Is Dwight Howard the most overrated player in NBA history?

[7secondsOrLess]

Dwight has a hotass white gf though I'll give him that

[jsmithj88]

blake has improved and developed a mid range jumper
that changed everything, bc teams don't guard him from 14 feet out and dare him to shoot it
has been hitting them
is averaging 22 pts a game and 10 rebounds, he is fine

griffin is a non factor

[lunch]

top 5 defender in the league. needs to go to the tim duncan school of FTs

[face]

so if everything u said is true
why is still a star and not a superstar???????
hes definately being marketed as one, but the he definately is not one

nba has always had marketing strategies to make money
agree that some teams like the grizz can shut him down in the post and make him look a little soft, all i'm saying is that he has improved and puts forth the effort
some guys like lance stephenson most people never heard of go unnoticed bc they're on the pacers, it's all just marketing

[Ghenghis Kahn]

actually, its the smartest move hes made
the lakers are garbage

lakers will be fine. how much do you want to bet, the lakers will win another championship before houston?

[Ghenghis Kahn]

for those that are defending howard, just look as his numbers from his rookie years to now, there's no improvement. the guy has no drive to be better.

[jsmithj88]

nba has always had marketing strategies to make money
agree that some teams like the grizz can shut him down in the post and make him look a little soft, all i'm saying is that he has improved and puts forth the effort
some guys like lance stephenson most people never heard of go unnoticed bc they're on the pacers, it's all just marketing

he has the talent to be the best PF in the game
but hes a secondary thought right now
is any1 thinking about dumping the ball down low when the game is on the line?

nba is like the wwe when they are pushing these fraudulent superstars
they basically tried to turn griffin into one when they setup that dunk contest for him to win
that was prolly the corniest dunk to ever win a dunk contest

[ChalkyDog]

nba has always had marketing strategies to make money
agree that some teams like the grizz can shut him down in the post and make him look a little soft, all i'm saying is that he has improved and puts forth the effort
some guys like lance stephenson most people never heard of go unnoticed bc they're on the pacers, it's all just marketing

I don't watch much NBA, but Born Ready is a known commodity. Pacers are the best team in the league, IMO. Deepest for sure.

[jtoler]

Just shows alot of you are just haters and more than likely had Houston last night. Top 2 center in the league and nothing but hate, dont see you hating on any other player who's top 2 at their position other than Howard go figure.

[jtoler]

for those that are defending howard, just look as his numbers from his rookie years to now, there's no improvement. the guy has no drive to be better.

What does that mean? Nothing, he's a center, in today's game centers arnt number one options on any team, the game isnt like it used to be where you played it inside out and had centers who were fundamentally skilled. They ruined the game years ago with the high school kids being tought to just run up and down the court, 1 on 1, not focusing on big men so they dont develop skill wise. And his numbers have improved from his rookie year he only gets 11 shots average over his career and still gets you 18 despite being a very poor FT shooter, but haters gonna hate.

[Menses]

What does that mean? Nothing, he's a center, in today's game centers arnt number one options on any team, the game isnt like it used to be where you played it inside out and had centers who were fundamentally skilled. They ruined the game years ago with the high school kids being tought to just run up and down the court, 1 on 1, not focusing on big men so they dont develop skill wise. And his numbers have improved from his rookie year he only gets 11 shots average over his career and still gets you 18 despite being a very poor FT shooter, but haters gonna hate.

Finally someone gets it....nobody plays the game inside out anymore...Dwight is averaging 11.3 touches a game....Shaq averaged 19 touches in Orlando and LA....why? Because he had a coach who didn't give a shit who his all star shooting guard was...the TRIANGLE was run through Shaq and Shaq only...no matter how much Kobe bitched....Soft guys like McHale dun have the balls to tell 85 million no defense playing bitches like Harden that whats best for the team is the inside out approach...

Tell me..why is a 7 footer being asked to set screens for a guard? LOL.......Dwight must improve his free throws....but outside of that...he is doing his job....the problem is...McHale does not have the balls to tell Harden and Parsons...that the offense will be run through Dwight for certain portions of the game....several times this year...a few when harden was out...Mchale said fuc it...and ran it all through Dwight......every time Dwight had 30 plus pts and 15 plus rebounds...nobody said a peep......

Yes Dwight has too many damn baby mamas....but this narrative about him not being the man and being scared is growing OLD.....it is obvious to anyone who has watched basketball during the Shaq and Olujuwan era....he is not being FED....these coaches no longer run the offense through the 5.....as a result the league is full of andre Jordans....who get highlights but can't dominate games....and the REFS blow the whistle...the minute Dwight looks at someone.....

If the REFS blew the whistle during Shaq's era the way they do now....Shaq would have fouled out of every game he ever played...this NBA rigged shit is a joke...Houston and Golden State exist to shoot 3's..and placate the fans... cuz chicks dig the long ball......hard fouls, and centers dominating the paint...naw thats too boring for the casual fans of the NBA....they have destroyed the game by allowing these bitchmade pussy cute no defense playing guards shooting the ball with no regard for teammates ..and dribbling out the clock.....just so ESPN can get highlights of Austin Rivers literally falling out of the game like Mario and Luigi...Shit is getting way out of hand....

[Ghenghis Kahn]

Just shows alot of you are just haters and more than likely had Houston last night. Top 2 center in the league and nothing but hate, dont see you hating on any other player who's top 2 at their position other than Howard go figure.

hating? numbers don't lie pal. check his numbers and come back to this thread. look at all the great players from their rookie year to their prime. their numbers improve dramatically. dwight howard, not so much...

[Ghenghis Kahn]

What does that mean? Nothing, he's a center, in today's game centers arnt number one options on any team, the game isnt like it used to be where you played it inside out and had centers who were fundamentally skilled. They ruined the game years ago with the high school kids being tought to just run up and down the court, 1 on 1, not focusing on big men so they dont develop skill wise. And his numbers have improved from his rookie year he only gets 11 shots average over his career and still gets you 18 despite being a very poor FT shooter, but haters gonna hate.

like i said, he doesn't have the desire to be great.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

also, did you know dwight howard had the highest ft % in his rookie year and keeps dropping? what does that tell you. he's a lazy bum that doesn't practice fts.

[jtoler]

Genghis youre not making a point nor can refute anything said, thing is people sometimes like to single out a guy and then the others jump on the bangwagon without thinking for themselves and actually looking at the picture closely. Again Howard shoots the ball on average 11 times and gets 18, just think if he got to shoot it 20 times? Youre bringing up FT's who cares, he is what he is, has nothing to do with practice, it has to do with his hand size and just not having the touch of a shooter. Some guys are just like that like Shaq was, hands too big and not having touch thats all it is.

[riffraff24]

whats overrated about him, he just about dominates on a nightly basis.

lmao

[riffraff24]

Dwight has a hotass white gf though I'll give him that

White?

[GoBlue77]

K thats one and probably the only one which is why I dont see why Howard gets so much hate.

he is a quitter, complainer, hasn't improved his offensive game over the years, a liability in the 4th qrtr, has no heart, takes plays off. guy is average at best man.

[PAYTON20]

Man too many Howard apologists here.

comparing Shaq and Olajuwon's post game to Howard's is an embarrassment. Not even clclose

the reason the coach pulls Howard out to screen and roll is because he has no offensive game. He will either miss a hook or bank shot, or get fouled and missed FTs. He's so big standing there in the middle that he clogs up the lane so the other players can't drive to the hoop. He's a major liability on offense

shaq was so much more dominant and skilled on the offensive end than Howard, please never make a comparison like that

[Ghenghis Kahn]

Genghis youre not making a point nor can refute anything said, thing is people sometimes like to single out a guy and then the others jump on the bangwagon without thinking for themselves and actually looking at the picture closely. Again Howard shoots the ball on average 11 times and gets 18, just think if he got to shoot it 20 times? Youre bringing up FT's who cares, he is what he is, has nothing to do with practice, it has to do with his hand size and just not having the touch of a shooter. Some guys are just like that like Shaq was, hands too big and not having touch thats all it is.

i knew you were gonna bring up shaq, shaq broke his wrist as a kid and never regained full motion on his shooting hand. dwight on the other hand is just lazy. shooting is all about muscle memory and repetition, especially free throws. if he shot, 1000 fts a day, i guarantee he'll shoot at least in the 70% range. it would surprise me if he shot 100 fts a day.

why do you think the game has changed? it's because there are no dominant big man at the moment. you're bring up the fact that howard only touches the ball 18 times per game and averages 11 shots. that's because he isn't a dominant force.

do you think, for example, if a team had shaq or hakeem today in their primes would only let them touch 18 times per game and shoot 11 times? they would feed them the ball over and over because shaq and hakeem would be unstoppable.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

Man too many Howard apologists here.

comparing Shaq and Olajuwon's post game to Howard's is an embarrassment. Not even clclose

the reason the coach pulls Howard out to screen and roll is because he has no offensive game. He will either miss a hook or bank shot, or get fouled and missed FTs. He's so big standing there in the middle that he clogs up the lane so the other players can't drive to the hoop. He's a major liability on offense

shaq was so much more dominant and skilled on the offensive end than Howard, please never make a comparison like that

it's probably young kids that's never seen dominant big man before.

[imadegen]

he's like melo imo. has the physical talents but just isn't a born leader. that's what seperates the greats from the good. lebron and kobe have the desire to be legends, howard doesn't have that drive.

[jtoler]

i knew you were gonna bring up shaq, shaq broke his wrist as a kid and never regained full motion on his shooting hand. dwight on the other hand is just lazy. shooting is all about muscle memory and repetition, especially free throws. if he shot, 1000 fts a day, i guarantee he'll shoot at least in the 70% range. it would surprise me if he shot 100 fts a day.

why do you think the game has changed? it's because there are no dominant big man at the moment. you're bring up the fact that howard only touches the ball 18 times per game and averages 11 shots. that's because he isn't a dominant force.

do you think, for example, if a team had shaq or hakeem today in their primes would only let them touch 18 times per game and shoot 11 times? they would feed them the ball over and over because shaq and hakeem would be unstoppable.

Howard's a chiseled, strong guy, you dont find guys built like him with touch, despite his freakish growth spurt of over a foot in a year's time during his teens Id say complaining about FT's is a reach. Wilt sucked at shooting FT's too, again the game isnt played inside out anymore.

[jtoler]

Man too many Howard apologists here.

comparing Shaq and Olajuwon's post game to Howard's is an embarrassment. Not even clclose

the reason the coach pulls Howard out to screen and roll is because he has no offensive game. He will either miss a hook or bank shot, or get fouled and missed FTs. He's so big standing there in the middle that he clogs up the lane so the other players can't drive to the hoop. He's a major liability on offense

shaq was so much more dominant and skilled on the offensive end than Howard, please never make a comparison like that

Shaq's "post" game?

[GoBlue77]

Shaq's "post" game?

shaq is a hall of famer, he played deep in the post and had a lethal post game. you seem lost and confused.

[jtoler]

shaq is a hall of famer, he played deep in the post and had a lethal post game. you seem lost and confused.

Bullying and backing his way down to the paint during his L.A. days, no touch, too strong. His "post" game was really a sight for sore eyes during his L.A. tenure, he scored because of his size, wasnt anything pretty.

[Luv2Play2]

SHAQ!!!! simple ...ENDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[lunch]

Derrick Rose most overrated of all time

[Ghenghis Kahn]

Howard's a chiseled, strong guy, you dont find guys built like him with touch, despite his freakish growth spurt of over a foot in a year's time during his teens Id say complaining about FT's is a reach. Wilt sucked at shooting FT's too, again the game isnt played inside out anymore.

lol chiseled and strong guys don't have touch because they refuse to practice shooting.

if howard wanted to become great he has the physical skills to become a great center.

think about it, he can take couple summers learning all the moves from hakeem and mchale.

but he won't because ultimately, he's complacent...

[jtoler]

lol chiseled and strong guys don't have touch because they refuse to practice shooting.

if howard wanted to become great he has the physical skills to become a great center.

think about it, he can take couple summers learning all the moves from hakeem and mchale.

but he won't because ultimately, he's complacent...

You act as if Hakeem and Mchale havent already helped him, they have, Ive seen Howard display nice moves this year, but again people just want to hate. Hey Melo also has gotten alot of teaching from Hakeem yet I havent seen Melo do any better in the post. Like I said Howard DOMINATES most nights and when he gets ample shots he really dominates, but people are gonna hate regardless. I just dont think many know the game here or just arnt watching. Did you see him dominate in Portland earlier this year when he got ample touches, when he gets enough shots he's gonna produce.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

yeah it's the management that's keeping howard down...

[jtoler]

yeah it's the management that's keeping howard down...

K now I see the problem there is obviously a language barrier here, you must not be American, who said anything about management keeping him down, this explains why youre always responding with something different than what I said.

[Naz18]

He's one of the best centers in the game. People expected him to be the next Shaq, but those expectations were too high.

[Luv2Play2]

You act as if Hakeem and Mchale havent already helped him, they have, Ive seen Howard display nice moves this year, but again people just want to hate. Hey Melo also has gotten alot of teaching from Hakeem yet I havent seen Melo do any better in the post. Like I said Howard DOMINATES most nights and when he gets ample shots he really dominates, but people are gonna hate regardless. I just dont think many know the game here or just arnt watching. Did you see him dominate in Portland earlier this year when he got ample touches, when he gets enough shots he's gonna produce.

SHAQ AND DWIGHT have interior moves ..BUT IF YA CANT MAKE A FT U SUXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX..

[TwoWays]

griffin is a stud...has a post up game, developed a mid range jumper, can play above the rim...and still very young. guy is a key piece to any team looking to build a team around. that's why so many people scoffed at the melo for griffin trade...griffin is younger, still has a lot of room for growth, and has showcased many skills already.