Derek Carr is the Truth

[crustyme]

Carr doesn't have much offensive talent around him. MJD is a shell of his former self and still isn't tall enough to get into half the rides in Disneyland.

here come the excuses. i thought he was "the truth."

[bigtymer56]

Talk geno up....takes an awful sack to take them out of fg range

[NYSportsGuy210]

here come the excuses. i thought he was "the truth."

Stop lying dude.

[R.P. McMurphy]

Excuses Last I checked a Qb to be successful requires support, receivers, running gm, o-line, play calling, a defense that does not put you in big holes etc. It's still a team gm last I checked and even if your name is Peyton, Rodgers, or Brady you need some of those factors at least going your way. Kid is young and this was a tough test which is why even as a Raider fan I layed the 5. No need to rush into assumptions this early on Carr or compare him to his brother. Eli is no Peyton either and has worked with more all around talent most of his career!

[greenhippo]

.....what was he lying about? Are you saying you did NOT create a thread stating that "Carr was the truth"?

[kidcudi92]

this whole thread is

[crustyme]

Stop lying dude.

what the hell are you talking about?

you made this bold prediction:

Game has not started yet....5 minutes to kick off. But we are about to witness the greatest surprise story of the 2014 NFL season right here boys. This kid passes the eye ball test and accuracy - arm strength test with flying colors.

then started making excuses after he led the raiders to -15 yards of offense in 5 possessions.

[R.P. McMurphy]

Far as "the truth" I get it too early still let him have some time. Far as QB's go throw #'s and all that shit out the window for most part. You can just spot a real Qb who has potential and upside with the eye test. Kid is smart, poised pretty well, has swagger/confidence and can zip the football rest is up to the talent that's around him. Some guys have fallen by the wayside over the years who may have shined if put in a better situation.

[crustyme]

Excuses Last I checked a Qb to be successful requires support, receivers, running gm, o-line, play calling, a defense that does not put you in big holes etc. It's still a team gm last I checked and even if your name is Peyton, Rodgers, or Brady you need some of those factors at least going your way. Kid is young and this was a tough test which is why even as a Raider fan I layed the 5. No need to rush into assumptions this early on Carr or compare him to his brother. Eli is no Peyton either and has worked with more all around talent most of his career!

where did i disagree that raiders lack talent on the offensive side? i've been saying that for years.

i was referring to his bold prediction that carr was "the truth" and would be the "greatest surprise story of the 2014 season," then began making excuses when he started to suck. why would someone make such a bold prediction knowing the raiders lack talent on the offensive side or did he just find that out in the 4th quarter?

[NYSportsGuy210]

Wow look at the next 6 games for the NY Jets. This team better savor this season opening win cause they're not getting another one anytime soon!

[Killer_Demo]

Carr has no key players around him, receivers cant catch and the o-line is bad, defense is bad too

[Ra77er]

Poor guy, he watched a little too much preseason and bought in. Guy is reeling cut him some slack.

[NYSportsGuy210]

Carr has no key players around him, receivers cant catch and the o-line is bad, defense is bad too

Exactly what I said a few posts up. This Crusty Guy just doesn't wanna listen.

[R.P. McMurphy]

Never said you did Crusty? Guess it's the term you used...excuse just seems like a cop out term. Carr's "excuses" with the talent around him for now are pretty legit.

[TankHankerous]

What a catch by Jonesy

[crustyme]

Carr has no key players around him, receivers cant catch and the o-line is bad, defense is bad too

cant catch?

james jones just made an incredible highlight catch that'll be repeated on sportscenter all day.

[NYSportsGuy210]

Once again I re-iterate...Derek Carr is the TRUTHHH!

Kid just needs some decent weapons around him at WR and RB.

[NYSportsGuy210]

cant catch?

james jones just made an incredible highlight catch that'll be repeated on sportscenter all day.

James Jones is like 40 dude.

[greenhippo]

All credit to Streater on that one. No doubt.

Jones uses his skills to bail out Carr again.

[crustyme]

Never said you did Crusty? Guess it's the term you used...excuse just seems like a cop out term. Carr's "excuses" with the talent around him for now are pretty legit.

huh?

he's the one who proclaimed carr as "the truth" and the "greatest story of 2014" then started backpeddling and blaming the guys around him for making his prediction look like the joke it is.

so how is he not making excuses?

[crustyme]

Once again I re-iterate...Derek Carr is the TRUTHHH!

Kid just needs some decent weapons around him at WR and RB.

151 passing yds... half of it in garbage time.

more like "the lie."

lol

[greenhippo]

Crusty, it seems a lot of people here are scared and confused with the term "excuse". It's almost like their brain can't process what we would consider such a simple word so they feel they need to lash out because of this scary new word being thrown at them.

[crustyme]

Crusty, it seems a lot of people here are scared and confused with the term "excuse". It's almost like their brain can't process what we would consider such a simple word so they feel they need to lash out because of this scary new word being thrown at them.

apparently.

[R.P. McMurphy]

Crusty he's not back peddling hahaha. Did Peyton for ex look like the "truth" necessarily in his rookie year? No he struggled alot but you could just tell he was a real QB and had alot of talent. Not saying Carr is Peyton by any means but think the OP is just implying the future should be bright and expects him to grow and mature while hopefully making the talent around him better as season goes. That is the definition of the "the truth" far as a Qb is concerned and no reason to think otherwise at this point.

[Killer_Demo]

Hey hippo did you get your snaggle-tooth fixed yet?

[crustyme]

Crusty he's not back peddling hahaha. Did Peyton for ex look like the "truth" necessarily in his rookie year? No he struggled alot but you could just tell he was a real QB and had alot of talent. Not saying Carr is Peyton by any means but think the OP is just implying the future should be bright and expects him to grow and mature while hopefully making the talent around him better as season goes. That is the definition of the "the truth" far as a Qb is concerned and no reason to think otherwise at this point.

obviously we have a difference of opinion of what "biggest story of 2014" means.

[R.P. McMurphy]

Yeah on that issue you got me. And I'm a few beers deep and maybe a little too defensive of Carr the Raiders are my team so I have high hopes for this kid. Been a long struggle since '03 for the Nation by far the darkest days of our entire existence. You know ur shit Crusty I respect you....and my Nyj -5 pushes what are the fukking odds haha of pushing on a 5!

[Cuse0323]

Regardless, the guy is an NFL caliber QB.

[No coincidences]

Fall is back, there's a crisp breeze in the air, the leaves are starting to turn colors, and NYSG is burying himself again at SBR.

All is right with the world again.

[JAKEPEAVY21]

0-4 and not many winnable games on schedule...guy is a loser typical fresno st scrub

[teaserpleaser]

Derek Carr was the best QB this draft. FRESNO ST!

no surprise here... if demo was smart or good at making decisions he wouldn't be living in the dust bowl

[crustyme]

the only truth is u'd die laughing if u saw demos face.

lolol

[jjgold]

Many guys are not good evaluators

Pre Season does not mean anything

[TwoWays]

generic carr, ugh! matt mcgroin plays better and excoach chose this guy.

[Killer_Demo]

the only truth is u'd die laughing if u saw demos face.

lolol