The Las Vegas Game You Should Avoid At All Costs

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  • Russian Rocket
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    • 09-02-12
    • 43910

    #1
    The Las Vegas Game You Should Avoid At All Costs
    Have you ever wondered why casinos place annoying, noise slot machines right inside their front door? Or why the roulette table is placed at the corner you walk by every time you get off the elevator?

    It all has to do with the likelihood of you playing a game and the odds the casino has at taking your money in each game. The house wants to put its most profitable games on prominent display in the casino and for different casinos that could mean different things.
    At Caesars Entertainment's Harrah's Cherokee in North Carolina the slot machines outnumber table games nearly 25:1 while in Las Vegas Flamingo and Paris resorts are only about 10:1.

    On the flip side of the market are high end casinos in Asia like Wynn Resorts' Wynn Macau and Las Vegas Sands' Four Seasons Macau, who have between one and two slot machines for every table game. But in Asia baccarat is what gamblers play, not slot machines.

    A lot goes into where the best odds are for gamblers and can even change from region to region. So, which games should you avoid and where are odds best for the player in a casino?
    Slots will drain you quickly
    If it feels like the penny slots you may stop at from time to time are unlucky machines it's because they are. Penny slots have the worst odds of any slot machine in a casino and it's because the casino has to take a bigger cut of each bet to make money than it does if you're playing bigger bets on each pull.
    Below is a table with the win percentage of slot machines on the Las Vegas Strip in 2013, as reported by the Nevada Gaming Commission.

    1 Cent 11.90%
    5 Cent 9.03%
    25 Cent 8.63%
    1 Dollar 6.70%
    5 Dollar 5.26%
    25 Dollar 4.80%
    100 Dollar 3.74%
    On a per bet basis, there are few places with worse odds than a slot machine. It's no wonder they're everywhere in a casino, especially in regional casinos like Caesars Entertainment where low limit players are likely to stop in for a few tries at their luck.
    What chance do you have at table games?
    For a little better chance at beating the house there are a variety of table games in a casino requiring various levels of skill. For example, roulette is simply a bet on a number or color, blackjack involves some skill on when to hit or stay, and craps includes a dizzying array of betting options.
    The University of Las Vegas Center for Gaming Research has published the following house advantages for popular casino games.

    Blackjack 2%
    Craps (pass/come line bets) 1.4%
    Craps (pass/come with double odds) 0.6%
    Baccarat (no ties bets) 1.2%
    Three Card Poker 3.4%
    Roulette (double-zero) 5.3%
    You can see why roulette and three card poker tables are so prominently placed in casino in Las Vegas. They're simple to understand and they have the biggest house edge for the casino.
    It's worth noting that craps is the only game that has an even money bet in the casino. Betting "The Odds" is betting that "the point" will be thrown before a 7 and it pays even odds depending on what "the point" is in craps.
    But these lower odds means a casino needs to have larger wagers to make the same amount of money as a game with a greater house advantage. That's why you're more likely to see a craps game than you are in your regional casino or even a low end Las Vegas resort like Bally's.

    Do off-Strip casinos really pay out more?
    The other question you might have is whether or not Downtown Las Vegas or Reno give you better odds versus the Las Vegas Strip? Depending on what you're playing it may.
    The table below shows the Nevada Gaming Commission's casino win percentage of low limit slots and popular table table games on the Las Vegas Strip, in Downtown Las Vegas and in Reno. You can see that Reno generally has better odds for players at low limit slots but players generally lose more at table games.

    1 Cent Slot 11.90% 11.21% 7.82%
    5 Cent Slot 9.03% 8.75% 5.36%
    25 Cent Slot 8.63% 5.10% 6.95%
    Blackjack 11.36% 12.69% 14.33%
    Craps 13.42% 12.05% 15.25%
    Roulette 17.30% 19.89% 22.88%
    What's surprising is that the Las Vegas Strip may be the best place to play table games. The Strip may be more competitive with table game rules because of the close proximity to competitors or the fact that it generally has higher wagers than downtown or Reno.
    Either way, it's no guarantee you'll get a better deal off-Strip than you will in the heart of the action in Las Vegas. No matter where you play, stay away from low limit slots and roulette because they're the worst games in the casino for the player. That's why they're so prominently displayed when you walk in the door or off the elevator.
  • MangoKush
    SBR Sharp
    • 07-28-14
    • 318

    #2
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    • Russian Rocket
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 09-02-12
      • 43910

      #3
      Originally posted by MangoKush




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      • JMobile
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 08-21-10
        • 19078

        #4
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        • MangoKush
          SBR Sharp
          • 07-28-14
          • 318

          #5
          If you look close there is a little spike at the very end there. That was my search.
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          • MangoKush
            SBR Sharp
            • 07-28-14
            • 318

            #6
            Originally posted by Russian Rocket



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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388208

              #7
              Hi Sasha I love the slots

              I play them and supermarkets, airports, and convenience stores

              Sasha I love Vegas
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              • Russian Rocket
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 09-02-12
                • 43910

                #8
                Originally posted by MangoKush
                If you look close there is a little spike at the very end there. That was my search.
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                • Russian Rocket
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 09-02-12
                  • 43910

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jjgold
                  Hi Sasha I love the slots

                  I play them and supermarkets, airports, and convenience stores

                  Sasha I love Vegas
                  coach you know better than anyone else here that it's an absolute -EV to play those games
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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388208

                    #10
                    It's hard to stay away from them as the lure of big money is always there
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                    • MangoKush
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 07-28-14
                      • 318

                      #11
                      My ex was the luckiest bitch I've ever known. For one, she dated me, but also she would win so much fukking money playing double double bonus video poker. And it was over a long period of time. We went on a casino boat twice one month, and both times she hit the royal flush jackpot, meanwhile I'm sitting next to her and can't get Jacks or better FFS
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                      • MoMoneyMoVaughn
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 05-08-14
                        • 14988

                        #12
                        Originally posted by MangoKush
                        My ex was the luckiest bitch I've ever known. For one, she dated me, but also she would win so much fukking money playing double double bonus video poker. And it was over a long period of time. We went on a casino boat twice one month, and both times she hit the royal flush jackpot, meanwhile I'm sitting next to her and can't get Jacks or better FFS
                        Mango,

                        She could have been a paid shill.
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                        • Plaza23
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 12-29-13
                          • 7392

                          #13
                          I always thought people playing penny slots were just doing it for the free booze and to get drunk fast. I dont know anyone that plays penny slots to actually make money.
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                          • Ra77er
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 06-20-11
                            • 10969

                            #14
                            Fish head check in
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                            • MangoKush
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 07-28-14
                              • 318

                              #15
                              Originally posted by MoMoneyMoVaughn
                              Mango,

                              She could have been a paid shill.
                              Holy Shit.

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                              • Ralphie Halves
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-13-09
                                • 4507

                                #16
                                Keno and Big 6 Wheel have way worse odds than anything on that list.
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                                • Smoke
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 10-09-09
                                  • 48111

                                  #17
                                  Fishhead would beg to differ
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                                  • web_connect
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 04-24-09
                                    • 299

                                    #18
                                    2% house advantage for black jack is generous. More like half a percent. Then 0 or negative percent once you practice counting.
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                                    • xraygord
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-18-09
                                      • 2599

                                      #19
                                      Never play slots unless I'm just killing time waiting for a poker table to open or something like that. At the casino, it is either blackjack, poker and sports bets.
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                                      • Russian Rocket
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 09-02-12
                                        • 43910

                                        #20
                                        the only thing that I know in a casino is a sportsbook

                                        slots, poker, blackjack and there rest of that bullshit does not exists for me

                                        never played a single hand of poker or blackjack in a casino in my entire life
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                                        • Smoke
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 10-09-09
                                          • 48111

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Russian Rocket
                                          the only thing that I know in a casino is a sportsbook

                                          slots, poker, blackjack and there rest of that bullshit does not exists for me

                                          never played a single hand of poker or blackjack in a casino in my entire life
                                          aint nuttin wrong with a lil dipping. Stick a twenty in and you never know. I hit a couple times off the first $20
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                                          • Russian Rocket
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 09-02-12
                                            • 43910

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Smoke
                                            aint nuttin wrong with a lil dipping. Stick a twenty in and you never know. I hit a couple times off the first $20
                                            I aint dippin in that Smokey
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                                            • Ra77er
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 06-20-11
                                              • 10969

                                              #23
                                              Rocket making a serious push here for players advocate
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                                              • importmoon
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 04-22-11
                                                • 1140

                                                #24
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                                                • Russian Rocket
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 09-02-12
                                                  • 43910

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Ra77er
                                                  Rocket making a serious push here for players advocate
                                                  someone has to do it here ...right?
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                                                  • tatddy
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 03-02-10
                                                    • 10779

                                                    #26
                                                    Not sure why people here don't post sources. Not saying you're trying to pawn this off as your own work, Rocket but still proper to post the link from which you copied this article.

                                                    Seems an epidemic around here.
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                                                    • Russian Rocket
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 09-02-12
                                                      • 43910

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by tatddy
                                                      Not sure why people here don't post sources. Not saying you're trying to pawn this off as your own work, Rocket but still proper to post the link from which you copied this article.

                                                      Seems an epidemic around here.
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                                                      • tatddy
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 03-02-10
                                                        • 10779

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Russian Rocket


                                                        Not that hard pal.
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                                                        • Russian Rocket
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 09-02-12
                                                          • 43910

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by tatddy
                                                          see it wasn't that hard to find a source...but no... you had to whine here a for a bit

                                                          some of you american men are just too hard to understand
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                                                          • jjgold
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 07-20-05
                                                            • 388208

                                                            #30
                                                            casino game for suckers unless you can card count and at least have decent percentages to win
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                                                            • tatddy
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 03-02-10
                                                              • 10779

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Russian Rocket
                                                              see it wasn't that hard to find a source...but no... you had to whine here a for a bit

                                                              some of you american men are just too hard to understand
                                                              No need to be defensive. As I said I want accusing you of plagiarism.

                                                              People here post picks and post "write ups" that are completely copied from other forces. Whatever.

                                                              When you post an entire article it's proper to cite the source. That's not an "American" thing lol. And I wasn't even born in the US.

                                                              Anyway carry on and gl this week.
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                                                              • Russian Rocket
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 09-02-12
                                                                • 43910

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by tatddy
                                                                No need to be defensive. As I said I want accusing you of plagiarism.

                                                                People here post picks and post "write ups" that are completely copied from other forces. Whatever.

                                                                When you post an entire article it's proper to cite the source. That's not an "American" thing lol. And I wasn't even born in the US.

                                                                Anyway carry on and gl this week.
                                                                I'm not being defensive...I'm simply stating my opinion about this issue.
                                                                When I post things, I like to clean them up a little...from stuff like extra links, advertisements and so on - so it will be easier for folks here to read what I post.
                                                                You know your way around computers and internet and I'm pretty sure that you know by now that in order to find a source link, all you have to do is plug the first paragraph of the article into Google search and it will bring you right to it.

                                                                Holler at me if you ever need help with finding a link - I'll query it for ya
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                                                                • tatddy
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 03-02-10
                                                                  • 10779

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Great you sound like you are not only the "players advocate" but also the posters advocate since you're so kind as to "clean up" other people's work and regurgitate it.

                                                                  Since you have so much time to spend on Sbr, can you do us a solid and "clean" this up and repost it?

                                                                  Good looking out
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                                                                  • Russian Rocket
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 09-02-12
                                                                    • 43910

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by tatddy
                                                                    Great you sound like you are not only the "players advocate" but also the posters advocate since you're so kind as to "clean up" other people's work and regurgitate it.

                                                                    Since you have so much time to spend on Sbr, can you do us a solid and "clean" this up and repost it?

                                                                    Good looking out
                                                                    http://blog.hubspot.com/blog/tabid/6...n-the-Web.aspx
                                                                    hey there is no need to prove once again that you're an idiot- I already know that
                                                                    you like to whine and cry like a little bitch and I'm well aware of that
                                                                    now do me a favor and go post a few more of those homo vids of yours - your shane accent cracks me up every time I hear it
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                                                                    • klemopixx
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 10-02-14
                                                                      • 3824

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by MangoKush
                                                                      Holy Shit.

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