Originally posted by Smoke
Parlay for the weekend
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BostongamblerBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 02-01-08
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#36Smoke good call on Sac game last night. I tried to send u 50 points but it wouldn't let me.Comment -
UrbanwildlifeSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-06-11
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#37Take it to the pay window today Big Bear!
(Green for money)
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SmokeSBR Aristocracy
- 10-09-09
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#38No problem boo. Yea u gotta be a pro to send more than two pointsOriginally posted by BostongamblerSmoke good call on Sac game last night. I tried to send u 50 points but it wouldn't let me.Comment -
BostongamblerBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 02-01-08
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Big BearSBR Aristocracy- 11-01-11
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#40Fake BuckeyeOriginally posted by PaperTrail07LOL not going anywhere.....Ohio State will be exposed tonight....worse on both sides of the ball HUGE bucks fan...but not an idiot
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Big BearSBR Aristocracy- 11-01-11
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#41confidence is the #1 key in this business.Originally posted by Big BearHaters go fukk yourself
To all my crew . Tail this and get yo money right.
Arizona State ML over Notre Shame
TCU ML over Kansas State
Alabama ML over LSU
Ohio State ML over Michigan State
Eagles ML over Panthers
I have extreme confidence in this Parlay. Lets cash this ticket
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Big BearSBR Aristocracy- 11-01-11
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#42thinking bout putting a lil bit on Panthers +6.5 in hopes for a nice middleComment -
Bet10HeinekensSBR Posting Legend
- 01-10-13
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#4376297602-1 11/3/2014 4:39PM Parlay Football - 473 Indianapolis Colts -165 for Game
Basketball - 508 Dallas Mavericks -555 for Game
Basketball - 512 Los Angeles Clippers -520 for Game
Soccer - 143543 Real Madrid -400 for Game
Football - 103 Toledo -530 for Game
Basketball - 516 San Antonio Spurs -395 for Game
Basketball - 702 Houston Rockets -280 for Game
Football - 111 Clemson -1250 for Game
Football - 113 Memphis -330 for Game
Football - 115 Utah State -310 for Game
Football - 117 Penn State -245 for Game
Football - 129 Wisconsin -850 for Game
Football - 161 Alabama -285 for Game
Football - 186 Colorado State -1100 for Game
Football - 193 Oregon -355 for GameComment -
Bet10HeinekensSBR Posting Legend
- 01-10-13
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#44Ticket#:8382353
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PARLAY (6 TEAMS)
[117] PENN STATE -260
[121] LOUISIANA TECH -180
[133] DUKE -190
[137] LOUISVILLE -160
[161] ALABAMA -270
[193] OREGON -335Comment -
UrbanwildlifeSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-06-11
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#45Excellent work my friends, and take it to the pay window tomorrow!
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Big BearSBR Aristocracy- 11-01-11
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#46nice love it when the bookies take a beatingComment -
STAXSBR MVP
- 11-01-13
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#47Good call on the parlay Bear, you def have a talent for picking winners... I would put something on Panthers +6.5 as well. What was the odds on this parlay hitting? Im guessing 12 to 1ish? So $100 pays $1200... I'd put $300 on Panthers +6.5, promise your self a few hundo regardless, and have a nice chance to middle and win it all!!!Originally posted by Big Bearthinking bout putting a lil bit on Panthers +6.5 in hopes for a nice middle
Might even be a good idea to buy a point and take Panthers +7.5... I think in a case of trying to middle it is worth it to buy a point here, especially going from 6.5 to 7.5Comment -
Big BearSBR Aristocracy- 11-01-11
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#48$100 to win $1100
i gotta hedge atleast something bc i had a really awful week last week and need to get my money rightComment -
Dollars2DonutsSBR Hall of Famer
- 02-07-13
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#49Bear...hedging is stupid....you know this....it costs you tons of juice. Make your parlays with less teams.Originally posted by Big Bear$100 to win $1100
i gotta hedge atleast something bc i had a really awful week last week and need to get my money rightComment -
STAXSBR MVP
- 11-01-13
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#50Proof why hedging is -EV, and not middling is -EV
You can do any of the following options. For the sake of easy math, we are going to say Philly wins the game 75% of the time (3 out of 4). Of those Philly wins, we are saying Philly will win by 7 or less 50% of the time (1 out of 2). (3/4) * (1/2) = (3/8) or 37.5% of the time Philly wins by 7 or less points (so we win both our bets and MIDDLE IT!!).
Philly wins the game 75% of the time (3/4)
Carolina wins the game 25% of the time (1/4)
Philly wins the game by 7 or less 37.5% of the time (3/8)
Philly wins the game by 8 or more 37.5% of the time (3/8)
1. Do nothing. 3/4 of the time Philly wins and we are ahead (+$1100). 1/4 of the time Carolina wins and we are down (-$100).
If Philly wins (75% of the time): (3/4) * $1100 = ($825.00)
If Carolina wins (25% of the time): (1/4) * (-$100) = (-$25.00)
Add the two totals, and our expected value here is (+$800.00)
2. Hedge "x" amount on Carolina ML (+250). We will hedge for equal profit no matter which team wins. That amount would be $350 ($350 to win $875). We will profit $775 if Carolina wins ($875 of the hedge bet minus the $100 parlay). We will profit $750 if Philly wins. Our expected value is calculated as following based on us capping the game as 3/4 Philly wins and 1/4 Carolina wins:
If Carolina wins (25% of the time) : (1/4) * $775 = ($193.75)
If Philly wins (75% of the time) : (3/4) * $750 = ($562.50).
Add the two totals, and our expected value here is (+$756.25)
3. Attempt a middle by betting Carolina +7.5 (-135). We will attempt to middle for equal profit if we only win one of the bets. That amount would be $675 ($675 to win $500). We profit $400 if Carolina wins the game outright ($500 minus $100 parlay). We profit $425 if Philly wins the game by 8 or more ($1100 minus $675). We profit $1600 if Philly wins the game by 7 pts or less.
EV calculation:
If Carolina wins (25% of the time): ($400) * (1/4) = (+$100.00)
If Philly wins by 8 or more (37.5% of the time) = ($425) * (3/8) = (+$159.38)
If Philly wins by 7 or less (37.5% of the time) = ($1600) * (3/8) = (+$600.00)
Add the 3 totals, and our expected value is (+$859.38)
Obviously adjusting your handicap of the percantages of the time each teams wins and by how much will effect your expected values. So that plays into deciding whether or not to middle as well.
If you truly handicap the game the way I do, then middling is more +EV than leaving it alone. And obviously hedging is always -EV.Comment -
SpedizzoSBR MVP
- 12-16-11
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#51Bear hedge
You killed it last night
Mark Sanchez still a question mark
You never know when Cam will have a good gameComment -
Sledge187SBR MVP
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#52Great job! Nice to see someone winning.Comment -
slo moSBR Sharp
- 09-03-14
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#53I think you will have no problem with Carolina Monday night. I highly doubt if Cam gets embarrassed twice in the prime time slot. Mark Sanchez will fold under the lights. Good luckComment -
PaperTrail07SBR Posting Legend
- 08-29-08
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#54Sharp As Razor Bear.....PROPSOriginally posted by Big BearHaters go fukk yourself
To all my crew . Tail this and get yo money right.
Arizona State ML over Notre Shame
TCU ML over Kansas State
Alabama ML over LSU
Ohio State ML over Michigan State
Eagles ML over Panthers
I have extreme confidence in this Parlay. Lets cash this ticket
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UrbanwildlifeSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-06-11
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#55Big Bear is .......
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fried cheeseSBR MVP
- 09-17-13
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#56unless you are saying the carolina +7.5 is +ev by itself then your percentages are wrong. if you assume the bet carolina +7 hits half the time on average then your percentages should be:Originally posted by STAXProof why hedging is -EV, and not middling is -EV
You can do any of the following options. For the sake of easy math, we are going to say Philly wins the game 75% of the time (3 out of 4). Of those Philly wins, we are saying Philly will win by 7 or less 50% of the time (1 out of 2). (3/4) * (1/2) = (3/8) or 37.5% of the time Philly wins by 7 or less points (so we win both our bets and MIDDLE IT!!).
Philly wins the game 75% of the time (3/4)
Carolina wins the game 25% of the time (1/4)
Philly wins the game by 7 or less 37.5% of the time (3/8)
Philly wins the game by 8 or more 37.5% of the time (3/8)
1. Do nothing. 3/4 of the time Philly wins and we are ahead (+$1100). 1/4 of the time Carolina wins and we are down (-$100).
If Philly wins (75% of the time): (3/4) * $1100 = ($825.00)
If Carolina wins (25% of the time): (1/4) * (-$100) = (-$25.00)
Add the two totals, and our expected value here is (+$800.00)
2. Hedge "x" amount on Carolina ML (+250). We will hedge for equal profit no matter which team wins. That amount would be $350 ($350 to win $875). We will profit $775 if Carolina wins ($875 of the hedge bet minus the $100 parlay). We will profit $750 if Philly wins. Our expected value is calculated as following based on us capping the game as 3/4 Philly wins and 1/4 Carolina wins:
If Carolina wins (25% of the time) : (1/4) * $775 = ($193.75)
If Philly wins (75% of the time) : (3/4) * $750 = ($562.50).
Add the two totals, and our expected value here is (+$756.25)
3. Attempt a middle by betting Carolina +7.5 (-135). We will attempt to middle for equal profit if we only win one of the bets. That amount would be $675 ($675 to win $500). We profit $400 if Carolina wins the game outright ($500 minus $100 parlay). We profit $425 if Philly wins the game by 8 or more ($1100 minus $675). We profit $1600 if Philly wins the game by 7 pts or less.
EV calculation:
If Carolina wins (25% of the time): ($400) * (1/4) = (+$100.00)
If Philly wins by 8 or more (37.5% of the time) = ($425) * (3/8) = (+$159.38)
If Philly wins by 7 or less (37.5% of the time) = ($1600) * (3/8) = (+$600.00)
Add the 3 totals, and our expected value is (+$859.38)
Obviously adjusting your handicap of the percantages of the time each teams wins and by how much will effect your expected values. So that plays into deciding whether or not to middle as well.
If you truly handicap the game the way I do, then middling is more +EV than leaving it alone. And obviously hedging is always -EV.
carolina wins 1/4
philly wins 7 or less 1/4
philly wins 7 or more 1/2
betting is only +ev if you think the odds they give are wrongComment -
Big BearSBR Aristocracy- 11-01-11
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#57Originally posted by boomer62First off, I wish you luck, but you said your back is against the wall. This is your wager for the weekend that you were going undefeated on??? You pick 4 college games that can go either way on and you think you they all go your way and will cash this?? Second it is a dumb bet and better to bet straight then hit a 5 team parlay that you of all people have no luck. I would reconsider!!L
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boomer62SBR MVP
- 09-10-11
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#58So,you picked 3 ML favorites and a live dog(I had Ohio State and the over,btw. ) with your luck Carolina may win outright. And betting 5 team parlays are dumb, but every now and then one comes thru. And for the record, I like Carolina plus 7 here.Comment -
Big BearSBR Aristocracy- 11-01-11
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#59point is you were heckling me.
point is not to make this shit harder than it needs to be.
so what i didn't put any long shots in the parlay. Winning is all that matters.
take the low hanging fruit when the bookies offer it.Comment -
boomer62SBR MVP
- 09-10-11
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#60Actually wasn't heckling you at all. You come on here and post some some dumb things and you bring attention to yourself. I just stated the obvious that your capping sucks. I wish you the best though and nothing personal.Comment -
UrbanwildlifeSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-06-11
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#61Originally posted by UrbanwildlifeBig Bear is .......

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pacoSBR Aristocracy
- 05-07-09
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#62nice winnerOriginally posted by Big BearHaters go fukk yourself
To all my crew . Tail this and get yo money right.
Arizona State ML over Notre Shame
TCU ML over Kansas State
Alabama ML over LSU
Ohio State ML over Michigan State
Eagles ML over Panthers
I have extreme confidence in this Parlay. Lets cash this ticket
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SmokeSBR Aristocracy
- 10-09-09
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#63
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Big BearSBR Aristocracy- 11-01-11
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#64I got one for this coming weekend too
$146 to win $1059
Ohio State -10 (-150) over Minnesota
FSU ML -128 over Miami
Auburn +3.5 (-150) vs Georgia
Colts ML (-150) over Patriots
will add write-ups later in the week. Got a pretty busy day today.Comment -
boomer62SBR MVP
- 09-10-11
- 1500
#65please don't (146?)Originally posted by big beari got one for this coming weekend too
$146 to win $1059
ohio state -10 (-150) over minnesota
fsu ml -128 over miami
auburn +3.5 (-150) vs georgia
colts ml (-150) over patriots
will add write-ups later in the week. Got a pretty busy day today.Comment -
BigdaddyQHSBR Posting Legend
- 07-13-09
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#66The Florida State play is just plain dumb. Why lay 128 when you can lay 110 and give one point, which is absolutely worthless in College Football. It will not matter because you will lose the Colts game.Originally posted by Big BearI got one for this coming weekend too
$146 to win $1059
Ohio State -10 (-150) over Minnesota
FSU ML -128 over Miami
Auburn +3.5 (-150) vs Georgia
Colts ML (-150) over Patriots
will add write-ups later in the week. Got a pretty busy day today.
On another topic, you do NOT have a "crew" and I never want to see you using that term again. You are NOT Italian, and NOT involved with any Mob. If you want to meet a real "Crew", that can be arranged. Until then, use a different term boy. We Italians feel insulted when some dumb arse loser like yourself thinks he has a "crew". Use a term that you hicks from South Carolina like.Comment -
pavyracerSBR Aristocracy
- 04-12-07
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#67Nice hit Big Bear. You are getting better. How is your cousin lemart5?Originally posted by Big BearHaters go fukk yourself
To all my crew . Tail this and get yo money right.
Arizona State ML over Notre Shame
TCU ML over Kansas State
Alabama ML over LSU
Ohio State ML over Michigan State
Eagles ML over Panthers
I have extreme confidence in this Parlay. Lets cash this ticket
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Killer_DemoSBR Hall of Famer
- 06-15-08
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#68I didnt know USC shower-boy's had a "crew"Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
If you want to meet a real "Crew", that can be arranged.
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BigdaddyQHSBR Posting Legend
- 07-13-09
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#69We would love to meet you, you little lover of males. You and your gay team in Fresno will not even go to a bowl game this season. What happened? Did you not service that team this season? Are your STD's flaring up again. That is what people like you are famous for. We will run into you one day, and then you will spread your legs, bend over, and kiss your worthless arse good-bye. That day is coming. There are a lot of people in here who hate your queer guts.Originally posted by Killer_DemoI didnt know USC shower-boy's had a "crew"
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Killer_DemoSBR Hall of Famer
- 06-15-08
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#70shower-boy queerOriginally posted by BigdaddyQHWe would love to meet you, you little lover of males. You and your gay team in Fresno will not even go to a bowl game this season. What happened? Did you not service that team this season? Are your STD's flaring up again. That is what people like you are famous for. We will run into you one day, and then you will spread your legs, bend over, and kiss your worthless arse good-bye. That day is coming. There are a lot of people in here who hate your queer guts.
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