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  • rm18
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-20-05
    • 22291

    #1
    Spain does not win -174
    Spain has a very hard bracket to get to the final game they have to beat Brazil and France as well as another decent team. USA will have pretty much a cake walk to the title game with Australia being their hardest opponent possible opponent before the title game. It seems like they put all the good teams in groups A and B so USA will easily make the title game. Also USA built their roster to matchup with Spain by haeing a ton of centers on the end of the bench in case they need them for Ibaka and the Gasol's.
  • cankid
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-22-08
    • 7231

    #2
    Thanks gluck on the wager
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    • thetrinity
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 01-25-11
      • 22431

      #3
      any chance usa and spain both lose
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      • pavyracer
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 04-12-07
        • 82840

        #4
        There are no cakewalks. Anyone can lose even the US. This is not even close to a Dream Team.
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        • rm18
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 09-20-05
          • 22291

          #5
          Originally posted by thetrinity
          any chance usa and spain both lose
          Not very likely Brazil with the best shot though if Faried or Davis gets hurt the USA could be in trouble
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          • gopolks
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 11-16-12
            • 791

            #6
            Watch out for the tall blacks!! Sure Steve Adams isnt there, but good solid players are.
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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388179

              #7
              What are max wagers on these type of bets
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              • rm18
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 09-20-05
                • 22291

                #8
                Originally posted by jjgold
                What are max wagers on these type of bets
                $500 on 5 dimes pinnacle has it too probably a bigger limit but i have no account there. Unlimited rebets after line moves if you are willing to bet at a worse number can get a ton of money down.
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                • Ghenghis Kahn
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 01-02-12
                  • 19734

                  #9
                  isn't usa -165 a better bet? i mean it'll be spain vs usa in the finals.
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                  • rm18
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 09-20-05
                    • 22291

                    #10
                    no -165 you need to win 62.2% to break even

                    -174 is 63.5%

                    The other 22 teams combined have at least a 5% shot i think
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                    • Romerowned
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 03-20-12
                      • 186

                      #11
                      I got it at -170. Let's get it.
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                      • ernandez
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 08-10-14
                        • 44

                        #12
                        ain will definitly take the title

                        Do not underestimate Spain .They will definitely take the title, Usa are far away from those Dream Teams, like the One in Barcelona, when the difference in classes and styles was cosmic.

                        Mark Gasol, Serge Ibaka , Ricku Rubio and Calderon will humiliate any team , who dare to take the Gold from them
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                        • thetrinity
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-25-11
                          • 22431

                          #13
                          ive been underwhelmed by what ive seen from usa so far actually
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                          • frugalgambler
                            SBR MVP
                            • 05-30-13
                            • 3418

                            #14
                            Originally posted by thetrinity
                            ive been underwhelmed by what ive seen from usa so far actually
                            This is probably even an understatement. After KD decided not to play, this version of team USA does not have a dominant go-to guy; couple that with an overall team's lack of experience with playing FIBA rules, hostile crowds, guys like Drose and Gay who have no business playing FIBA b/c they cannot shot the ball and this smells like trouble. Team USA has not played any decent team in tuneups, but their bracket is indeed easy. The first real test will probably come in the semis vs Lithuania; and then the potential final vs Spain should be dynamite, close to a 50-50 matchup there.
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                            • Romerowned
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 03-20-12
                              • 186

                              #15
                              It's early but Spain looking good so far
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                              • TwoWays
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 03-24-10
                                • 13145

                                #16
                                Spain has a better front court than USA. They also have a terrific group of backcourt players with international experience and who are stars in Europe. USA would be lucky to get past Spain. Feels like silver for USA in the end
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                                • CWD
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 01-22-12
                                  • 7665

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by TwoWays
                                  Spain has a better front court than USA. They also have a terrific group of backcourt players with international experience and who are stars in Europe. USA would be lucky to get past Spain. Feels like silver for USA in the end
                                  keep dreaming funniest post ive seen in a long time u getting on that seaweed level now
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                                  • Chi_archie
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-22-08
                                    • 63172

                                    #18
                                    solid team
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                                    • rm18
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 09-20-05
                                      • 22291

                                      #19
                                      Looks like Spain will be well over a +200 dog against USA still though plus no lock to get there. Based on the spreads for other games I think USA is -7.5 vs. Spain.
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                                      • Romerowned
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 03-20-12
                                        • 186

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by rm18
                                        Looks like Spain will be well over a +200 dog against USA still though plus no lock to get there. Based on the spreads for other games I think USA is -7.5 vs. Spain.
                                        That makes no sense. How could Spain be a +200 dog against USA but be less than +200 to win the whole tournament.
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                                        • Goat Milk
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 03-24-10
                                          • 25850

                                          #21
                                          USA is an okay team. They should win easily. Rose and Gay aren't shooters but USA already has the best shooter in the world right now and that's curry and he can easily take over these fiba type games. International play isn't really about shooting its about attacking, the best team we had after the dream team was the 08 team where it was Mello James Bryant and D Wade coming off the bench as the sixth man (and he ended up winning mvp of the olympics, avg like 17 a game on 70% shooting or something ridiculous).

                                          Fiba 3 is like a midrange jumper in the nba. Nothing for these guys. Just too many 1 on 1 players on this team. Not enough experience. But they'll still win in the end.
                                          Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                          • ernandez
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 08-10-14
                                            • 44

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Romerowned
                                            That makes no sense. How could Spain be a +200 dog against USA but be less than +200 to win the whole tournament.
                                            Spain to win the trophy is now +130 and I think that at the final both teams will come in line (-117). Probably Spain will be a slight favorite is their home court. I predict at the Final, USA - 3,5 Points . Gasol brothers and Ibaka played perfectly all these 4 games till and and will continue their winning streak and massive dominance in offensive and defensive rebounds.
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                                            • TwoWays
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                                              • 03-24-10
                                              • 13145

                                              #23
                                              Anyone that's watched this Spain team play knows USA will get more than they can handle. They've been demolishing opponents as much as US has. USA perimeter players are either bad defenders and good shooters, or good defenders and ok shooters. Gasol, gasol, and ibaka are at a disadvantage against the USA bigs? Don't think so.
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                                              • rm18
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 09-20-05
                                                • 22291

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by ernandez
                                                Spain to win the trophy is now +130 and I think that at the final both teams will come in line (-117). Probably Spain will be a slight favorite is their home court. I predict at the Final, USA - 3,5 Points . Gasol brothers and Ibaka played perfectly all these 4 games till and and will continue their winning streak and massive dominance in offensive and defensive rebounds.
                                                Spain -16 vs France USA -26.5 vs Lithuania who is pretty even to France do you see what I mean? USA would of been big favorites if Spain made it.
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388179

                                                  #25
                                                  We're going to breeze through this

                                                  No competition
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                                                  • Pauulzcappin
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                                                    • 04-23-10
                                                    • 20295

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by ernandez
                                                    Spain to win the trophy is now +130 and I think that at the final both teams will come in line (-117). Probably Spain will be a slight favorite is their home court. I predict at the Final, USA - 3,5 Points . Gasol brothers and Ibaka played perfectly all these 4 games till and and will continue their winning streak and massive dominance in offensive and defensive rebounds.
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                                                    • Romerowned
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 03-20-12
                                                      • 186

                                                      #27
                                                      Nice cash for us
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                                                      • ernandez
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 08-10-14
                                                        • 44

                                                        #28
                                                        GL to European teams against US. If not Lithuania, France will know what to do. Spain where in very bad shape. Lets see who will take the trophey.
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                                                        • rm18
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 09-20-05
                                                          • 22291

                                                          #29
                                                          I dont think France can win because their offense is so bad Lithuania probably the toughest test today
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                                                          • ernandez
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 08-10-14
                                                            • 44

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by rm18
                                                            I dont think France can win because their offense is so bad Lithuania probably the toughest test today
                                                            I think that Lithuania will give their best, It all depends on the first quarter. If they are aggressive enough they can take soemthing from the game. Slovenia were close but their centers were not that high and effective. Hope will see a very nice game !!!
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                                                            • Lebensraum
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 09-11-14
                                                              • 20

                                                              #31
                                                              Easy $
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