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  • Just Blaze
    SBR High Roller
    • 02-21-11
    • 110

    #1
    Any other pros seeing reduced limits on major in play markets/overnights at Pinny?
    Is anyone else seeing reduced limits on overnights or in play...I'm not talking standard circled games or openers.

    I know I am limited on in play MLB but now am seeing it on NHL as well for overnights and intermissions. It really starts to impact the value of the line when you have to two or three bet, my live bets are moving NHL lines about 15 cents on average and overnights can be even more especially plus the limits make it pointless. Going back through my historicals years past I can they at least allowed 3k per and that was on totals, sides are always higher, puckline should be same as total.

    Was gonna hit anaheim a third time but the first one moved it 16 cents then the second one pushed it all the way up to -120, value was gone by then.

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    Hope everyone is ready to start pounding away at NCAA hoops for $500 a pop.
  • beermankirk
    SBR MVP
    • 11-17-09
    • 1512

    #2
    i dont max them, but i see live mlb max says 15k, and when i hover its closer to 3k...

    Thought pinny didnt limit
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    • Just Blaze
      SBR High Roller
      • 02-21-11
      • 110

      #3
      Those are circled games that will open once they have enough money to correct or balance the market...their traders cant really do that for live bets they have a general range of stock lines they deal and adjust slightly for situation....especially with mlb ie home team losing going to bottom 8th will be -180 on the run line spread.

      Nhl this year one goal leads are equating to about -270 to -330 assuming no total garbage canadian team is involved in which case you see calgary leading chicago 1-0 end of the 2nd at -120. A lot of the totals this year they are adding a third goal in third periods and putting up lines like -270 +220 which is pointless to offer.
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      • scumbag
        SBR MVP
        • 11-02-13
        • 3504

        #4
        Originally posted by Just Blaze
        Is anyone else seeing reduced limits on overnights or in play...I'm not talking standard circled games or openers.

        I know I am limited on in play MLB but now am seeing it on NHL as well for overnights and intermissions. It really starts to impact the value of the line when you have to two or three bet, my live bets are moving NHL lines about 15 cents on average and overnights can be even more especially plus the limits make it pointless. Going back through my historicals years past I can they at least allowed 3k per and that was on totals, sides are always higher, puckline should be same as total.

        Was gonna hit anaheim a third time but the first one moved it 16 cents then the second one pushed it all the way up to -120, value was gone by then.

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        Hope everyone is ready to start pounding away at NCAA hoops for $500 a pop.
        pretty baller bet sizes.
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        • boeing power
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 03-23-10
          • 9698

          #5
          Originally posted by scumbag
          pretty baller bet sizes.
          He's the Floyd Mayweather of SBR.
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          • Optional
            Administrator
            • 06-10-10
            • 61745

            #6
            Originally posted by Just Blaze
            Is anyone else seeing reduced limits on overnights or in play...I'm not talking standard circled games or openers.

            I know I am limited on in play MLB but now am seeing it on NHL as well for overnights and intermissions. It really starts to impact the value of the line when you have to two or three bet, my live bets are moving NHL lines about 15 cents on average and overnights can be even more especially plus the limits make it pointless. Going back through my historicals years past I can they at least allowed 3k per and that was on totals, sides are always higher, puckline should be same as total.

            Was gonna hit anaheim a third time but the first one moved it 16 cents then the second one pushed it all the way up to -120, value was gone by then.

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            Hope everyone is ready to start pounding away at NCAA hoops for $500 a pop.
            Have you got a bet on for 300k at -9000 or something like that going on there?
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            • boeing power
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 03-23-10
              • 9698

              #7
              Originally posted by Optional
              Have you got a bet on for 300k at -9000 or something like that going on there?
              Looks like total wagered and total profit.
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              • Optional
                Administrator
                • 06-10-10
                • 61745

                #8
                Originally posted by boeing power
                Looks like total wagered and total profit.
                Thought it was total at risk and potential profit.

                Guy must have wanted someone to ask, leaving it in the screenshot.
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                • JoeyBagels
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 03-10-13
                  • 784

                  #9
                  There are starting to be better ways to get down for American sports than pinnacle. Their Soccer offerings are still good though.
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                  • Just Blaze
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 02-21-11
                    • 110

                    #10
                    The bottom is history for october...and generally on this forum when you ask questions related to limit betting 100 air bettors call you out so i figured might as well skip that
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #11
                      You got a remember pinnacle has lost a decent amount of liquidity the last two years

                      You're going to see them making adjustments even with juice
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                      • Just Blaze
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 02-21-11
                        • 110

                        #12
                        FT on game day is business as usual, they are still up there with the Asians. Live is a different beast...once you understand the market and the correct perceived price in certain situations it can be a refresh war to get the +EV. Naturally it is also far more difficult to deal a live line to a sharp clientele which is reflected in the vig and limit. It is very tough to deal a live line solely based on algo's, I would assume the trader has a range and a couple other factors to price the market initially

                        Ask yourself why limits are lower for MLB and NHL vs NFL and Soccer. Do you think this is solely based on liquidity - or margins and profitability? They are not necessarily correlated.

                        This is seconds after availability...I only hit this 2x

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                        • Optional
                          Administrator
                          • 06-10-10
                          • 61745

                          #13
                          It sounds like they probably value your opinion more than most Blaze.

                          I doubt they would move 2 cents on a max bet from me. let alone more than 20.
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