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  • pavyracer
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 04-12-07
    • 82840

    #36
    Originally posted by Big Bear
    i ask b/c from what i understand Spain is a very good defensive team while Argentina is explosive on offense...

    Spain seems to be clutch but obviously the atmosphere favors Argentina..

    Just curious who matches up better in a contrast of styles like this?
    Spain is not defensive team and Argentina is not explosive on offense ..next question.

    Have you ever watched these teams play?
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    • Big Bear
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 11-01-11
      • 43253

      #37
      Originally posted by pavyracer
      I would check the odds first.

      If the Yankees meet the Giants in game 5 of the world series who would you take?
      Who are the pitchers and in SF or NY?

      it ain't like we gotta factor in starting pitchers in soccer. And we know its going to be played in Brazil.

      Assume both teams are healthy... who wins that matchup? Its an opinion question pal there is no right or wrong answer.
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      • pavyracer
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 04-12-07
        • 82840

        #38
        Originally posted by Big Bear
        Who are the pitchers and in SF or NY?

        it ain't like we gotta factor in starting pitchers in soccer. And we know its going to be played in Brazil.

        Assume both teams are healthy... who wins that matchup? Its an opinion question pal there is no right or wrong answer.
        Again I would look at the odds. You look for value in World Cup. You also need to see starting line ups like you do in baseball. Teams have 23 players and only 11 start. And it will be impossible for both teams to be 100 perfect healthy or not have suspensions in a semi final game.
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        • Pauulzcappin
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 04-23-10
          • 20295

          #39
          paver please

          the 4 offensive players for argentina on di maria, aguero, higuain and messi are probably the best offensive line any team in this tournament has.
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          • MakePwithMe
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 04-06-14
            • 547

            #40
            Nasri didn't even make the world cup squad...lol
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            • pavyracer
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 04-12-07
              • 82840

              #41
              Originally posted by MakePwithMe
              Nasri didn't even make the world cup squad...lol
              Kaka was left out too.
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              • SarahPalin
                SBR MVP
                • 11-26-13
                • 1489

                #42
                Originally posted by pavyracer
                Kaka was left out too.
                but nasri is actually good
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                • bosigga
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-26-10
                  • 1312

                  #43
                  good at starting a ruckus apparently

                  Argentina left Tevez and Pastore out
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                  • THam12
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 03-12-13
                    • 12640

                    #44
                    Kaka was never gonna make the team. Come on now.
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                    • MakePwithMe
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 04-06-14
                      • 547

                      #45
                      England have a chance

                      England World Cup squad:


                      Goalkeepers: Joe Hart (Man City), Ben Foster (West Brom), Fraser Forster (Celtic).


                      Defenders: Glen Johnson (Liverpool), Phil Jones (Man Utd), Phil Jagielka (Everton), Gary Cahill (Chelsea), Chris Smalling (Man Utd), Leighton Baines (Everton), Luke Shaw (S'ton).


                      Midfielders: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal), Jack Wilshere (Arsenal), Jordan Henderson (Liverpool), Adam Lallana (S'ton), Raheem Sterling (Liverpool), Steven Gerrard (Liverpool), Frank Lampard (Chelsea), James Milner (Man City), Ross Barkley (Everton).


                      Forwards: Wayne Rooney (Man Utd), Daniel Sturridge (Liverpool), Danny Welbeck (Man Utd), Rickie Lambert (S'ton)


                      Stand-by list: John Ruddy (Norwich) John Flanagan (Liverpool), John Stones (Everton), Michael Carrick (Man Utd), Jermain Defoe (Toronto), Andy Carroll (West Ham), Tom Cleverley (Man Utd).


                      Look how good those young attackers are, think they will be a threat.
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                      • MakePwithMe
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 04-06-14
                        • 547

                        #46
                        Think this is a competitive first 11

                        Hart

                        Johnson Jagielka Cahill Baines

                        Henderson Gerrard Wilshere Milner

                        Sturridge Rooney

                        Shaw
                        Chamberlain
                        Barkley
                        Lallana
                        Welbeck
                        Sterling

                        Could do some damage off the bench.
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                        • pavyracer
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 04-12-07
                          • 82840

                          #47
                          What do you like about England's defense? This is very average defense. They have no chance against the big teams.
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                          • MakePwithMe
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 04-06-14
                            • 547

                            #48
                            Originally posted by pavyracer
                            What do you like about England's defense? This is very average defense. They have no chance against the big teams.
                            Well Johnson & Baines are really good fullbacks, Jagielka is solid so is Cahill as you can see with Chelsea, Smalling and Jones are two talented young players along with Shaw it isn't too bad, another thing to remember is they have Joe Hart behind them if hes injured then they have no chance.

                            The only thing that worries me is they don't have a defensive midfield player a anchorman type player maybe someone like Huddlestone or Carrick, I am sure Jones or Gerrard could do that job though.

                            I expect Englands defense to shine and at least reach the quarter finals, they might surprise a few people you know with that youthful armoury, look at the spine of the team: Hart - Cahill - Gerrard - Rooney - Sturridge that is a world class spine what ever the case, all about nerves & how they deal with the occasion.
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                            • SarahPalin
                              SBR MVP
                              • 11-26-13
                              • 1489

                              #49
                              imo rooney is a waste of a spot. hope if hes really shit coach subs him off asap i like england unreal that heskey didnt make the squad.
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                              • THam12
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 03-12-13
                                • 12640

                                #50
                                Originally posted by SarahPalin
                                imo rooney is a waste of a spot. hope if hes really shit coach subs him off asap i like england unreal that heskey didnt make the squad.
                                No.
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                                • Tpkpa
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 04-29-14
                                  • 14

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by SarahPalin
                                  but nasri is actually good
                                  Yes he is good, but act like a kids when he is on the bench. Very bad mentality, France is better without him.
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                                  • Vaughany
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 03-07-10
                                    • 45563

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by SarahPalin
                                    imo rooney is a waste of a spot. hope if hes really shit coach subs him off asap i like england unreal that heskey didnt make the squad.
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                                    • Vaughany
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 03-07-10
                                      • 45563

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by MakePwithMe
                                      Well Johnson & Baines are really good fullbacks, Jagielka is solid so is Cahill as you can see with Chelsea, Smalling and Jones are two talented young players along with Shaw it isn't too bad, another thing to remember is they have Joe Hart behind them if hes injured then they have no chance.

                                      The only thing that worries me is they don't have a defensive midfield player a anchorman type player maybe someone like Huddlestone or Carrick, I am sure Jones or Gerrard could do that job though.

                                      I expect Englands defense to shine and at least reach the quarter finals, they might surprise a few people you know with that youthful armoury, look at the spine of the team: Hart - Cahill - Gerrard - Rooney - Sturridge that is a world class spine what ever the case, all about nerves & how they deal with the occasion.
                                      Smalling is hopeless, one of the most erratic over-rated "prospects" in football. Glenn Johnson isnt good defensively. I dont disagree that their defense is any worse then some of the other big nations though like France, Italy, Portugal, Brazil. That's why anybody could win this world cup - nobody has a rock solid defense.
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                                      • Vaughany
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 03-07-10
                                        • 45563

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by bosigga
                                        good at starting a ruckus apparently

                                        Argentina left Tevez and Pastore out
                                        joke that Tevez didnt get in. Still superior to Higuain
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                                        • Vaughany
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 03-07-10
                                          • 45563

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by Big Bear
                                          i ask b/c from what i understand Spain is a very good defensive team while Argentina is explosive on offense...

                                          Spain seems to be clutch but obviously the atmosphere favors Argentina..

                                          Just curious who matches up better in a contrast of styles like this?
                                          que?
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                                          • Coach Potato
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 08-31-11
                                            • 4303

                                            #56
                                            Lol at people talking bout england. Wont even get out of the group
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                                            • Kros
                                              SBR Hustler
                                              • 12-20-13
                                              • 78

                                              #57
                                              Agree. Italy and Uruguay will take 1st and 2nd place.
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                                              • Big Bear
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 11-01-11
                                                • 43253

                                                #58
                                                Who all is taking Italy to win it all?
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                                                • onemoregoal
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 02-04-13
                                                  • 8149

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by SarahPalin
                                                  imo rooney is a waste of a spot. hope if hes really shit coach subs him off asap i like england unreal that heskey didnt make the squad.
                                                  superb trolling here ,Sarah
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                                                  • THam12
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 03-12-13
                                                    • 12640

                                                    #60
                                                    World cup is the best sporting event in the world.
                                                    I cannot wait.
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                                                    • Big Bear
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 11-01-11
                                                      • 43253

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by THam12
                                                      World cup is the best sporting event in the world.
                                                      I cannot wait.
                                                      yep. Going to fly out to Vegas and put 1K on a team to win it...

                                                      just can't decide who to pick.... trying to decide between Italy, Germany, Argentina, Uraguay, Columbia and Brazil.
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                                                      • Coach Potato
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 08-31-11
                                                        • 4303

                                                        #62
                                                        Maybe messi or aquero to be top scorer? They got an easy group n will be hyped up playing in their rivals turf n hoping to spoil their party
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