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  • James D
    SBR MVP
    • 01-03-13
    • 2040

    #106
    Originally posted by Mitchell88
    so when you are playing all the combos you just have to make sure that you don't overlap to hit the big one?

    Yes, if you hit it twice and those are only two winning tickets the only reasonable course of action is killing yourself.


    trytrytry is correct the final day may be madness LOL
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    • Mitchell88
      SBR MVP
      • 12-16-12
      • 4334

      #107
      lmao, seriously it is the only answer
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      • nvrlose37
        SBR MVP
        • 06-01-12
        • 2730

        #108
        Originally posted by balls2wall
        The only way the whole thing pays out is if only a single ticket hits. If multiple people hit then a percentage goes towards that days payout and the rest (larger %) is put back into the carryover.

        When it is hit 1 person will take the whole thing!!! cha ching
        Hold on, I believe the carryover is only used in situations where not all races are hit by at least one ticket. So a pick 6 with the highest winner being a 5/6 gets some of the pot split among all tickets with 5/6 and then they carryover.

        There could be 200 6/6 winners and they split the carryover it doesn't have to be only one ticket, that makes no sense
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        • JakeLc
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 02-20-11
          • 927

          #109
          the carryover is paid out when there is a single winning ticket
          on days with multiple winning tickets ( except mandatory payout days) 30% goes to the carryover and the rest gets split up among the winning tickets
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          • balls2wall
            SBR MVP
            • 12-20-09
            • 2642

            #110
            Originally posted by nvrlose37
            Hold on, I believe the carryover is only used in situations where not all races are hit by at least one ticket. So a pick 6 with the highest winner being a 5/6 gets some of the pot split among all tickets with 5/6 and then they carryover.

            There could be 200 6/6 winners and they split the carryover it doesn't have to be only one ticket, that makes no sense

            Jake is correct below your post.

            What you are saying is correct at most tracks (and here on p4s etc...). However, the Rainbow P6 at Gulfstream requires 1 single winning ticket to payout the entire pot, or on the last day of the meet it gets all paid out among all winners that day.
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            • balls2wall
              SBR MVP
              • 12-20-09
              • 2642

              #111
              If you go look at the results each day at Gulfstream you will see that it has probably been hit 6/6 each day, but the carryover keeps building because multiple people are hitting it each day
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              • balls2wall
                SBR MVP
                • 12-20-09
                • 2642

                #112
                Originally posted by James D
                Its brillaint isn't it balls2thewalls? Gulfstream came up with a great new wager
                Yes!! If more places would think this way it could only help the sport.

                I try to throw a few bucks at it each day
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                • James D
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-03-13
                  • 2040

                  #113
                  Originally posted by balls2wall
                  Yes!! If more places would think this way it could only help the sport.

                  I try to throw a few bucks at it each day
                  Today I have a busier day then planned so I am passing. However if it is not hit today guns will be blazing tomorrow. I will go very deep (500-1500)

                  So you are the only person I want to win it today LOL. Good luck.
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                  • BigdaddyQH
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 07-13-09
                    • 19530

                    #114
                    Gulfstream is the only track so far to offer this type of wager (Rainbow P6). When Del Mar starts in July, watch and see how many carryovers they have that exceed one million dollars in their Pick 6. TVG has it set up so that the First Race at Del Mar coincides with the Last Race at Saratoga, so the people wagering at the Spa can just keep watching and wager on the P6 and other wagers at Del Mar.
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                    • pulledclear
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 02-19-12
                      • 6684

                      #115
                      Is this the genius section?
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                      • JakeLc
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 02-20-11
                        • 927

                        #116
                        Sunland has it. I think there are a couple of others that have it.
                        Beulah started the wager but I don't think have it anymore.
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                        • oldmanTED
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 08-14-07
                          • 243

                          #117
                          Look it up, but I think the P6 was hit at Gulfstream with a single ticket, and 2 minutes after the race ended they put an inquiry sign up, and DQ'd the horse.Travesty.
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                          • JakeLc
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 02-20-11
                            • 927

                            #118
                            that was a single ticket winner that was DQed
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                            • mrginandtonic
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-11-09
                              • 7738

                              #119
                              Originally posted by oldmanTED
                              Look it up, but I think the P6 was hit at Gulfstream with a single ticket, and 2 minutes after the race ended they put an inquiry sign up, and DQ'd the horse.Travesty.
                              Really? How can we find if this is true?
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                              • Slimpickens
                                SBR MVP
                                • 10-28-12
                                • 2030

                                #120
                                Originally posted by mrginandtonic
                                Really? How can we find if this is true?
                                Oh it's true. Possibly the biggest injustice I have ever seen in over 15 years of betting horses.
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                                • James D
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-03-13
                                  • 2040

                                  #121
                                  Omg seriously? I was dead after race 4 so stopped watching
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                                  • oldmanTED
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 08-14-07
                                    • 243

                                    #122
                                    Travisty. Terrible. The poor guy was on T.V. excited thinking he made 1.3 million. I feel so bad for the gentleman
                                    He really deserved it. I can only think of one other person this would happen to. What's his name Brock Landers? or something.
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                                    • James D
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-03-13
                                      • 2040

                                      #123
                                      That is insane, feel horrible for the guy. If the Favorite in the 8th dylan ward, came 3rd beaten 2 lengths wins I have 6/6 on my ticket. I can't imagine how that guy feels ted. They interviewed him before the race was official?
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                                      • mrginandtonic
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 09-11-09
                                        • 7738

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by James D
                                        That is insane, feel horrible for the guy. If the Favorite in the 8th dylan ward, came 3rd beaten 2 lengths wins I have 6/6 on my ticket. I can't imagine how that guy feels ted. They interviewed him before the race was official?
                                        How did they interview him before it was official?? and that they were able to find him at the track?? I am really curious see that interview now. Is it on YouTube??
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                                        • jjgold
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-20-05
                                          • 388179

                                          #125
                                          If you go to a racetrack you will see the most pathetic people you have ever seen

                                          most broken down bums using paychecks every week instead of supporting family

                                          Its not an accepted form of gambling either
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                                          • cecil127
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 11-19-09
                                            • 7310

                                            #126
                                            but betting illegally offshore IS an "accepted" form of gambling around here...lucky for you, right coach? $$$$$$$
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                                            • jjgold
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 07-20-05
                                              • 388179

                                              #127
                                              Only accepted forms of gambling in usa are casinos, poker and stock market
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                                              • balls2wall
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 12-20-09
                                                • 2642

                                                #128
                                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                                Only accepted forms of gambling in usa are casinos, poker and stock market
                                                Don't forget lotteries. The gubment loves the lotteries, LOL. No problem with them, but we can't let you have fun trying to make a buck on something that actually takes a little skill and has a much better chance of winning.
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                                                • balls2wall
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 12-20-09
                                                  • 2642

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by James D
                                                  That is insane, feel horrible for the guy. If the Favorite in the 8th dylan ward, came 3rd beaten 2 lengths wins I have 6/6 on my ticket. I can't imagine how that guy feels ted. They interviewed him before the race was official?
                                                  I missed it, but from what I gathered reading tweets, it never should have been in question. I am assuming they figured it was a done deal.
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                                                  • balls2wall
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-20-09
                                                    • 2642

                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by balls2wall
                                                    I missed it, but from what I gathered reading tweets, it never should have been in question. I am assuming they figured it was a done deal.
                                                    Just now pulled up the replay. From the side view it didn't look bad, but when you see the front view the 12 comes way over, but it wasn't a sudden move

                                                    I can see why they did it, but I have seen much worse go unchanged
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                                                    • Mitchell88
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-16-12
                                                      • 4334

                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                                      If you go to a racetrack you will see the most pathetic people you have ever seen

                                                      most broken down bums using paychecks every week instead of supporting family

                                                      Its not an accepted form of gambling either
                                                      JJ didn't you say a couple weeks ago you were going to the track to pick up chicks!?
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                                                      • Vitothecapper
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 08-07-13
                                                        • 845

                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by James D
                                                        Yes, if you hit it twice and those are only two winning tickets the only reasonable course of action is killing yourself.


                                                        trytrytry is correct the final day may be madness LOL
                                                        Yeah suicide would be the only think to do.
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                                                        • jjgold
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 07-20-05
                                                          • 388179

                                                          #133
                                                          No chicks at track

                                                          At otb now actually

                                                          Originally posted by Mitchell88
                                                          JJ didn't you say a couple weeks ago you were going to the track to pick up chicks!?
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                                                          • sdtrader
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 01-23-09
                                                            • 536

                                                            #134
                                                            Is it possible to turn a profit with a rebate book? At racing2day they payout a 9% bonus on your winnings. I know the takeout is 15-20%, but does anyone have any strategies to turn a profit with a rebate?
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                                                            • davidchong
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 02-10-06
                                                              • 1806

                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by sdtrader
                                                              Is it possible to turn a profit with a rebate book? At racing2day they payout a 9% bonus on your winnings. I know the takeout is 15-20%, but does anyone have any strategies to turn a profit with a rebate?
                                                              Winnings or handle?
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                                                              • sdtrader
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 01-23-09
                                                                • 536

                                                                #136
                                                                9% bonus uplift on winnings from win wager
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