So we all agree Johnny football sucks

[stealthyburrito]

That was embarrassing. I wouldn't go as far as humbling cuz I don't johnny bench can be humbled.Poor guy gets the luck of the draw playing in the vaunted afc north where every defense will kick his teeth in.He's a white man's RG3.

[dfish]

Indeed, just one start but not an NFL QB IMO

[NardVa]

Hoyer should have started. Playoffs is on the line and you go with a rookie QB making his 1st start.

[floridagolfer]

Manziel was about as ready to play in the NFL as I am. That was embarrassing to any Browns coach who thought he was an improvement; that should be grounds for immediate dismissal.

[EaglesPhan36]

He doesn't agree, from his presser:

Manziel: I never felt overwhelmed out there ... It was never too difficult #Browns

[JMon]

Hard to tell....I recall P. Manning going 3-11 (TD-INT) in his first four games.

[jjgold]

It was a bad move playing him against a tough Cincinnati defense

[TankHankerous]

manziel should play arena or xfl if it comes back

[stealthyburrito]

That quote from the presser is classic.

i like his new nickname: Johnny shutout.

[opie1988]

Hard to tell....I recall P. Manning going 3-11 (TD-INT) in his first four games.

You fail to realize we are blessed with a plethora of NFL GM quality minds posting here on SBR.

The thread starter is a 5'2 107 lb Mexican who is also an expert on dissecting NFL QB talent extremely quickly.

Realizing makes this a humbling place to post. #eliteforum

[44 Mag]

Manziel was about as ready to play in the NFL as I am. That was embarrassing to any Browns coach who thought he was an improvement; that should be grounds for immediate dismissal.

That's why they are the Cleveland Browns.

[EaglesPhan36]

If you want to watch a rookie who has been prepped right, watch Teddy Bridgewater. Manziel would have been better staying in college and actually developing some QB characteristics .... footwork being #1 from the looks of things that he is lacking.

[No coincidences]

No scrambling QB has ever succeeded in the NFL long term. Ever. Steve Young is the closest thing and he was a concussion away from being a vegetable.

Why anyone thought that this midget would be able to break the mold is beyond me.

[EaglesPhan36]

What's funny is the few plays I decided to watch of him, Marvin Lewis' description seemed pretty accurate. He looked about as small as Doug Flutie. When your ego gets ass raped, must make you lose another 2-3 inches.

[stealthyburrito]

I get that the nfl is a what have you done for me lately league, but without hoyer the Browns aren't 7-6 and fighting for their season today. So they implant a rookie who was a playmaker in college. Rumblings say the locker room wanted the change but at what point does a coach take control of the men he leads. Obviously hoyers play ain't ideal, but it sure as Fukk wasn't that.

[Sacamano]

Hoyer should have started. Playoffs is on the line and you go with a rookie QB making his 1st start.

Terrible call by the Browns

[Rich Boy]

Johnny shutout lol

[The Giant]

No scrambling QB has ever succeeded in the NFL long term. Ever. Steve Young is the closest thing and he was a concussion away from being a vegetable.

Why anyone thought that this midget would be able to break the mold is beyond me.

Fran Tarkenton.

Randall Cunningham.

Michael Vick.

[EaglesPhan36]

Cleveland's version of Where's Waldo

[seaborneq]

Manziel was about as ready to play in the NFL as I am. That was embarrassing to any Browns coach who thought he was an improvement; that should be grounds for immediate dismissal.

Spot on. Fooled the books with that one. Browns were actually favored in the game because of the midget

[zizoudane10]

Does he?
I have no idea of football really....
All I know is: guy is an ugly sob.

[Snowball]

he throws a nice spiral but everything else is bad.

[TwoWays]

How come i haven't seen the snickers commercial today ?

[zizoudane10]

How come i haven't seen the snickers commercial today ?

Snickers? I like Snickers.

[TwoWays]

Snickers? I like Snickers.

Me too zouzer. But I think the company may try to extricate themselves from manziel after today

[The Giant]

Stealthy only started this thread due to his racist views against the white man.

[zizoudane10]

Me too zouzer. But I think the company may try to extricate themselves from manziel after today

I would even eat Snickers if OJ Simpson was the face of it

[stealthyburrito]

I dislike whites attempting to mimic black culture.

[TwoWays]

Wiggers! Eminem is an exception though right, burrittos?

[homie1975]

yea because judging a rookie QB off a few starts is always smart

[zizoudane10]

I dislike whites attempting to mimic black culture.

I dislike cats.
A lot.
Except one cat that lives next door and is cool.
Penetrate the other ones.
Assholes.

And I dislike raisins

[TwoWays]

yea because judging a rookie QB off a few starts is always smart

Just lots of backlash from hype. He has a lot of work to do though...I mean lots. Scrambling doesn't work like in college. Blind throws off the back foot does not work in nfl. Late recognition of wideouts leads to picks. Etc

[No coincidences]

Fran Tarkenton.

Randall Cunningham.

Michael Vick.

Fran Tarkenton played when there were 200-pound linebackers.

Cunningham scrambled. He didn't run. Only had 775 rushes in 161 games.

We've seen what's happened to Vick, and he's a total athletic freak (despite only being 6-0). You can succeed for short periods of time, before you get beat down and relegated to the bench.

[stealthyburrito]

Comparing eminem and Manuel is laughable but still, don't like him either.

[44 Mag]

No scrambling QB has ever succeeded in the NFL long term. Ever. Steve Young is the closest thing and he was a concussion away from being a vegetable.

Why anyone thought that this midget would be able to break the mold is beyond me.