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  • STAX
    SBR MVP
    • 11-01-13
    • 3718

    #36
    Carolina will win the game, cover is tough to tell... Panthers ML for me or nothing
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    • 2daBank
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-26-09
      • 88966

      #37
      Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
      Cards should have went with Logan Thomas a few weeks ago....Lindley zero chance if Stanton is out the whole season...Logan Thomas much more natural ability even though he is probably not "ready" I would have rolled the dice and prayed for the best
      logan thomas and ability dont belong in the same sentence. not when it comes to the qb position anyway. te or something maybe..not sure why anyone would think otherwise but the fact cards playing lindley in front of him pretty much says everything about thomas's "ability"...
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      • Eddy Munny
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 08-13-13
        • 15768

        #38
        Yeah, Logan Thomas was a massive liability even at the collegiate level, a turnover waiting to happen. There's no reason to believe the light suddenly came on and he's ready to solve NFL defenses if he couldn't ever crack an ACC defense.
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        • 2daBank
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 01-26-09
          • 88966

          #39
          Originally posted by Eddy Munny
          Yeah, Logan Thomas was a massive liability even at the collegiate level, a turnover waiting to happen. There's no reason to believe the light suddenly came on and he's ready to solve NFL defenses if he couldn't ever crack an ACC defense.
          i was freaking shocked he got drafted after watching him at vatech.. dude cant hit the broad side of a barn let alone a moving wr..simple case of coaches falling in love with measurements, seeing the prototypical size/strength and thinking they can coach him up into something they wish he was but will never be..
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          • Snowball
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 11-15-09
            • 30057

            #40
            I am very confident Carolina wins this game.
            It's in their house. Arizona struggles on offense are too much to overcome, especially
            in a loud envirnoment against a defense that has proven it can stifle much more cohesive
            offenses such as Atlanta. It doesn't matter if Stanton or Lindley is playing. Neither is capable
            of the performance you need to win a playoff game, and Arizona doesn't have a running game
            capable of grinding the clock either. Their top RBs only avg. 3.3 per carry. Yes Arizona has a
            strong defense, but it is overrated. They are 5th in pts allowed, but this is likely due to schedule.
            Why ? Because they are 24th in yards per game. Think about that. 24th. They are a mid-range
            12th on 3rd down conversions allowed. Solid 5th on TO ratio (+8).
            Panters also have a positive (+3) TO ratio. They have a multi running threat with Jonathan
            Stewart (4.6 ypc) and DeAngelo Williams (3.5), both better than the Cardinal backs.
            Cam Newton was hampered by rib injuries earlier in the season and this had a causative
            effect on the weak part of their season, if you look at it. Derek Anderson started 2 games and
            played in 6. Cam wasn't anywhere near 100%, but he looks good now. Did you see him rush
            for the TD yesterday where he plowed through the Atlanta DL like a RB ? Quite impressive.
            He's playing without fear, perhaps the car accident has brought out something in him.
            I think you can look at the last 4 games with Carolina (4-0) and consider that momentum
            and swagger going into a home playoff game. Ron Rivera is a good coach.
            There is no reason to suspect Carolina will not win this game and advance.
            I will be taking them ML, -3, -6, and -10+. Arizona is no threat in this condition.
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            • Fidel_CashFlow
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 12-03-12
              • 53970

              #41
              jumped on the -4.5 before it went up
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              • Big Bear
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 11-01-11
                • 43253

                #42
                I would feel comfortable with Panthers all the way up to -7
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                • Big Bear
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 11-01-11
                  • 43253

                  #43
                  huge revenge game from back in 2007
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                  • MoneyLineDawg
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 01-01-09
                    • 13253

                    #44
                    Originally posted by 2daBank
                    logan thomas and ability dont belong in the same sentence. not when it comes to the qb position anyway. te or something maybe..not sure why anyone would think otherwise but the fact cards playing lindley in front of him pretty much says everything about thomas's "ability"...
                    Lets be honest...They're both awful choices

                    I could probably find 10 QBs out of football who are better options at this moment

                    But still, Lindley is God-awful....He has the talent of a game manager and can't even manage the game....Atleast with Logan Thomas he might complete a bomb or 2 down the field to Arizona's talented WRs....even if he makes a few more bad decisions, I feel like he is a better option just based off of athleticism alone. He has the ability to make a few big plays no matter how poor the rest of his game is....Lindley is just as bad with zero attributes

                    Hopefully Stanton can play for their sake
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                    • new era
                      SBR MVP
                      • 07-28-13
                      • 1470

                      #45
                      Playing all the underdogs next week.
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                      • RavensFan2k3
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 08-18-12
                        • 17378

                        #46
                        Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                        Cards should have went with Logan Thomas a few weeks ago....Lindley zero chance if Stanton is out the whole season...Logan Thomas much more natural ability even though he is probably not "ready" I would have rolled the dice and prayed for the best
                        Lol what? Logan Thomas is absolute garbage
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                        • MoneyLineDawg
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-01-09
                          • 13253

                          #47
                          Read above....Lindley is proven pure garbage...Confirmed zero chance to win with him
                          Logan Thomas offers the same awfulness with a big arm so maybe they could make a few big plays down field with Fitzgerald, Brown, and Floyd

                          Not a Logan Thomas fan at all But given the choice between him and Lindley I would have went for Thomas

                          Really should have signed someone off the couch like Vince Young (lol)
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                          • pavyracer
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 04-12-07
                            • 82839

                            #48
                            LT should be on the Cardinals at +4. He loved them in his imaginary -3.5 line he made up..lol
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                            • boomer62
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-10-11
                              • 1500

                              #49
                              Originally posted by LT Profits
                              Amazing how perception can sway playoff lines in just a few weeks. Dallas -7 over Detroit in other game.
                              Arizona should be favored -2 but they have NO QB thus Carolina -4/4.5. Carolina is pretty awful and even with Lindley at QB Arizona D can keep it close.
                              As for Dallas, line should be 5(dead#) and boys are a very big public team and perception of being on a roll so
                              -7 the right number. Tough game to bet IMO , but would lean to Detroit.
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                              • jt315
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 11-12-11
                                • 21987

                                #50
                                This game is similar to Eagles/Giants yesterday.
                                Team with a losing record on a winning streak beating
                                teams with losing records against a team with a winning record on a losing streak against much tougher competition.
                                Give me Arizona . Public sees Carolina as the hot team against fading Arizona . I see a close of 3 on this game.
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                                • Snowball
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 11-15-09
                                  • 30057

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by Snowball
                                  I am very confident Carolina wins this game.
                                  It's in their house. Arizona struggles on offense are too much to overcome, especially
                                  in a loud envirnoment against a defense that has proven it can stifle much more cohesive
                                  offenses such as Atlanta. It doesn't matter if Stanton or Lindley is playing. Neither is capable
                                  of the performance you need to win a playoff game, and Arizona doesn't have a running game
                                  capable of grinding the clock either. Their top RBs only avg. 3.3 per carry. Yes Arizona has a
                                  strong defense, but it is overrated. They are 5th in pts allowed, but this is likely due to schedule.
                                  Why ? Because they are 24th in yards per game. Think about that. 24th. They are a mid-range
                                  12th on 3rd down conversions allowed. Solid 5th on TO ratio (+8).
                                  Panters also have a positive (+3) TO ratio. They have a multi running threat with Jonathan
                                  Stewart (4.6 ypc) and DeAngelo Williams (3.5), both better than the Cardinal backs.
                                  Cam Newton was hampered by rib injuries earlier in the season and this had a causative
                                  effect on the weak part of their season, if you look at it. Derek Anderson started 2 games and
                                  played in 6. Cam wasn't anywhere near 100%, but he looks good now. Did you see him rush
                                  for the TD yesterday where he plowed through the Atlanta DL like a RB ? Quite impressive.
                                  He's playing without fear, perhaps the car accident has brought out something in him.
                                  I think you can look at the last 4 games with Carolina (4-0) and consider that momentum
                                  and swagger going into a home playoff game. Ron Rivera is a good coach.
                                  There is no reason to suspect Carolina will not win this game and advance.
                                  I will be taking them ML, -3, -6, and -10+. Arizona is no threat in this condition.
                                  will b stackin chips on Panthiz all week long.
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                                  • a4u2fear
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 01-29-10
                                    • 8147

                                    #52
                                    Smart bettor once said to just be ML in playoffs
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                                    • etothep
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-14-07
                                      • 1299

                                      #53
                                      Almost assuredly will be a no-play for me, but I can say this with certainty: I will not be putting my money in the hands of Ryan Lindley
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                                      • beavis13
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 06-18-14
                                        • 2823

                                        #54
                                        Think I'll just take the under
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