Does kobe really make lakers better?

[Menses]

what a PIG this dude is.. man.




LIN and the WHOLE team put together a GREAT EFFORT... and he just threw it away with his selfishness. AGAIN.

i hate KObe (everybody knows this) but i was actually rooting for the Lakers, because i want Lin
not to be tortured.. and i LOVE underdogs...

and the Lakers beating the Clips is a HUUUGE upset...

1-7 SHOTS in the 4th Qtr... WHO THE F*CK takes EIGHT shots in a single QTR,
unless the are going IN?!?!

K-O-B-E (that's who)

this loss is 100% on him. He will blame it on somebody.. you can be sure of that/

There have been many games like this throughout Kobe's career..where his efficiency and teamwork clearly worked..for an entire game...and then for some reason his ego takes over in the 4th quarter and he abandons the entire game plan for hero ball...he is as Stephen A Smith says about the cowboys..., a trainwreck waiting to happen...his worst enemy is himself....

This is why i doubt the Chris Paul trade would have worked out...imagine Kobe ignoring a guy like Paul late in the 4th...it would have been a disaster...

[Menses]

come on dude, LA isnt coming to LA
monte ellis isnt gonna do shit for the lakers

Mark Cuban would have to be a FOOL to allow Ellis to leave Dallas at this point...

[Ratzz]

There have been many games like this throughout Kobe's career..where his efficiency and teamwork clearly worked..for an entire game...and then for some reason his ego takes over in the 4th quarter and he abandons the entire game plan for hero ball...he is as Stephen A Smith says about the cowboys..., a trainwreck waiting to happen...his worst enemy is himself....

This is why i doubt the Chris Paul trade would have worked out...imagine Kobe ignoring a guy like Paul late in the 4th...it would have been a disaster...

completely agree Menses.. Chris Paul trade would have crashed and burned VERY quickly.
Kobe DOES NOT tolerate the presence of serious talent on the Lakers other than himself...

last night's 4th Qtr.. was a perfect microcosm of what the Kobe effect is in Los Angeles,
everybody on that team knows KOBE blew the game..

but no one is allowed to say.. because if they do they are losers.
it is fascinating.. Byron is ******.. his personal coaching record is
going to take a beating under Kobe

Stats need to reflect efficiency first.. like a pitcher's ERA
(Earned Runs) x (9 Innings) divided by (Innings Pitched)

30 pts a game is GREAT!! but only on less that 20-25 Shots
above 25.. the game was almost certainly lost

[jjgold]

I doubt any team wants him

Good chance Lakers will try to unload him if he also wants to leave

[chico2663]

read this on the insider. No one wants to play with kobe. They had all this money and no one would come. He throws all his teammates under a bus. Buss is old school and won't say anything bad about anyone unlike the genius running the knicks org. The fans and sponsors don't want to go into rebuilding mold. by paying kobe the extra money that they can't get a fa to take; they don't look cheap. In 2 yrs all the money is off the book and Kobe is no longer in charge.If you don't believe the stars are in charge all you have to do is look at miami. Lebron wanted the uconn guard and they drafted him. He then left to go to clev.

[chico2663]

http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/11717596/is-kobe-bryant-reason-los-angeles-lakers-downfall

[hotelis]

Kobe' s the only guy who works on defense

[Menses]

I doubt any team wants him

Good chance Lakers will try to unload him if he also wants to leave

Word has it..that is precisely what is being rumored...Of course we all know the lakers front office does not have the balls to trade him...If Bob Kraft or Mark Cuban were running the team...Kobe would have been shipped out before Dwight left...LOL.....but alas....that is not the case..but the rumors nonetheless are starting to take shape...a sound beating at the hands of the Warriors tonight might do the trick...meanwhile, the Lakers just lost out on another potential Free agent with the 70 million deal for Klay Thompson..What this means is that another potential scapegoat for Kobe...is no longer on the table...LOL

http://www.sportsgrid.com/nba/is-a-kobe-bryant-trade-on-the-horizon-a-few-rumored-scenarios/

[TwoWays]

Fckn kobe! 21Pts off 23 shots and it's only 3rd qtr

[TwoWays]

Dude is seriously hogging shots like its the end of the world

[Salmon Steak]

Kobe has played 30 min now. They can't take him out. Always behind.

[Catch77]

Kobe is
1. taking gambles on D and letting his man score.
2. Throwing up bricks
3. Shooting 50% on FT
Hes done. But he will avg 26 points on a team that may win 35 games and everybody will be on his nutz for another year

[TwoWays]

Kobes defense is embarrassing. Does he take pride in doing anything well. Guy just chucks cause no one can tell him not to

[THam12]

Kobe is
1. taking gambles on D and letting his man score.
2. Throwing up bricks
3. Shooting 50% on FT
Hes done. But he will avg 26 points on a team that may win 35 games and everybody will be on his nutz for another year

35 games?..

[Catch77]

35 games?..

good point. i was giving them the benefit of the doubt Realistically they will probably fare pretty well against the low rung Eastern conference teams. but yeah they will be the 14th/15th "seed" in the west. They are the WORST team in the west only Sacramento can beat them for that title. What was the over under for Laker total wins?

[TwoWays]

Ho hum, 37 shot attempts. I've never seen such a thing. No wonder why kobe advocating for his boy toy Byron Scott. Those fckers sure look out for their own first. To them team and other players come behind Kobe.

[tony_come]

Kobe is a cancer

[tony_come]

I would bench my ass if I was his teammate

[jjgold]

0-82??

He just hog the ball tonight and got 39 points

[PAYTON20]

Settle down Tony

That's the hilarious part about the Lakers this season. Kobe going for scoring records and not giving a fukk about W/L

[Ratzz]

Kobe needs help.. how humiliating for a coach. I have never seen this kind of abuse professionally.

This is rape. Of a basketball team.

he is just doing whatever he feels like doing to serve his won purposes.

He is trying desperately to pass Kareem. He does not care about anybody or anything.
and the headlines STILL read: Only Kobe is trying. Everybody other Laker is a loser.

AND THEN.. in the post-game, he will pin the loss on people that never had the opportunity
to get hot, feel dissed, so when they ACTUALLY DO SEE the ball, they are not into the game.

If you sit in a restaurant and are kept waiting for 1 hr. before you are served.. when the food finally does
come, you just want to get up and leave. No way you are going to enjoy the meal after being so disrespected.

[PAYTON20]

Ratzz get used to it pal

Did the Lakers have a shot to make the playoffs this year?

Kobe is going for the scoring record = he DGAF

[sneakerhead]

Kobe needs help.. how humiliating for a coach. I have never seen this kind of abuse professionally.

This is rape. Of a basketball team.

he is just doing whatever he feels like doing to serve his won purposes.

He is trying desperately to pass Kareem. He does not care about anybody or anything.
and the headlines STILL read: Only Kobe is trying. Everybody other Laker is a loser.

AND THEN.. in the post-game, he will pin the loss on people that never had the opportunity
to get hot, feel dissed, so when they ACTUALLY DO SEE the ball, they are not into the game.

If you sit in a restaurant and are kept waiting for 1 hr. before you are served.. when the food finally does
come, you just want to get up and leave. No way you are going to enjoy the meal after being so disrespected.

Are you this clueless in every sport? Did you watch the game?

Kobe made plays to get them in the game and every single time his defense let him down. Unnecessary fouls when the game was one possession away, you actually feel bad for him.

[jsmithj88]

Are you this clueless in every sport? Did you watch the game?

Kobe made plays to get them in the game and every single time his defense let him down. Unnecessary fouls when the game was one possession away, you actually feel bad for him.

not really
he took the gigantic cash payment which resulted in B level teammates
now he gets what he deserves

[sneakerhead]

not really
he took the gigantic cash payment which resulted in B level teammates
now he gets what he deserves

fair enough

[Ratzz]

Are you this clueless in every sport? Did you watch the game?

Kobe made plays to get them in the game and every single time his defense let him down. Unnecessary fouls when the game was one possession away, you actually feel bad for him.

is that how you interpret not involving anybody else? wow. serious homer-vision
taking that many shots in a game kills ALL OTHER ASPECTS of a team's performance..

Kobe.. with every shot is making a statement to his teammates. "NONE OF YOU MATTER AT ALL"

how jazzed would your defense be.. if you were just in there, because they need 5 guys on the floor?
because that is what he is telling them

[rm18]

Lol lakers win 10 games tops

[Menses]

Kobes defense is embarrassing. Does he take pride in doing anything well. Guy just chucks cause no one can tell him not to

He cannot afford to be a two way player and still contribute on offense...and that isn't age...that has been his MO since his late 20's...he checked out on defense long before his injury problems..hahaha

[Menses]

Kobe needs help.. how humiliating for a coach. I have never seen this kind of abuse professionally.

This is rape. Of a basketball team.

he is just doing whatever he feels like doing to serve his won purposes.

He is trying desperately to pass Kareem. He does not care about anybody or anything.
and the headlines STILL read: Only Kobe is trying. Everybody other Laker is a loser.

AND THEN.. in the post-game, he will pin the loss on people that never had the opportunity
to get hot, feel dissed, so when they ACTUALLY DO SEE the ball, they are not into the game.

If you sit in a restaurant and are kept waiting for 1 hr. before you are served.. when the food finally does
come, you just want to get up and leave. No way you are going to enjoy the meal after being so disrespected.

I thought my eyes had deceived me...saw the number of shots...and decided had to have coffee first before I could trust myself..LOL...yep still 37 shots...I wonder if Magic and James Worthy will blast Byron Scott the way they did Mike D'Antoni.....will they hold Kobe responsible...? I doubt it.....but as I said in my previous post...Jim and Jeannie are going to protect that 5th pick...The Kings and Pelicans are better than them this year...so they will get that 15th spot...

[thetrinity]

Lol lakers win 10 games tops

This is closer to the truth than 35 wins or the playoffs like some guys said here. Team is clearly worst team in the west. The schedule is brutal out of the gate, the game Sunday home against Charlotte is the only winnable one for the next 2 weeks. They could be a 20 point dog on a b2b in Houston on the 19th and I wouldnt bat an eyelash.

[thetrinity]

He cannot afford to be a two way player and still contribute on offense...and that isn't age...that has been his MO since his late 20's...he checked out on defense long before his injury problems..hahaha

Phil Jackson said in his book that Kobe was overrated on defense because he took a ton of chances that resulted in WOW plays, but in reality he was constantly out of position.

[Smoke]

Yes he does

[jjgold]

How the heck do they get to 10 wins??

[TwoWays]

Just wanted to update that records don't deter kobe. He chucked it 28 times last night and it stuck to the wall 10 times. He will challenge another record, lowest fg % with highest amount of chucks, in combination of highest number of losses.

[Seto]

TwoWays you don't understand the game of basketball. Let people who have a clue discuss the games.

Thanks.