]

Pats like their footballs set at 12.5. Weather reduced PSI by 1 pound. Colts balls were 13.5. Losing 1 pound would keep them within tolerance. Non story. The NFL created this mess. Just another reason why goodell needs to go.

Link?

[MoneyLineDawg]

Another reason they're guilty.....If they were being falsely accused they would have come out initially and been like "I want to get to the bottom of this" and been pissed off....I would really want to know how this happened

They basically played the ignorance card and never once seemed upset about how this could have happened, just were in defense mode trying to lay off the blame.....

Oh well, New England fans believe what they want and the rest of the country can believe what they want as well.....Will be interesting to see what the conclusion is

[stevenash]

Um the rules state balls need to be 13.5

Pats deflating balls is illegal
Nothing will come of this until after

Can you prove they cheated.
I hear some wide outs complain Sherman uses illegal substances on his jersey.

[MoneyLineDawg]

Can you prove they cheated.
I hear some wide outs complain Sherman uses illegal substances on his jersey.

Nasher no one can prove either way 100% at this moment we are all just giving our opinions on what we think is the most likely thing that happened

[chaka]

Kevin Murphy ,who runs american football division at Wilson, said despite reports of cold weather or a player spiking the ball would lead to deflation, the only way to remove that much air that quickly would be to out a needle in the valve and let the air seep out

Wilson, he said, goes to great lengths to ensure balls do not leak even in extreme heat or cold and every ball has a special 3 ply urethan bladder

[stevenash]

^
My opinion is if there was any tom-foolery the ball boy did it, my opinion is Belichick was probably not in on it, my opinion is if Brady was not in on it, sometime, maybe several times during the couse of the season Brady has said to the equiptment guys he likes his balls soft.

[rocky16]

Um the rules state balls need to be 13.5

Pats deflating balls is illegal
Nothing will come of this until after

Wrong.

[rocky16]

Link?

Its pretty easy to find bruh. I ain't providing shit because you're too lazy to do it.

[rocky16]

^
My opinion is if there was any tom-foolery the ball boy did it, my opinion is Belichick was probably not in on it, my opinion is if Brady was not in on it, sometime, maybe several times during the couse of the season Brady has said to the equiptment guys he likes his balls soft.

Brady likes it 12.5. Weather takes 1 pound out. The balls were 1 pound under not two pounds.

[MoneyLineDawg]

Its pretty easy to find bruh. I ain't providing shit because you're too lazy to do it.

Find me where the Colts were at 13.5....LOL

[rocky16]

Find me where the Colts were at 13.5....LOL

Find me where they like it 12.5.

[MoneyLineDawg]

Find me where they like it 12.5.

You're the one that claimed the Colts balls were all at 13.5

I'm calling bullshit until you prove otherwise

[sneakerhead]

Um the rules state balls need to be 13.5

Pats deflating balls is illegal
Nothing will come of this until after

League rules say that minimum is 12.5, where did you get 13.5?

Link?

I didnt see colts liked it at 13.5 but that is something that should be addressed as well.

[stevenash]

Brady likes it 12.5. Weather takes 1 pound out. The balls were 1 pound under not two pounds.

Whatever, I don't care anymore, as a matter of fact I never gave a shit to begin with, I'm so turned off about this whole thing I might not even watch it.

I'll probably bet the under if I bet it at all.

Yeeeesh.

[brooks85]

that is why I would take the under on deflate gate reference during the broadcast, no one is going to want to hear that shit

[boomer62]

Why was it up to NE to put out this fire, they didn't create it? The weather deflated the footballs. This story should end tomorrow.

Alpha man with no brain!! Lol , story not going away. In fact getting more interesting.

[boomer62]

I don't watch this liberal garbage much anymore but I knew this would be their intro

Brooks, LMAO, that was classic and so on the money? I never thought Brady was so INAUTHENTIC! FUKING Fake. Such bullshit again at half time with the Swami

[stevenash]

Rule 2 The BallSection 1BALL DIMENSIONSThe Ball must be a “Wilson,” hand selected, bearing the signature of the Commissioner of the League, Roger Goodell.The ball shall be made up of an inflated (12 1/2 to 13 1/2 pounds) urethane bladder enclosed in a pebble grained, leather case(natural tan color) without corrugations of any kind. It shall have the form of a prolate spheroid and the size and weightshall be: long axis, 11 to 11 1/4 inches; long circumference, 28 to 28 1/2 inches; short circumference, 21 to 21 1/4 inches;weight, 14 to 15 ounces. The Referee shall be the sole judge as to whether all balls offered for play comply with these specifications. A pump is to befurnished by the home club, and the balls shall remain under the supervision of the Referee until they are delivered to theball attendant just prior to the start of the game.Section 2BALL SUPPLYEach team will make 12 primary balls available for testing by the Referee two hours and 15 minutes prior to the starting time ofthe game to meet League requirements. The home team will also make 12 backup balls available for testing in allstadiums. In addition, the visitors, at their discretion, may bring 12 backup balls to be tested by the Referee for gamesheld in outdoor stadiums. For all games, eight new footballs, sealed in a special box and shipped by the manufacturer tothe Referee, will be opened in the officials’ locker room two hours and 15 minutes prior to the starting time of the game.These balls are to be specially marked by the Referee and used exclusively for the kicking game.In the event a home team ball does not conform to specifications, or its supply is exhausted, the Referee shall secure a properball from the visitors and, failing that, use the best available ball. Any such circumstances must be reported to theCommissioner.In case of rain or a wet, muddy, or slippery field, a playable ball shall be used at the request of the offensive team’s center.The Game Clock shall not stop for such action (unless undue delay occurs).Note: It is the responsibility of the home team to furnish playable balls at all times by attendants from either side of the playingfield.

[Vinnie Paz]

New England has had an absurdly low fumble rate since 2007, could be from deflated balls. Great analysis.

http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/sports_nut/2015/01/ballghazi_the_new_england_patriots_lose_an_insanely_low_number_of_fumbles.html”

[TankHankerous]

A HALF OUNCE A FUCKIN' AIR

Do you people seriously give a shit? It's hardly an advantage you nitpickers!

7 pages, my god

[brooks85]

Brooks, LMAO, that was classic and so on the money? I never thought Brady was so INAUTHENTIC! FUKING Fake. Such bullshit again at half time with the Swami

lol yeah, the ending is great. "he has 3 superbowl wins... 6 if you count the losses"

[Vinnie Paz]

Umm it does so make a difference. It's disgraceful, and disrespectful to the integrity of the game