Need some Online Book advice....help please.

[Dollars2Donuts]

OK, so since I closed down my Bodog account two years ago I have used 5Dimes and Pinny exclusively. I have enjoyed both for what they are, but have had some issues with 5dimes which I won't go into. I am now looking to change things up. I called this am to do my first withdrawal from 5dimes and will vacate as quickly as possible.

What I am looking for is two new online books to use in conjunction with Pinny. I want betting line shopping options and I want to spread my funds out a little more....I may eventually go to four books. I saw that there was a bonus at the Greek of 100% PLUS a bonus of 50% if you buy some coupon from the store here at SBR. Can anyone tell me about Greek? Decent lines? Payouts? I am assuming that if I deposit $500 (the max for the bonus) that they will match $500 and because of SBR I will get another $250? Or is it another 50% of the total of $1000 (for $500).

Anyone have other recommendations for books that have great bonuses but still have good lines and easy payouts? I don't mind high rollovers, the fact is that the volume I bet I don't have an issue rolling over any bonus in no time.

If you could just name a book or two and the reasons that you love that book I would really appreciate it. Frankly, I cannot really trust any of these rating systems....I want to feel safe, get decent customer service and not have to worry about my funds.

Thanks in advance,

D2D

[No coincidences]

I like BetOnline, Bookmaker and SportsInteraction personally.

BOL has a ton of live betting options.

Bookmaker is Bookmaker.

SIA has great, Bovada-ish lines for dogs.

All three are solid books for me. Never had problems with deposits, payouts, customer service, etc. Though I'm far from a "high roller."

Good luck, D2D.

[Dollars2Donuts]

I like BetOnline, Bookmaker and SportsInteraction personally.

BOL has a ton of live betting options.

Bookmaker is Bookmaker.

SIA has great, Bovada-ish lines for dogs.

All three are solid books for me. Never had problems with deposits, payouts, customer service, etc. Though I'm far from a "high roller."

Good luck, D2D.

Do we know of any bonuses associated with any of these? I have never been a 'bonus guy', but then again I have never been much of a 'reload guy' either......so never had to learn what was what.

I know I could just do the research....but even thinking about it makes my head want to explode....I would much prefer to sit and look at lines.

[paco]

HRWager. Great customer service. Pays out promptly. Super great bonuses. $500 max on bets which is fine for me so that's no issue. I'm sure if U wanted more, George would hook U up.

[Dollars2Donuts]

HRWager. Great customer service. Pays out promptly. Super great bonuses. $500 max on bets which is fine for me so that's no issue. I'm sure if U wanted more, George would hook U up.

200% initial deposit bonus? That is incredible. Are they affiliated with SBR? How long have they been around? Sorry to ask so many questions, I tend not to make changes often, but when I do I want to make sure that they work for me.

[Dollars2Donuts]

Also guys, I am not very good with depositing, withdrawing, using e-wallets, etc. I have always been more of an old school guy, depositing with a CC and then withdrawing by cheque mailed to my home....

What should I be using that all of the books recognize? I recently signed up with Paypal and Skrill....anything else I should have? I just hate having my banking info out in so many different spots.

[Russian Rocket]

dude did you get mad at them for not processing your payout before the 5th? ....we're all on the same boat...I'm also waiting for one

my advice is step over your principals here and keep 5D's as one of your outs...if you need something other than Pinny and 5D's, look into bet365 - they have one of the best live betting menus...

stay away from bonuses and bonus books and the rest of that nonsense...that shit is designed to lure in brokedikks and you're not one of them

gl!

[paco]

I've been only playing with them little over a year. George was partners with 1vice and decided to go on his own. Griffin at 1vice is solid also. There are no Sbr payout complaints on either 1. I deposit p2p, but I'm sure there are better options for Canadians.

edit: U being Canadian, seems bet365 would be great out, as rocket said best live betting for everything. I use them just to see soccer scores. Always wondered how the hell they got live updates on every single fucken soccer game around the world but they do

[No coincidences]

Do we know of any bonuses associated with any of these? I have never been a 'bonus guy', but then again I have never been much of a 'reload guy' either......so never had to learn what was what.

I know I could just do the research....but even thinking about it makes my head want to explode....I would much prefer to sit and look at lines.

I think BOL has big bonuses. I don't know. I've never done them.

[No coincidences]

Also guys, I am not very good with depositing, withdrawing, using e-wallets, etc. I have always been more of an old school guy, depositing with a CC and then withdrawing by cheque mailed to my home....

What should I be using that all of the books recognize? I recently signed up with Paypal and Skrill....anything else I should have? I just hate having my banking info out in so many different spots.

BOL and Bookmaker both have easy CC options for depositing.

[No coincidences]

I've been only playing with them little over a year. George was partners with 1vice and decided to go on his own. Griffin at 1vice is solid also. There are no Sbr payout complaints on either 1. I deposit p2p, but I'm sure there are better options for Canadians.

edit: U being Canadian, seems bet365 would be great out, as rocket said best live betting for everything. I use them just to see soccer scores. Always wondered how the hell they got live updates on every single fucken soccer game around the world but they do

Agree that 365 is probably the best one to add since he's not in the States.

Any reason you haven't signed up at SIA yet? They're right in your back yard.

[paco]

Agree that 365 is probably the best one to add since he's not in the States.

Any reason you haven't signed up at SIA yet? They're right in your back yard.

Never actually looked into it or heard of it. I did play at BetDSI but they have casino games U can play right off the iphone which didn't go so well after a night of drinking so once I tapped out I never used them again lol

does sia have live hockey wagering? Looking for that

edit: sia is sportsInteraction? Just tried to sign up says doesn't take usa customer ?

[Lazy-Man]

dude did you get mad at them for not processing your payout before the 5th? ....we're all on the same boat...I'm also waiting for one

my advice is step over your principals here and keep 5D's as one of your outs...if you need something other than Pinny and 5D's, look into bet365 - they have one of the best live betting menus...

stay away from bonuses and bonus books and the rest of that nonsense...that shit is designed to lure in brokedikks and you're not one of them

gl!

What are you taking about? I got 2 payouts from 5d just last week and requested one yesterday as well ready to pickup tomorrow

[raydog]

HRWager. Great customer service. Pays out promptly. Super great bonuses. $500 max on bets which is fine for me so that's no issue. I'm sure if U wanted more, George would hook U up.

hrwager is not a sportsbook... its a bookie pph run out of c.r. ... its the same clone as the local joe at the golf course uses... its just like betislands was and your money will never be safe at a place like this... dont deposit into a book that doesnt have a line manager... fukksakes people, you fall in love with these shit shops that offer unreal bonuses... if you decide to do this, deposit the minimum and go from there...withdraw as fast as possible...never leave much in there...

if you want to put money in a u.s book that 1. wont kick you out for winning... 2. wont limit you.. 3. has the highest limits and highest payouts of anyone in c.r. and is the most professional, you will deposit in Bookmaker/Cris

sportinteractions has kicked me a handful of times after winning a few 200buck plays in one day... i think they have booted guys like durito and mf about 25times each before they go tired of messing with them... if they have even the slightest idea that you will bet some sharp plays, you are gone

you really dont have a reason to leave Pinny though... unless you just want to bet more money... and if thats the case, there really are no other books to look at than the Cris family ... heritage/justbet/greek/youwager etc. all will limit you if you win enough... for most, this isnt an issue though

i will say, if you bet cbb, bol is a place to have some money too... they have no fukking idea how to model lines and always open early and overnighters are easy pickings... for a few hundred bucks anyways... after greek/bm opens lines, bol will chase them like a puppy dog, but so do the others.

[Russian Rocket]

What are you taking about? I got 2 payouts from 5d just last week and requested one yesterday as well ready to pickup tomorrow

what last week's payouts has to do with anything here? go read the msg on their site about payouts over the holiday season

[Russian Rocket]

hrwager is not a sportsbook... its a bookie pph run out of c.r. ... its the same clone as the local joe at the golf course uses... its just like betislands was and your money will never be safe at a place like this... dont deposit into a book that doesnt have a line manager... fukksakes people, you fall in love with these shit shops that offer unreal bonuses... if you decide to do this, deposit the minimum and go from there...withdraw as fast as possible...never leave much in there...

if you want to put money in a u.s book that 1. wont kick you out for winning... 2. wont limit you.. 3. has the highest limits and highest payouts of anyone in c.r. and is the most professional, you will deposit in Bookmaker/Cris

sportinteractions has kicked me a handful of times after winning a few 200buck plays in one day... i think they have booted guys like durito and mf about 25times each before they go tired of messing with them... if they have even the slightest idea that you will bet some sharp plays, you are gone

you really dont have a reason to leave Pinny though... unless you just want to bet more money... and if thats the case, there really are no other books to look at than the Cris family ... heritage/justbet/greek/youwager etc. all will limit you if you win enough... for most, this isnt an issue though

i will say, if you bet cbb, bol is a place to have some money too... they have no fukking idea how to model lines and always open early and overnighters are easy pickings... for a few hundred bucks anyways... after greek/bm opens lines, bol will chase them like a puppy dog, but so do the others.

I totally agree with rayer here

D2D you're from CAN, pal...you have many options to work with...only go through A+ shops

[Dollars2Donuts]

No Rocket, it isn't because of the delay's in payouts right now.....that is only for cheques. I processed a payout from them this morning. It has to do with a few other things.....I had what I thought was a serious issue and they never even looked into it. I have wagered over a million dollars at 5dimes in the last 2 years and they didn't seem to care at all.

It is obvious that 5dimes doesn't need my business.....even though I have sang their praises here for 2 years....oh well, their choice.

NoCoin, I have never even heard of SIA....you have to realize that while I am educated in most aspect of life and sports.....I have never changed books and never read any of the forums on the different books. That is why I am asking for help.

I have to admit....I am intrigued by the big bonuses as long as the lines are tight. If I can deposit $1000 and have $3000 in my account and only require a rollover of $45k wagered, I can easily do that in 45 days. That my friends, is tempting to me...of course it is all line dependent.

I signed up at bet365 a coupe of years ago because they had some limited time offer....I think I threw $200 in and got $600....I bet it all on one game that night and lost....never went back. Today I hit their customer chat up and they told me that my account had been deleted for inactivity and that if I can back I would be considered a new customer.....so I may look at them.

I guess the thing is.....I don't like making mistakes and I don't want to waste a bunch of time on sites that are useless.....as I said a bonus would be awesome as long as the lines are not compromised, and they probably wouldn't be....because if I am using 4 books I will be line shopping and just using the worst lined-book, the least.

Decisions, decisions.....

I would also love to use a book that I can fund and withdraw right through Paypal or Skrill....This HRwager place wants me to deposit through a mo.ney..gr.am....I don't want to have to go to some drug store to send a g-note to somebody I don't know....

[raydog]

bet 365 is good for live action, but they also dont like winners... they are fast to limit game wagers and even faster if you run them over in live action... if you are purely recreational, betting 50-200 ish a game, you might can hang on there for a while before they review your acct.

you though about the exchanges at all?

[MickeyMan]

D2D have you looked into using Inst a D ebit for deposit/withdrawal? I have used it for years, never a problem, very fast and fees are $2 for a withdrawal. Can't remember deposit maybe $1.

[Dollars2Donuts]

bet 365 is good for live action, but they also dont like winners... they are fast to limit game wagers and even faster if you run them over in live action... if you are purely recreational, betting 50-200 ish a game, you might can hang on there for a while before they review your acct.

you though about the exchanges at all?

You mean the exchange rates? It sounds like bet365 won't be my book then.....bet sizes average around $200 but I like to go higher than that for bigger plays. I like that I never run into maximums at Pinny, but 5dimes $500 max sometimes drives me nuts.

D2D have you looked into using Inst a D ebit for deposit/withdrawal? I have used it for years, never a problem, very fast and fees are $2 for a withdrawal. Can't remember deposit maybe $1.

Do all books take it though? I can look into it....not sure why there are so many different e-wallets out there...you would think one of the big guys would be buying all of the little guys up.

[Dollars2Donuts]

Hey Rocket.....how did you place that $2k wager on the Habs tonight? I have a $500 maximum at 5dimes.....that just came to me. Did you make a special arrangement or something? If so, maybe I would be interested in staying there.

[MickeyMan]

Do all books take it though? I can look into it....not sure why there are so many different e-wallets out there...you would think one of the big guys would be buying all of the little guys up.

Ive used it for pinny, 5dimes, partybets and poker sites. I'm pretty sure SIA doesn't have it as an option.

The one downside is its a max deposit of $2500/week to start with so can take a couple weeks to get fully funded but once it's in there no problems whatsoever.

[The Giant]

You mean the exchange rates? It sounds like bet365 won't be my book then.....bet sizes average around $200 but I like to go higher than that for bigger plays. I like that I never run into maximums at Pinny, but 5dimes $500 max sometimes drives me nuts.

Ray wasn't suggesting anything about exchange rates. He was talking about something like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betting_exchange

In short, it's a nice way to gamble for large amounts of money at extremely reduced juice.

Somewhere like Betfair.com might be a good place to read up on it more. They are an exchange.

As for the e-wallets, I'm not too diverse in Canadian methods, but I know PayPal isn't an option. They are very anti-gambling.

[Easy-Rider 66]

Check out DSI. Solid out.

[Dollars2Donuts]

Ray wasn't suggesting anything about exchange rates. He was talking about something like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betting_exchange

In short, it's a nice way to gamble for large amounts of money at extremely reduced juice.

Somewhere like Betfair.com might be a good place to read up on it more. They are an exchange.

As for the e-wallets, I'm not too diverse in Canadian methods, but I know PayPal isn't an option. They are very anti-gambling.

Makes a ton of sense....I had no idea Betfair worked like that.

Thanks for the info.....I will give it some thought.

[BigDeem5]

d2D, use heritage

Best book -108 not great bonuses but great book

HrWager great

YouWager is okay

[sneakerhead]

I would look into bet fair

[Sam Odom]

DSI

http://www.betdsi.eu/

Part of the CRIS family

Nice Bonus: "HOLIDAY14"

Call them and workout a deposit method

Also...

Heritage

http://www.heritagesports.eu/

[Russian Rocket]

Ohh yeah...Deemer is right- Heritage is another A+ book...Dollars you might actually like this one a lot...they have a quarterly cashback bonus program...win or lose you get a cashback.
They also let you sell/buy as many pts as you like in baseball and football. The only thing is their hockey lines blow.

[boomer62]

OK, so since I closed down my Bodog account two years ago I have used 5Dimes and Pinny exclusively. I have enjoyed both for what they are, but have had some issues with 5dimes which I won't go into. I am now looking to change things up. I called this am to do my first withdrawal from 5dimes and will vacate as quickly as possible.

What I am looking for is two new online books to use in conjunction with Pinny. I want betting line shopping options and I want to spread my funds out a little more....I may eventually go to four books. I saw that there was a bonus at the Greek of 100% PLUS a bonus of 50% if you buy some coupon from the store here at SBR. Can anyone tell me about Greek? Decent lines? Payouts? I am assuming that if I deposit $500 (the max for the bonus) that they will match $500 and because of SBR I will get another $250? Or is it another 50% of the total of $1000 (for $500).

Anyone have other recommendations for books that have great bonuses but still have good lines and easy payouts? I don't mind high rollovers, the fact is that the volume I bet I don't have an issue rolling over any bonus in no time.

If you could just name a book or two and the reasons that you love that book I would really appreciate it. Frankly, I cannot really trust any of these rating systems....I want to feel safe, get decent customer service and not have to worry about my funds.

Thanks in advance,

D2D

You are in NY right? Find a local.....don't have to worry about all the bullshit!

[lupe]

HRWager. Great customer service. Pays out promptly. Super great bonuses. $500 max on bets which is fine for me so that's no issue. I'm sure if U wanted more, George would hook U up.

n:

if you win at ll, your limits will go to $250, they will cut off props, cut off teasers, and limit some sports (like mma) to $100.

[jjgold]

Greek is excellent and 100x more reputable than HRWAGER

HRWAGER for a small player..Dollar Bill you have tons of options not being from USA so take advantage of it

Matchbook if your actually serious about winning is a must

[The Giant]

Matchbook left the Canadian market over the summer, JJ.

[Sam Odom]

Matchbook if your actually serious about winning is a must

Speaking of Matchy

How is Nicky doing ?

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

HRWager. Great customer service. Pays out promptly. Super great bonuses. $500 max on bets which is fine for me so that's no issue. I'm sure if U wanted more, George would hook U up.

This !!!!!

Hrwager is great they have a 200% roller over deal right now as well high rollover but still.