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  • Bostongambler
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 02-01-08
    • 35628

    #36
    Originally posted by Smoke
    Bear nooooooooooooooooooooooo
    Smoke good call on Sac game last night. I tried to send u 50 points but it wouldn't let me.
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    • Urbanwildlife
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 09-06-11
      • 5958

      #37
      Take it to the pay window today Big Bear!
      (Green for money)

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      • Smoke
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 10-09-09
        • 48111

        #38
        Originally posted by Bostongambler
        Smoke good call on Sac game last night. I tried to send u 50 points but it wouldn't let me.
        No problem boo. Yea u gotta be a pro to send more than two points
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        • Bostongambler
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 02-01-08
          • 35628

          #39
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          • Big Bear
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 11-01-11
            • 43253

            #40
            Originally posted by PaperTrail07
            LOL not going anywhere.....Ohio State will be exposed tonight....worse on both sides of the ball HUGE bucks fan...but not an idiot
            Fake Buckeye
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            • Big Bear
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 11-01-11
              • 43253

              #41
              Originally posted by Big Bear
              Haters go fukk yourself

              To all my crew . Tail this and get yo money right.


              Arizona State ML over Notre Shame

              TCU ML over Kansas State

              Alabama ML over LSU

              Ohio State ML over Michigan State

              Eagles ML over Panthers


              I have extreme confidence in this Parlay. Lets cash this ticket
              confidence is the #1 key in this business.
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              • Big Bear
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 11-01-11
                • 43253

                #42
                thinking bout putting a lil bit on Panthers +6.5 in hopes for a nice middle
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                • Bet10Heinekens
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-10-13
                  • 10567

                  #43
                  76297602-1 11/3/2014 4:39PM Parlay Football - 473 Indianapolis Colts -165 for Game
                  Basketball - 508 Dallas Mavericks -555 for Game
                  Basketball - 512 Los Angeles Clippers -520 for Game
                  Soccer - 143543 Real Madrid -400 for Game
                  Football - 103 Toledo -530 for Game
                  Basketball - 516 San Antonio Spurs -395 for Game
                  Basketball - 702 Houston Rockets -280 for Game
                  Football - 111 Clemson -1250 for Game
                  Football - 113 Memphis -330 for Game
                  Football - 115 Utah State -310 for Game
                  Football - 117 Penn State -245 for Game
                  Football - 129 Wisconsin -850 for Game
                  Football - 161 Alabama -285 for Game
                  Football - 186 Colorado State -1100 for Game
                  Football - 193 Oregon -355 for Game
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                  • Bet10Heinekens
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 01-10-13
                    • 10567

                    #44
                    Ticket#:8382353
                    Nov 08 12:06 PM
                    Nov 08 12:05 PM
                    Nov 08 12:35 PM
                    Nov 08 07:22 PM
                    Nov 08 08:13 PM
                    Nov 08 10:00 PM
                    INTERNET / -1Nov 08 09:29 AM
                    CFB
                    CFB
                    CFB
                    CFB
                    CFB
                    CFB
                    PARLAY (6 TEAMS)
                    [117] PENN STATE -260
                    [121] LOUISIANA TECH -180
                    [133] DUKE -190
                    [137] LOUISVILLE -160
                    [161] ALABAMA -270
                    [193] OREGON -335
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                    • Urbanwildlife
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 09-06-11
                      • 5958

                      #45
                      Excellent work my friends, and take it to the pay window tomorrow!

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                      • Big Bear
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 11-01-11
                        • 43253

                        #46
                        nice love it when the bookies take a beating
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                        • STAX
                          SBR MVP
                          • 11-01-13
                          • 3718

                          #47
                          Originally posted by Big Bear
                          thinking bout putting a lil bit on Panthers +6.5 in hopes for a nice middle
                          Good call on the parlay Bear, you def have a talent for picking winners... I would put something on Panthers +6.5 as well. What was the odds on this parlay hitting? Im guessing 12 to 1ish? So $100 pays $1200... I'd put $300 on Panthers +6.5, promise your self a few hundo regardless, and have a nice chance to middle and win it all!!!

                          Might even be a good idea to buy a point and take Panthers +7.5... I think in a case of trying to middle it is worth it to buy a point here, especially going from 6.5 to 7.5
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                          • Big Bear
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 11-01-11
                            • 43253

                            #48
                            $100 to win $1100

                            i gotta hedge atleast something bc i had a really awful week last week and need to get my money right
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                            • Dollars2Donuts
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 02-07-13
                              • 8803

                              #49
                              Originally posted by Big Bear
                              $100 to win $1100

                              i gotta hedge atleast something bc i had a really awful week last week and need to get my money right
                              Bear...hedging is stupid....you know this....it costs you tons of juice. Make your parlays with less teams.
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                              • STAX
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-01-13
                                • 3718

                                #50
                                Proof why hedging is -EV, and not middling is -EV

                                You can do any of the following options. For the sake of easy math, we are going to say Philly wins the game 75% of the time (3 out of 4). Of those Philly wins, we are saying Philly will win by 7 or less 50% of the time (1 out of 2). (3/4) * (1/2) = (3/8) or 37.5% of the time Philly wins by 7 or less points (so we win both our bets and MIDDLE IT!!).

                                Philly wins the game 75% of the time (3/4)
                                Carolina wins the game 25% of the time (1/4)
                                Philly wins the game by 7 or less 37.5% of the time (3/8)
                                Philly wins the game by 8 or more 37.5% of the time (3/8)

                                1. Do nothing. 3/4 of the time Philly wins and we are ahead (+$1100). 1/4 of the time Carolina wins and we are down (-$100).

                                If Philly wins (75% of the time): (3/4) * $1100 = ($825.00)
                                If Carolina wins (25% of the time): (1/4) * (-$100) = (-$25.00)

                                Add the two totals, and our expected value here is (+$800.00)

                                2. Hedge "x" amount on Carolina ML (+250). We will hedge for equal profit no matter which team wins. That amount would be $350 ($350 to win $875). We will profit $775 if Carolina wins ($875 of the hedge bet minus the $100 parlay). We will profit $750 if Philly wins. Our expected value is calculated as following based on us capping the game as 3/4 Philly wins and 1/4 Carolina wins:

                                If Carolina wins (25% of the time) : (1/4) * $775 = ($193.75)
                                If Philly wins (75% of the time) : (3/4) * $750 = ($562.50).

                                Add the two totals, and our expected value here is (+$756.25)

                                3. Attempt a middle by betting Carolina +7.5 (-135). We will attempt to middle for equal profit if we only win one of the bets. That amount would be $675 ($675 to win $500). We profit $400 if Carolina wins the game outright ($500 minus $100 parlay). We profit $425 if Philly wins the game by 8 or more ($1100 minus $675). We profit $1600 if Philly wins the game by 7 pts or less.

                                EV calculation:
                                If Carolina wins (25% of the time): ($400) * (1/4) = (+$100.00)
                                If Philly wins by 8 or more (37.5% of the time) = ($425) * (3/8) = (+$159.38)
                                If Philly wins by 7 or less (37.5% of the time) = ($1600) * (3/8) = (+$600.00)

                                Add the 3 totals, and our expected value is (+$859.38)

                                Obviously adjusting your handicap of the percantages of the time each teams wins and by how much will effect your expected values. So that plays into deciding whether or not to middle as well.

                                If you truly handicap the game the way I do, then middling is more +EV than leaving it alone. And obviously hedging is always -EV.
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                                • Spedizzo
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-16-11
                                  • 1557

                                  #51
                                  Bear hedge

                                  You killed it last night

                                  Mark Sanchez still a question mark

                                  You never know when Cam will have a good game
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                                  • Sledge187
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 04-25-08
                                    • 3722

                                    #52
                                    Great job! Nice to see someone winning.
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                                    • slo mo
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 09-03-14
                                      • 338

                                      #53
                                      I think you will have no problem with Carolina Monday night. I highly doubt if Cam gets embarrassed twice in the prime time slot. Mark Sanchez will fold under the lights. Good luck
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                                      • PaperTrail07
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 08-29-08
                                        • 20470

                                        #54
                                        Sharp As Razor Bear.....PROPS
                                        Originally posted by Big Bear
                                        Haters go fukk yourself

                                        To all my crew . Tail this and get yo money right.


                                        Arizona State ML over Notre Shame

                                        TCU ML over Kansas State

                                        Alabama ML over LSU

                                        Ohio State ML over Michigan State

                                        Eagles ML over Panthers


                                        I have extreme confidence in this Parlay. Lets cash this ticket
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                                        • Urbanwildlife
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 09-06-11
                                          • 5958

                                          #55
                                          Big Bear is .......

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                                          • fried cheese
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-17-13
                                            • 4466

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by STAX
                                            Proof why hedging is -EV, and not middling is -EV

                                            You can do any of the following options. For the sake of easy math, we are going to say Philly wins the game 75% of the time (3 out of 4). Of those Philly wins, we are saying Philly will win by 7 or less 50% of the time (1 out of 2). (3/4) * (1/2) = (3/8) or 37.5% of the time Philly wins by 7 or less points (so we win both our bets and MIDDLE IT!!).

                                            Philly wins the game 75% of the time (3/4)
                                            Carolina wins the game 25% of the time (1/4)
                                            Philly wins the game by 7 or less 37.5% of the time (3/8)
                                            Philly wins the game by 8 or more 37.5% of the time (3/8)

                                            1. Do nothing. 3/4 of the time Philly wins and we are ahead (+$1100). 1/4 of the time Carolina wins and we are down (-$100).

                                            If Philly wins (75% of the time): (3/4) * $1100 = ($825.00)
                                            If Carolina wins (25% of the time): (1/4) * (-$100) = (-$25.00)

                                            Add the two totals, and our expected value here is (+$800.00)

                                            2. Hedge "x" amount on Carolina ML (+250). We will hedge for equal profit no matter which team wins. That amount would be $350 ($350 to win $875). We will profit $775 if Carolina wins ($875 of the hedge bet minus the $100 parlay). We will profit $750 if Philly wins. Our expected value is calculated as following based on us capping the game as 3/4 Philly wins and 1/4 Carolina wins:

                                            If Carolina wins (25% of the time) : (1/4) * $775 = ($193.75)
                                            If Philly wins (75% of the time) : (3/4) * $750 = ($562.50).

                                            Add the two totals, and our expected value here is (+$756.25)

                                            3. Attempt a middle by betting Carolina +7.5 (-135). We will attempt to middle for equal profit if we only win one of the bets. That amount would be $675 ($675 to win $500). We profit $400 if Carolina wins the game outright ($500 minus $100 parlay). We profit $425 if Philly wins the game by 8 or more ($1100 minus $675). We profit $1600 if Philly wins the game by 7 pts or less.

                                            EV calculation:
                                            If Carolina wins (25% of the time): ($400) * (1/4) = (+$100.00)
                                            If Philly wins by 8 or more (37.5% of the time) = ($425) * (3/8) = (+$159.38)
                                            If Philly wins by 7 or less (37.5% of the time) = ($1600) * (3/8) = (+$600.00)

                                            Add the 3 totals, and our expected value is (+$859.38)

                                            Obviously adjusting your handicap of the percantages of the time each teams wins and by how much will effect your expected values. So that plays into deciding whether or not to middle as well.

                                            If you truly handicap the game the way I do, then middling is more +EV than leaving it alone. And obviously hedging is always -EV.
                                            unless you are saying the carolina +7.5 is +ev by itself then your percentages are wrong. if you assume the bet carolina +7 hits half the time on average then your percentages should be:

                                            carolina wins 1/4
                                            philly wins 7 or less 1/4
                                            philly wins 7 or more 1/2

                                            betting is only +ev if you think the odds they give are wrong
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                                            • Big Bear
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 11-01-11
                                              • 43253

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by boomer62
                                              First off, I wish you luck, but you said your back is against the wall. This is your wager for the weekend that you were going undefeated on??? You pick 4 college games that can go either way on and you think you they all go your way and will cash this?? Second it is a dumb bet and better to bet straight then hit a 5 team parlay that you of all people have no luck. I would reconsider!!L
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                                              • boomer62
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-10-11
                                                • 1500

                                                #58
                                                So,you picked 3 ML favorites and a live dog(I had Ohio State and the over,btw. ) with your luck Carolina may win outright. And betting 5 team parlays are dumb, but every now and then one comes thru. And for the record, I like Carolina plus 7 here.
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                                                • Big Bear
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 11-01-11
                                                  • 43253

                                                  #59
                                                  point is you were heckling me.

                                                  point is not to make this shit harder than it needs to be.

                                                  so what i didn't put any long shots in the parlay. Winning is all that matters.

                                                  take the low hanging fruit when the bookies offer it.
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                                                  • boomer62
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 09-10-11
                                                    • 1500

                                                    #60
                                                    Actually wasn't heckling you at all. You come on here and post some some dumb things and you bring attention to yourself. I just stated the obvious that your capping sucks. I wish you the best though and nothing personal.
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                                                    • Urbanwildlife
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 09-06-11
                                                      • 5958

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Urbanwildlife
                                                      Big Bear is .......


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                                                      • paco
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 05-07-09
                                                        • 62873

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Big Bear
                                                        Haters go fukk yourself

                                                        To all my crew . Tail this and get yo money right.


                                                        Arizona State ML over Notre Shame

                                                        TCU ML over Kansas State

                                                        Alabama ML over LSU

                                                        Ohio State ML over Michigan State

                                                        Eagles ML over Panthers


                                                        I have extreme confidence in this Parlay. Lets cash this ticket
                                                        nice winner
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                                                        • Smoke
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 10-09-09
                                                          • 48111

                                                          #63
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                                                          • Big Bear
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 11-01-11
                                                            • 43253

                                                            #64
                                                            I got one for this coming weekend too


                                                            $146 to win $1059

                                                            Ohio State -10 (-150) over Minnesota
                                                            FSU ML -128 over Miami
                                                            Auburn +3.5 (-150) vs Georgia
                                                            Colts ML (-150) over Patriots


                                                            will add write-ups later in the week. Got a pretty busy day today.
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                                                            • boomer62
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 09-10-11
                                                              • 1500

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by big bear
                                                              i got one for this coming weekend too


                                                              $146 to win $1059

                                                              ohio state -10 (-150) over minnesota
                                                              fsu ml -128 over miami
                                                              auburn +3.5 (-150) vs georgia
                                                              colts ml (-150) over patriots


                                                              will add write-ups later in the week. Got a pretty busy day today.
                                                              please don't (146?)
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                                                              • BigdaddyQH
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 07-13-09
                                                                • 19531

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Big Bear
                                                                I got one for this coming weekend too


                                                                $146 to win $1059

                                                                Ohio State -10 (-150) over Minnesota
                                                                FSU ML -128 over Miami
                                                                Auburn +3.5 (-150) vs Georgia
                                                                Colts ML (-150) over Patriots


                                                                will add write-ups later in the week. Got a pretty busy day today.
                                                                The Florida State play is just plain dumb. Why lay 128 when you can lay 110 and give one point, which is absolutely worthless in College Football. It will not matter because you will lose the Colts game.

                                                                On another topic, you do NOT have a "crew" and I never want to see you using that term again. You are NOT Italian, and NOT involved with any Mob. If you want to meet a real "Crew", that can be arranged. Until then, use a different term boy. We Italians feel insulted when some dumb arse loser like yourself thinks he has a "crew". Use a term that you hicks from South Carolina like.
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                                                                • pavyracer
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 04-12-07
                                                                  • 82666

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Big Bear
                                                                  Haters go fukk yourself

                                                                  To all my crew . Tail this and get yo money right.


                                                                  Arizona State ML over Notre Shame

                                                                  TCU ML over Kansas State

                                                                  Alabama ML over LSU

                                                                  Ohio State ML over Michigan State

                                                                  Eagles ML over Panthers


                                                                  I have extreme confidence in this Parlay. Lets cash this ticket
                                                                  Nice hit Big Bear. You are getting better. How is your cousin lemart5?
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                                                                  • Killer_Demo
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 06-15-08
                                                                    • 8409

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by BigdaddyQH

                                                                    If you want to meet a real "Crew", that can be arranged.
                                                                    I didnt know USC shower-boy's had a "crew"
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                                                                    • BigdaddyQH
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 07-13-09
                                                                      • 19531

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by Killer_Demo
                                                                      I didnt know USC shower-boy's had a "crew"
                                                                      We would love to meet you, you little lover of males. You and your gay team in Fresno will not even go to a bowl game this season. What happened? Did you not service that team this season? Are your STD's flaring up again. That is what people like you are famous for. We will run into you one day, and then you will spread your legs, bend over, and kiss your worthless arse good-bye. That day is coming. There are a lot of people in here who hate your queer guts.
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                                                                      • Killer_Demo
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 06-15-08
                                                                        • 8409

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
                                                                        We would love to meet you, you little lover of males. You and your gay team in Fresno will not even go to a bowl game this season. What happened? Did you not service that team this season? Are your STD's flaring up again. That is what people like you are famous for. We will run into you one day, and then you will spread your legs, bend over, and kiss your worthless arse good-bye. That day is coming. There are a lot of people in here who hate your queer guts.
                                                                        shower-boy queer
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