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  • frostno98
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-11-07
    • 9769

    #1
    Russell Wilson already a Hall of Famer if....
    If he beats Rodgers in the NFC Championship game, and then Brady in the Superbowl. It would be hard to argue even if he has 4-5 average seasons the rest of his career. He will probably be the first HOF that is not in the top 10 of any category in the All-time passing list, but will have a decent winning record.

    Since all we do is argue about rings and completely disregard the regular season, I don't see why he won't get in.
  • GunShard
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-05-10
    • 10031

    #2
    The Seahawks are similar to the Ravens on defense when they won the Super Bowl in 2013.
    It's defense that wins championships.
    Flacco defeated both Manning and Brady during that playoff run.
    Both Wilson and Flacco have similar teams.
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    • frostno98
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 09-11-07
      • 9769

      #3
      Originally posted by GunShard
      The Seahawks are similar to the Ravens on defense when they won the Super Bowl in 2013.
      It's defense that wins championships.
      Flacco defeated both Manning and Brady during that playoff run.
      Both Wilson and Flacco have similar teams.
      Yeah nobody cares about that. Rotheileberger had an absolutely anemic game in his first superbowl, but the only thing they will remember is he's 2-1 in the Superbowl. Wilson has an unique opportunity to be in the same class as Montana, Elway, Bradshaw, and Aikman with B2B Championships.
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      • GunShard
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 03-05-10
        • 10031

        #4
        Originally posted by frostno98
        Yeah nobody cares about that. Rotheileberger had an absolutely anemic game in his first superbowl, but the only thing they will remember is he's 2-1 in the Superbowl. Wilson has an unique opportunity to be in the same class as Montana, Elway, Bradshaw, and Aikman with B2B Championships.
        Winning super bowls is a team effort which is why I brought up defense and the fact that Eli Manning won more super bowls than Peyton Manning is because Eli had the better overall team in his career than Peyton did in his career.
        Team work is a stronger factor than the quarterback factor alone.
        Nobody cares about this argument that's when they say Eli is better Peyton. Which is wrong.
        Everyone should care because team work is critical.

        I hope Wilson does win back to back championships.
        He would be in a very unique situation, no question be in the HOF.

        Wilson has a great overall team on offense, defense and special teams to possibly win 3 super bowls in a row.
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        • MoMoneyMoVaughn
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 05-08-14
          • 14988

          #5
          Originally posted by GunShard
          Wilson has a great overall team on offense, defense and special teams to possibly win 3 super bowls in a row.
          He still has to beat GB first. I know Rodgers beat up. But this will not be a walk in the park.
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          • TwoWays
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 03-24-10
            • 13145

            #6
            He's still an Uncle Tom. See he advertises bose for nfl. The brothas are in beats by dre commercials
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            • GunShard
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 03-05-10
              • 10031

              #7
              Originally posted by MoMoneyMoVaughn
              He still has to beat GB first. I know Rodgers beat up. But this will not be a walk in the park.
              I know. This thread topic should be discussed during or after the super bowl.
              Seahawks are most likely to defeat the Packers but we shall see.
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              • rm18
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 09-20-05
                • 22291

                #8
                Gronk already a HOF'er at a younger age though.
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                • JMobile
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 08-21-10
                  • 19074

                  #9
                  Originally posted by MoMoneyMoVaughn
                  He still has to beat GB first. I know Rodgers beat up. But this will not be a walk in the park.
                  Hawks will beat the Packers.
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                  • Smoke
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-09-09
                    • 48111

                    #10
                    Frosty nooooooooooooooo
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                    • sneakerhead
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 07-14-10
                      • 7727

                      #11
                      he is there because of his defense

                      he is still a poor pocket passer imo, most of his plays are scrambles
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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388179

                        #12
                        Guy rarely makes a mistake

                        massive big play qb..one of best in last 25 years
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                        • Snowball
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 11-15-09
                          • 30058

                          #13
                          so is the NFL Hall of Fame a joke now like the Rock n Roll ?
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                          • Snowball
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 11-15-09
                            • 30058

                            #14
                            Originally posted by jjgold
                            Guy rarely makes a mistake

                            massive big play qb..one of best in last 25 years
                            pfff
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                            • Big Bear
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 11-01-11
                              • 43253

                              #15
                              why do u people care about individual honors /awards like the hall of fame?

                              winning bets is the only thing that matters
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                              • SharkAA
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-10-13
                                • 2005

                                #16
                                Originally posted by sneakerhead
                                he is there because of his defense

                                he is still a poor pocket passer imo, most of his plays are scrambles
                                Because he's not your typical pocket passer, he's a mobile QB and he employs his tactics accordingly. When he decides to play in the pocket, off linemen have to adjust by ducking and he must go way back, so he can have better vision to find a receiver. He's 5 feet 11 inches tall. It's really Drew Brees, who is an exception among smaller QBs.
                                You can't deny Wilson's abilities by saying 'he's there because of his defense'. That is partially true, but the guy had 849 yards in rushing and 3475 yards in passing this regular season. Whether you like it or not, Wilson is an amazing QB.
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                                • BeanTownClown88
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-08-13
                                  • 1961

                                  #17
                                  He has the best chance to be the next guy to see 6+ SB's ..still a long way to go but getting to 2 right off the bat is how that will be achieved
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                                  • R.P. McMurphy
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 06-15-12
                                    • 9654

                                    #18
                                    Sheli Manning has 2 as well and over Brady. If I had a vote he would not be getting a nod from me!
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                                    • jjgold
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388179

                                      #19
                                      I love how most of us cannot even hold a football criticize hall of famers
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                                      • slacker00
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 10-06-05
                                        • 12262

                                        #20
                                        RW wins #2 this year, then wins $100M contract. Then SEA won't be able to hold that D together due to cap issues.
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                                        • swordsandtequila
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 02-23-12
                                          • 9757

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by sneakerhead
                                          he is there because of his defense

                                          he is still a poor pocket passer imo, most of his plays are scrambles
                                          Third down passing last week: 8 for 8, 199 yds and 3 tds. So much for that theory.
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                                          • slacker00
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 10-06-05
                                            • 12262

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by swordsandtequila
                                            Third down passing last week: 8 for 8, 199 yds and 3 tds. So much for that theory.
                                            Against a solid CAR defense that was peaking, no less. I'm more and more impressed with RW every time I watch him.
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                                            • jjgold
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388179

                                              #23
                                              If he wins this year he's already a Hall of Famer

                                              If not he might have to win one more because of statistics would not be that great
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                                              • R.P. McMurphy
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 06-15-12
                                                • 9654

                                                #24
                                                Stats can always improve guys he's still very green. Actually reminds me of Brady a bit when he was young in ways. More mobile obviously but is just smart, plays with intensity , and has the clutch factor. Brady was pretty much a "game manager" early who was not putting up crazy #'s early on. Hags also focus on run more and don't exactly have an arsenal of talent in pass gm. Too bad Harvin is a nut job but give him another year or so and have somebody step up and emerge in pass gm he's comfortable with and the #'s should come.
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                                                • donkbetter
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 11-03-11
                                                  • 314

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by TwoWays
                                                  He's still an Uncle Tom. See he advertises bose for nfl. The brothas are in beats by dre commercials
                                                  fool
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                                                  • Sdotbold
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-24-09
                                                    • 1444

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by slacker00
                                                    Against a solid CAR defense that was peaking, no less. I'm more and more impressed with RW every time I watch him.
                                                    I also am amazed when i watch him play, im not old enough to have seen fran tarkenton play live, but the style is very similar looking to me. I think when its all said and done he will be one of the greatest to have ever played.
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                                                    • meader99
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 10-30-10
                                                      • 4223

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by BeanTownClown88
                                                      He has the best chance to be the next guy to see 6+ SB's ..still a long way to go but getting to 2 right off the bat is how that will be achieved
                                                      No shot. Next year he becomes the highest paid QB in the league, and you will see the dismantling of the LOB.
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                                                      • 44 Mag
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                                                        • 10-14-13
                                                        • 34490

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by frostno98
                                                        If he beats Rodgers in the NFC Championship game, and then Brady in the Superbowl. It would be hard to argue even if he has 4-5 average seasons the rest of his career. He will probably be the first HOF that is not in the top 10 of any category in the All-time passing list, but will have a decent winning record.

                                                        Since all we do is argue about rings and completely disregard the regular season, I don't see why he won't get in.
                                                        "COME ON MAN" what is it 3 years???
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                                                        • 44 Mag
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 10-14-13
                                                          • 34490

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by jjgold
                                                          If he wins this year he's already a Hall of Famer

                                                          If not he might have to win one more because of statistics would not be that great
                                                          Hey, let's put Eli in there as well.
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                                                          • packerd_00
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 05-22-13
                                                            • 17811

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Snowball
                                                            so is the NFL Hall of Fame a joke now like the Rock n Roll ?
                                                            Don't remind about the Rock and Roll HOF,what a farce.
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                                                            • MMA Fan
                                                              SBR Hustler
                                                              • 08-14-12
                                                              • 74

                                                              #31
                                                              It's too early for Wilson, but I think Rodgers could really solidify a place in HOF by winning another.
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                                                              • frostno98
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 09-11-07
                                                                • 9769

                                                                #32
                                                                He plays exactly like John Elway in his younger days.
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                                                                • Dr.Gonzo
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 12-05-09
                                                                  • 4660

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by TwoWays
                                                                  He's still an Uncle Tom. See he advertises bose for nfl. The brothas are in beats by dre commercials
                                                                  Beats are garbage.

                                                                  I don't really understand this logic when black culture has become a whore for extravagance and high end designer labels.

                                                                  Why wouldn't they want the Bose?
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                                                                  • frostno98
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 09-11-07
                                                                    • 9769

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
                                                                    Beats are garbage.

                                                                    I don't really understand this logic when black culture has become a whore for extravagance and high end designer labels.

                                                                    Why wouldn't they want the Bose?
                                                                    Over priced yes, garbage far from it. And I use a ton of over the head headphone through the years when I'm jogging, this is easily the best. If your an old ugly grumpy guy that don't care for the full music experience then yes it's garbage.
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                                                                    • teaserpleaser
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                                                                      • 08-14-08
                                                                      • 26015

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
                                                                      Beats are garbage.

                                                                      I don't really understand this logic when black culture has become a whore for extravagance and high end designer labels.

                                                                      Why wouldn't they want the Bose?
                                                                      what cool rap icon is behind bose? And the culutural extravagance and high end designer label logic has been going on for as long as I can remember early 80s is what it is ...like asking why Asians like high end or designer things a very status symbol driven culture.
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