Phil Ivey scamming yet again?!

[itchypickle]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poker-pro-phil-ivey-accused-of-cheating-by-the-borgata-in-atlantic-city/

This guy

[daneblazer]

Edge sorting has never been declared illegal anywhere,

Casino has an edge on everyone who walks through the door. Turn the tides on them and it's a law suit. Too bad the poor schmuck who dumps his paycheck into rigged slots can't sue the casino

[Ghenghis Kahn]

so when a house has edge, it's fair but when a player has an edge, it's called cheating?

get the fukk outta here!!!! casinos hate winner period.

[Darkside Magick]

Ivey not scamming no one...dude just plain smart and make casinos look like bytches

[professionalAD]

mr. ivey fuuuck the house

[jjgold]

he will end up broke like any compulsive gambler does

[byronbb]

he will end up broke like any compulsive gambler does

I think he has too much money to lose and he plays in ridiculous games in Macau with billionaire Chinese degenerates so he has serious income. PLus he was hooked into Full Tilt from the beginning. His net worth is like 100 million. Gus Hansen on the other hand could be a candidate for such a fate.

[BennyBigNuts]

I think he has too much money to lose and he plays in ridiculous games in Macau with billionaire Chinese degenerates so he has serious income. PLus he was hooked into Full Tilt from the beginning. His net worth is like 100 million. Gus Hansen on the other hand could be a candidate for such a fate.

You live in fantasy land.
Ivey has been broke plenty of times in the last 10 years.
He borrows massive amounts all the time.
Endorsements kept him going along with cheating ppl out of their money with the Full Tilt stuff.

Dude will be busted soon and not have any outs anymore to get it back.
Major Degen gambler.

[jjgold]

You live in fantasy land.
Ivey has been broke plenty of times in the last 10 years.
He borrows massive amounts all the time.
Endorsements kept him going along with cheating ppl out of their money with the Full Tilt stuff.

Dude will be busted soon and not have any outs anymore to get it back.
Major Degen gambler.

exactly

no such thing as having too much money never to go bust

gambling wiped out a few billionaires

[bobbywaves]

he will end up broke like any compulsive gambler does

False, his intelligence won't allow that to happen.

[James Marques]

False, his intelligence won't allow that to happen.

It's not very intelligent to cheat a casino if you ask me.

[jjgold]

False, his intelligence won't allow that to happen.

your a good kid but very very naive Stevey

Best of luck tonight

[tony_come]

Old news

[TheCentaur]

I just don't see how Ivey manipulating the casino with requests is any different than a casino getting u drunk, playing subliminally persuasive music, having disorienting carpet and layouts, and the list goes on

[The Giant]

Why would a casino allow players to use their own cards? I don't quite understand that part.

[jjgold]

Phil Ivey is a compulsive gambler as we all know compulsive gamblers lie and cheat and scam

[TheCentaur]

Why would a casino allow players to use their own cards? I don't quite understand that part.

I don't think it was his cards, I think it was one of the types of cards they use there

Casinos get weird superstitious requests from high rollers all the time though which is why they probably didn't think much of it

[Da Manster!]

Phil Ivey and Tiger Woods could easily pass for brothers!...they look almost identical!

[InTheDrink]

your a good kid but very very naive Stevey

Best of luck tonight

[t-wizzle]

Good for him. I hope he wins in court.

[The Giant]

I don't think it was his cards, I think it was one of the types of cards they use there

Casinos get weird superstitious requests from high rollers all the time though which is why they probably didn't think much of it

So, the casino is risking millions of dollars and they don't even realize their own cards are sorted?

How hard can it be to get an expert to verify the cards prior to playing? There must be something I'm not seeing here.

[TheCentaur]

So, the casino is risking millions of dollars and they don't even realize their own cards are sorted?

How hard can it be to get an expert to verify the cards prior to playing? There must be something I'm not seeing here.

Yeah I don't understand exactly what went on either. I think it happened as the cards were played and for the next shoe, but in high limit bacc they usually destroy the cards after a whole shoe is played I thought

[Guinser]

it was a defect in the cards that he picked up on and was able to exploit..pretty dumb that they can sue him when they make tons of $ through edges

[Gruntworker]

What I don't get is that according to the story they were using a shuffler. If that's the case, what would it matter if he could tell what the cards are based on the patterns? Do they deal baccarat different in Atlantic City then I am used to in California and Nevada? I'm used to placing my bet before the cards are even dealt. If they are still in the shuffler and/or shoe... then who cares if you can tell what they are after they are dealt?

[cruzing vato]

He posts here on SBR, so let's see what he has to say about it..

[GUMMO77]

So Ivey requested a automatic shuffler and for the dealer to turn particular cards a certain way, and the pit bosses did nothing? All in a private high stakes room? All I can say is FUK the casino! If they didn't think something sketchy was going on, then the deserve to lose that money.

This kinda reminds me of how Target was hacked. Target knew a virus got into their system but wanted to figure out not only how it worked, but what it did. Once they saw damage it did, it was too late.

[JohnGalt2341]

Phil Ivey and Tiger Woods could easily pass for brothers!...they look almost identical!

[sinmiedo]

aliens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Roy Halladay]

Love it!

[bruins35]

poker players are the biggest scum bags on earth

[OTL]

poker players are the biggest scum bags on earth

Not all of them. Many are very shrewd business men who use their public poker personas primarily to generate sales and endorsement deals.

[byronbb]

poker players are the biggest scum bags on earth

[bobbywaves]

It's not very intelligent to cheat a casino if you ask me.

Since when is being intelligent considered cheating?

[TheCentaur]

never seen that

[bobbywaves]

your a good kid but very very naive Stevey

Best of luck tonight

Kid? No luck necessary Coach, get my pussy for free.