Life is great without gambling

[BrickJames]

I eat steak and lobster almost everyday now ever since I've stopped gambling. You can have those same luxuries if you stop being a degenerate and start focusing on putting in hard honest work instead. Trust me it's a life changer.

only lobsters you are eating is your punk chicks nasty puss bruh, stop lying.

who you tryin ta kid pal?

[dontknowhowtobet]

don't you need to have a real job to gamble? how do people lose so much money???

no bank management? how do u eat?

I do have a job but I would give you an example from my life from my last bet I ever placed.
Currently, my current UK account has only £6.00 in it, but I have an agreed overdraft of £1,000/day (for £1/day) and also a *********** (more than one) with a credit limit of £6,000.

So with my last bet I risked £1,000 using Moneybookers (aka Skrill) taken from my ***********, depositing it into TheGreek and placing a bet of OVER 210 in the Milwaukee-Phoenix NBA (that ended with 198 points).

Now I'm £1,000 in debt - how would I pay it back? From my salary and/or from the property ... there is no other way for me to pay this debt ... yes, I can always try and bet £2,000 this time and "win it back" but no one assures me I won't lose those £2,000 again ... and that is how the mindset of a gambler works....

It's the same like a guy betting on the roulette ... he bets on the black, wins, loses, but eventually he would reach the point I've reached, he would bet more than he can afford and then society would blame him for having money management issues and not controlling himself before he completely stopped.

But the system is designed for you NOT TO stop, the system is designed for you to come back.
Even if you ask a casino or a bookmaker to ban you and self-exclude you ... many times if you beg them later you want to UNDO your self-exclusion and want to come back - they would let you do that. Their interest is to make money from you, not to look for your safety ... they only use bullshit excuses that they "look for your safety" because of regulation and because they are licensed and if they won't do the bare minimum they risk themselves losing a lot more in court.

So as for your question - people do work, do make a living, but many of them lose it and many of them live in debts, big debts ... I'm not in debt ... yes, my *********** is in £1,000 hole but I have enough in another account to cover for it, I just won't transfer funds to avoid the fees etc. as I know I should get paid soon and cover this debt ... so I will be fine ... but many people aren't, and many of them are in much bigger holes.

[dontknowhowtobet]

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*********** = Cradit Kard.

[Dollars2Donuts]

Buddy, I invested $200 two and a half years ago.....and have never funded an account since. I started betting $10-20 a game and within a month was betting $200 a game. So no, what you are talking about does not HAVE to happen. If I had lost I would have lowered my wagers to make sure my roll stayed healthy.

And I don't mind having $11k out there when it is an Pinny, 5dimes and the like.

[Ace_of_Spades]

Only for folks like yourself who are completely dead inside and have no clue what genuine happiness is.

Very true. I am dead inside.

[dontknowhowtobet]

Yeah. 6000 wagers and I am about to hit a cold streak. Jeez man, get a life. If you bet smart, know sports, bet edges and manage your money....and of course have natural ability....I truly believe that....you can win log term. Not hard to figure out.

If you hit 55.5 % of your wagers over 6000 bets I can tell you that any statistician in the world will say that the numbers have become 'statistically significant'.....meaning, it isn't a fluke. The more you flip a coin or guess the more you regress toward the mean (50% in this case). Hitting 55.5% of wagers over 6000 times flipping a coin would happen in one in 1/47,659,259,400 times.

That's 47 Billion with a B.

It is just math guys.....not too tough.

The system is designed to make the gambler lose more than he can afford.
It's designed to make him chase and double the lost amount in order to win it back.
It never ends.

http://www.gamblingstories.com/index.php?/topic/8-my-best-way-to-stop-gambling/

Treat gambling as a "friend" or as a form of "entertainment" - and you would lose, big time, money and time, and you could lose plenty of those in the long run! Gambling is not your friend and is not a form of entertainment!

It should never be approached this way.
Gambling is a way for bookmakers and the gambling industry to take money from you, pure and simple.

[dontknowhowtobet]

Buddy, I invested $200 two and a half years ago.....and have never funded an account since. I started betting $10-20 a game and within a month was betting $200 a game. So no, what you are talking about does not HAVE to happen. If I had lost I would have lowered my wagers to make sure my roll stayed healthy.

And I don't mind having $11k out there when it is an Pinny, 5Dimes and the like.

Somehow I find this story difficult to be credible, but as I said even if it's true - good for you.
For many others gambling doesn't end like this ... they don't know when to stop.

Gamblers usually are impatient people (i.e. cannot keep money in the account, the like the "ALL OR NOTHING" approach), they lie about their habit (i.e. could you lie about it?) and they definitely are NOT in control.

[Dollars2Donuts]

Somehow I find this story difficult to be credible, but as I said even if it's true - good for you.
For many others gambling doesn't end like this ... they don't know when to stop.

Gamblers usually are impatient people (i.e. cannot keep money in the account, the like the "ALL OR NOTHING" approach), they lie about their habit (i.e. could you lie about it?) and they definitely are NOT in control.

Agreed. Most people.

See, most people that shop at Walmart are ugly, most people that don't finish high school are low IQ, most people that are rich are smart....but you need to understand that the 'norm' doesn't include everyone.

What I am offended by, and I have felt this since seeing your first post, is that you INSIST on lumping everyone together. It is the way you present your agreement. It comes across as arrogance. You do not know everything, there are obviously people out there making money, while that number is small (I believe less than 3%) they do exist. So to say otherwise is just ignorant.

[Dollars2Donuts]

As for whether my story is credible or not, I hqr provided many screen shots over the years....from deposit and withdrawal histories in my original Bodog accounts, to monthly numbers, and have well over 2000 documented wagers on the site. All there in black and white for anyone to see.

I can assure you of one other thing. I am not the only one.

[jtoler]

Somehow I find this story difficult to be credible, but as I said even if it's true - good for you.
For many others gambling doesn't end like this ... they don't know when to stop.

Gamblers usually are impatient people (i.e. cannot keep money in the account, the like the "ALL OR NOTHING" approach), they lie about their habit (i.e. could you lie about it?) and they definitely are NOT in control.

Not knocking you or Swaggy P, trust me Im proud of you guys if thats what you want to do. Just kinda strange, I mean if I was an alcoholic and had finally sobered up after many years dont think Id be able to go to a bar and chat it up with the local drunks, seems one would be headed back to the bottle without question no?

[Mister X]

If you can win long term you should easily be able to become rich like Billy Walters and be a professional gambler

Most people here that say they can beat the the game consistantly still work for a living

[dontknowhowtobet]

while that number is small (I believe less than 3%) they do exist. So to say otherwise is just ignorant.

The majority of members in this forum, if confronted would be among those 97% who have problems.
You could be among those 3% lucky people who can control their gambling and even make money from it - but supposedly how long will it last? Can you sign on a document stating that in 24 months your balance would be at least $66,000 or more if you keep on doing what you you're doing now (currently that is $55,000)?

This instability is inevitable - it's impossible to take the instability away from gambling ... but taking the fact that the odds are stacked against you is definitely a pure and a simple fact!

[dontknowhowtobet]

As for whether my story is credible or not, I hqr provided many screen shots over the years....from deposit and withdrawal histories in my original Bodog accounts, to monthly numbers, and have well over 2000 documented wagers on the site. All there in black and white for anyone to see.

I can assure you of one other thing. I am not the only one.

I joined this website in 2009. (6 years ago)
You joined it less than 2 years ago.

I can assure you one thing - I really don't know where things will be for you 6 years from the moment you joined this site (approx 4 years from now) but something tells me that a good run never lasts forever ... not trying to be jinx at all ... just telling you honestly my experience with this type of establishment.

[dontknowhowtobet]

if I was an alcoholic and had finally sobered up after many years dont think Id be able to go to a bar and chat it up with the local drunks, seems one would be headed back to the bottle without question no?

Gambling by most is not about placing bets, especially not with sports where the action of placing the bet takes a fraction of the time you invest in talking about it, investing time reading about it, calculating chances and so on.

A roulette bettor might spend equal time placing bets and talking about it, and if he does it online he probably does not even talk about it ... it's just too "secretive" for him to discuss with anyone (and this is where there is a real problem).

The fact we discuss the topic, day in and day out, talk about it, prepare our bets, aiming for the profit, not considering what the risk is involved with and so on - are all things in our mindset, and yes, so is the recovery.

Unlike alcoholic person who might not want to hear the word alcohol or know there is alcohol in the house - the sports bettors are the people who actually talk more about the problem or about the games they bet with and that is part of their nature!

http://www.gamblingfactsandfictions.com/id25.htm

Sports bettors sometimes will mull over the game that was just played. They will think about the various situations and problems that happened in the game that caused the bet to win or lose. They may reflect on the game for some weeks, months or longer believing that this may help to handicap another game down the road. They may even remember the game for next season or for years to come, thinking this may help to evaluate the game plans of a coach or the tendencies of a team. This is a form of Monday morning quarterbacking. The expression "Monday morning quarterback" got this name because most professional football games are played on Sundays. Then on Monday after the games are over, everyone is a game analysis expert when they have all of the game scores. When the games are over, only then is any sports bettor a sports handicapping expert.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

swaggy and dontknowhowtobet should give each other reach-arounds and fukk each other in the ass while posting on sbr.

they're made for each other. true love is hard to find, who knew people can find true love at sbr? i'm happy for you two. congrats!!!

[dontknowhowtobet]

swaggy and dontknowhowtobet should give each other reach-arounds and fukk each other in the ass while posting on sbr.

they're made for each other. true love is hard to find, who knew people can find true love at sbr? i'm happy for you two. congrats!!!

I'm already married and I have a wife I love and adore - what about you?

[BrickJames]

I'm already married and I have a wife I love and adore - what about you?

im gaping your trick ass wife right now bruh, she told me you calling asking when she will be home?

[Dollars2Donuts]

If you can win long term you should easily be able to become rich like Billy Walters and be a professional gambler

Most people here that say they can beat the the game consistantly still work for a living

I agree, wholeheartedly. I have one account that I only use to make my 'best bets'. It started with $1000 a year ago. I wager to win, exactly 5% of that account balance each time I decide to make a wager. In 400 days I have only made 100 wagers or so and have increased the balance from $1000 to $5300.

That account is at Pinnacle.

The plan is that I will continue to do that, with no end in site. At some point I will begin to withdraw funds to deposit at other sites, and hope to eventually hold part of the balance in a financial institution. If all goes well I believe that within two years I will be wagering $1000 per game in that account. There is no end game with that account....if I can work that account into something serious.....then it is what it is. I believe I can, by the way.

There re is no risk associated with the account. I never wager anything other than 5%. It has been a slow and easy ascension to where I am now and if it goes to plan....I will be one of those people you speak of.

Will it ever be my sole living? I don't cate how big it gets, that will never happen. I am a Director of Sales for one of the largest companies in the world....a position that I covet and that I exelled to get...and I love what I do....I will probably do it until I am 80, whether I need it or not.

[dontknowhowtobet]

I agree, wholeheartedly. I have one account that I only use to make my 'best bets'. It started with $1000 a year ago. I wager to win, exactly 5% of that account balance each time I decide to make a wager. In 400 days I have only made 100 wagers or so and have increased the balance from $1000 to $5300.

That account is at Pinnacle.

The plan is that I will continue to do that, with no end in site. At some point I will begin to withdraw funds to deposit at other sites, and hope to eventually hold part of the balance in a financial institution. If all goes well I believe that within two years I will be wagering $1000 per game in that account. There is no end game with that account....if I can work that account into something serious.....then it is what it is. I believe I can, by the way.

There re is no risk associated with the account. I never wager anything other than 5%. It has been a slow and easy ascension to where I am now and if it goes to plan....I will be one of those people you speak of.

Will it ever be my sole living? I don't cate how big it gets, that will never happen. I am a Director of Sales for one of the largest companies in the world....a position that I covet and that I exelled to get...and I love what I do....I will probably do it until I am 80, whether I need it or not.

Sounds like a recipe for a failure ... I would just take the money and leave but you're in the middle of it, got hooked, there won't be an easy way out.

Look at this guy, made 6 figures per year in British pounds, not dollars ... look what happened to him in the end:

http://www.gamblingstories.com/index.php?/topic/15-someone-who-started-with-a-%C2%A35-bet-ended-up-losing-%C2%A3750000/

[dontknowhowtobet]

im gaping your trick ass wife right now bruh, she told me you calling asking when she will be home?

She's with me so how can you gape her?
You're truly an idiot, pure idiot.

[shari91]

Gambling by most is not about placing bets, especially not with sports where the action of placing the bet takes a fraction of the time you invest in talking about it, investing time reading about it, calculating chances and so on.

A roulette bettor might spend equal time placing bets and talking about it, and if he does it online he probably does not even talk about it ... it's just too "secretive" for him to discuss with anyone (and this is where there is a real problem).

The fact we discuss the topic, day in and day out, talk about it, prepare our bets, aiming for the profit, not considering what the risk is involved with and so on - are all things in our mindset, and yes, so is the recovery.

Unlike alcoholic person who might not want to hear the word alcohol or know there is alcohol in the house - the sports bettors are the people who actually talk more about the problem or about the games they bet with and that is part of their nature!

http://www.gamblingfactsandfictions.com/id25.htm

Sports bettors sometimes will mull over the game that was just played. They will think about the various situations and problems that happened in the game that caused the bet to win or lose. They may reflect on the game for some weeks, months or longer believing that this may help to handicap another game down the road. They may even remember the game for next season or for years to come, thinking this may help to evaluate the game plans of a coach or the tendencies of a team. This is a form of Monday morning quarterbacking. The expression "Monday morning quarterback" got this name because most professional football games are played on Sundays. Then on Monday after the games are over, everyone is a game analysis expert when they have all of the game scores. When the games are over, only then is any sports bettor a sports handicapping expert.

Dude seriously:

Ask anyone who has given up smoking or booze or worse if those analogies ^^^^^^^^^^ would apply and you'd probably get 10x worse than some dude sitting on his couch thinking about a game a year ago. What about guys going through rubbish bins for ciggie butts to get the drug nicotine fix? Or guys concocting sicko drinks to try to get the buzz of booze without paying full price? Or guys beating the shit out of old women so they could stick a needle in their arm and then crying after because they know how disgusting that is?

Gambling is an addiction, yes. But it's not one that's ingested. It's not a drug, a drink, a smoke. There is no physical withdrawal from stopping gambling. Oh wait, you'll have more $ in your purse. Smarten up and quit if you want to or just shut up and bet. I'll help you with the former <<<< But seriously enough is enough with the babbling.

[Dollars2Donuts]

Sounds like a recipe for a failure ... I would just take the money and leave but you're in the middle of it, got hooked, there won't be an easy way out.

Look at this guy, made 6 figures per year in British pounds, not dollars ... look what happened to him in the end:

http://www.gamblingstories.com/index...-%C2%A3750000/

Sounds like a recipe for failure.

Wow.

I have just explained, in great detail, why there is not risk. I have no great emotional attachment to gambling, although I am a sports fanatic and this makes that more enjoyable than before.

I must say.....you seem a little daft. No matter what I may say, you seem to ignore it and apply comments like 'recipe for disaster'. I would love to know why it rings of disaster to you?

Unlike you, I do not 'freak out' with wins or losses. You obviously cannot handle the mental side of it....and that is why you SHOULD get out of it. The funny thing is....you have a bigger issue than most here. I am quite sure you are an addict and it will only be a later of time before you are back and losing....and complaining.

[BrickJames]

Dude seriously:

Ask anyone who has given up smoking or booze or worse if those analogies ^^^^^^^^^^ would apply and you'd probably get 10x worse than some dude sitting on his couch thinking about a game a year ago. What about guys going through rubbish bins for ciggie butts to get the drug nicotine fix? Or guys concocting sicko drinks to try to get the buzz of booze without paying full price? Or guys beating the shit out of old women so they could stick a needle in their arm and then crying after because they know how disgusting that is?

Gambling is an addiction, yes. But it's not one that's ingested. It's not a drug, a drink, a smoke. There is no physical withdrawal from stopping gambling. Oh wait, you'll have more $ in your purse. Smarten up and quit if you want to or just shut up and bet. I'll help you with the former <<<< But seriously enough is enough with the babbling.

sheri is my boo, back up guys

[dontknowhowtobet]

Unlike you, I do not 'freak out' with wins or losses.

It's because you haven't been through a losing streak yet, but it could happen ... not trying to be jinx, just telling you there are too many uncertainties when it comes to gambling.

You obviously cannot handle the mental side of it....and that is why you SHOULD get out of it. The funny thing is....you have a bigger issue than most here. I am quite sure you are an addict and it will only be a later of time before you are back and losing....and complaining.

I am not ashamed to admit I have a gambling problem, I am not ashamed to call it an issue and I'm not ashamed TO get out of it and tell myself that I SHOULD not go back to it.
There is nothing wrong with admitting you have a problem.

You need to realize there are too many silent readers here and in other forums, they know exactly what I'm referring to and what you're referring to - this is exactly the main problem here - the lack of control when it comes to gambling, and unfortunately to many people have this problem.

[Dr.Gonzo]

If you're a dart chucker who bets above his means it's probably best that you quit gambling.

However, just because you failed in one avenue does not mean others can't succeeded.

And just because you lack self discipline does not mean others must as well.

[Dollars2Donuts]

It's because you haven't been through a losing streak yet, but it could happen ... not trying to be jinx, just telling you there are too many uncertainties when it comes to gambling.



I am not ashamed to admit I have a gambling problem, I am not ashamed to call it an issue and I'm not ashamed TO get out of it and tell myself that I SHOULD not go back to it.
There is nothing wrong with admitting you have a problem.

You need to realize there are too many silent readers here and in other forums, they know exactly what I'm referring to and what you're referring to - this is exactly the main problem here - the lack of control when it comes to gambling, and unfortunately to many people have this problem.

I have made more than 6000 wagers....how is it possible that I haven't had a losing streak?? Of course I have. I even posted a 1-23 day. I bet heavy volume man....nobody wagers more games across more sports. That is MY WAY of beating variance, better known as losing streaks. I bet a small amount of my roll every day on a bunch of games.....I play so much volume that it evens out the peaks and valleys.

If a guy went 1-23 betting once per day for 24 days and went 1-23 he would go insane.....and broke. I have a 1-23 and get it out of the way in one day and the next day I am back, refreshed and ready to go 23-1.

[dontknowhowtobet]

If you're a dart chucker who bets above his means it's probably best that you quit gambling.
However, just because you failed in one avenue does not mean others can't succeeded.
And just because you lack self discipline does not mean others must as well.

Besides Dollars2Donuts and Billy Walters, who else here is actually MAKING money from gambling?

[Dollars2Donuts]

I can name a dozen others that I KNOW make money. Plus one friend of mine here in Vancouver.... not a big crew, but then again, u don't know that many people to begin with.

[dontknowhowtobet]

I have made more than 6000 wagers....how is it possible that I haven't had a losing streak?? Of course I have. I even posted a 1-23 day. I bet heavy volume man....nobody wagers more games across more sports. That is MY WAY of beating variance, better known as losing streaks. I bet a small amount of my roll every day on a bunch of games.....I play so much volume that it evens out the peaks and valleys.

If a guy went 1-23 betting once per day for 24 days and went 1-23 he would go insane.....and broke. I have a 1-23 and get it out of the way in one day and the next day I am back, refreshed and ready to go 23-1.

I don't know how you managed to stay alive in that way, you're probably taking advantage of Pinnacle's very low juice, that's one thing that stands for your own advantage, and likewise the fact you don't deposit & withdraw but simply keep on betting so you already met their rollover requirements ...

However as I said I'm not sure who else here is doing so "well" like you D2D?

[dontknowhowtobet]

I can name a dozen others that I KNOW make money. Plus one friend of mine here in Vancouver.... not a big crew, but then again, u don't know that many people to begin with.

I know a guy who made $50,000 out of gambling and ended up broke, he's in big debts now.
I know that people who make money from gambling - usually lose the lot in the end.

Why?
Because it takes one single moment to break and then it's all loose (and you lose as well).

[BrickJames]

dudes are soft

[dontknowhowtobet]

dudes are soft

Who are you referring to and what you mean by "soft"?

[opie1988]

Only pussies don't gamble.

End of story.

[daneblazer]

Christ almighty who has time to read all this

Especially with games to cap

[Ra77er]

I'm only confused on why someone that doesn't bet anymore still posts on a betting forum? Lonely? Broke? I mean if I'm done with something that's it. I don't take a crap and then hang around the toilet to see if its coming back up.