On Sunday night we find out once and for all if the NFL REFS fix games

[Big Bear]

Aight boys

if Patriots +3 covers vs Denver the NFL is fixed. Will everyone agree with that?

Patriots just got screwed royally by the referees on MNF.

The NFL owes the Patriots one now.


Public will be ALL OVER Broncos -3 here, i guarantee you that.


Some shady shit will happen if needed and Patriots cover the 3 points next week.

Now the Broncos are obviously a better football team. there is no denying that
and the Broncos should be able to score at will vs this Patriots defense.

But lets see what happens...

Patriots cover the 3 or i don't bet again until 2014

[tony_come]

Big game

[Vegas39]

Yes as you're so truthful and stick to what you say

This is my last post in Players talk.


Sub Forums only for me now.

[No coincidences]

You're delving way too deep.

[jjgold]

Any crying fix has about an 8th grade mentality in any pro sport

[bubblebuttluv]

A big part of this whole thing is if DeMaryius Thomas and Wes Welker are playing.

In this game, featuring the two best QB's in the game, you can get by without Welker (just have Decker carry more of the load), but Thomas out would be a killer.

Brady is very pissed and that is never a good sign for the other team.

Also, I think where as the Broncos offense is better than the Pats (though not by much), the Pats defense is better than the Broncos. Rodgers-Chromartie may have played his best game this last Sunday, he usually does some dumb shit at a big moment and I think he will revert back to that and you can't do that against Brady.

Also Pats at home is almost like Duke at home when it comes to them getting calls.

I'm waiting for the injury reports.

[Huckleberry Pig]

if it were truly fixed a flag never would have been thrown in the first place.

[Big Bear]

Any crying fix has about an 8th grade mentality in any pro sport

Hey John what about Tim Donaghy?

John there are others out there that just don't get caught

[Big Bear]

if it were truly fixed a flag never would have been thrown in the first place.

the dude that threw the flag was quickly corrected by the ref that
"had the instructions"

[blankoblanco]

Broncos have won with ease at home this year but haven't been overly impressive on the road. I don't think it's far-fetched for them to lose a primetime game at NE without it being fixed

Plus, as mentioned, Welker and Julius Thomas are both questionable to play

[Sam Odom]

decent angle

[orisbumplut]

If the refs screw up calls and fix the game in favor of the Pats, it isn't because they feel bad because they screwed the Pats in Carolina, it is because the money in Vegas will be on Denver and as favor to Vegas, the refs will do their job and make Vegas happy.

[2daBank]

just tease pats up and be happy,, anytime you can take 6 points and get pats + more than a td you do it, then you dont have to worry about whatever conspiracy you stressing on. no matter what you think is going on pats aint losing by more than 7, not last night, not next week, not often..

[44 Mag]

Aight boys

if Patriots +3 covers vs Denver the NFL is fixed. Will everyone agree with that?

Patriots just got screwed royally by the referees on MNF.

The NFL owes the Patriots one now.


Public will be ALL OVER Broncos -3 here, i guarantee you that.


Some shady shit will happen if needed and Patriots cover the 3 points next week.

Now the Broncos are obviously a better football team. there is no denying that
and the Broncos should be able to score at will vs this Patriots defense.

But lets see what happens...

Patriots cover the 3 or i don't bet again until 2014

Hate to say it, but don't think the Pats can keep up with the Denver offense. IF Welker plays, he will have a huge chip against Belicheck and Manning to. All those years of Belicheck being in his head. I can see the Pats losing two in a row, then running the table with a very weak schedule and still winding up with just 4 losses, good enough to make the playoffs. They won't go anywhere though. This will be year 10 since a super bowl victory.

[Big Bear]

yeah no doubt Broncos are a better team.

i'm sure many bettors will also be using the
Welker is coming back for revenge angle

[thebestthereis]

patriots don't lose at home, manning chokes here obviously, sunday afternoon tailgate new england drunkard mania (i know i live there), denver road woes continue, brady goes off style. good luck those on denver you will need ref action again after a ref debacle. welker is pissed so denver wins easy

[GoBlue23]

Yes as you're so truthful and stick to what you say

He already made one of these win or I'll never post again under the poster name Icehouse

Of the tag Big Bear was birthed 2-3 days after the game lost

Anyways...NE is an auto no bet now

[44 Mag]

yeah no doubt Broncos are a better team.

i'm sure many bettors will also be using the
Welker is coming back for revenge angle

Broncos are the better team, and Brady has not been himself this year. I agree bad call by the ref's, but truth be known if the Pats played up to potential, it never should have come down to that. they've been lucky all year. Welker hates Belichick!!!

[Big Bear]

Broncos are the better team, and Brady has not been himself this year. I agree bad call by the ref's, but truth be known if the Pats played up to potential, it never should have come down to that. they've been lucky all year. Welker hates Belichick!!!

Panthers had so many 3rd down conversions last night, very frustrating

[Vegas39]

He already made one of these win or I'll never post again under the poster name Icehouse

Of the tag Big Bear was birthed 2-3 days after the game lost

Anyways...NE is an auto no bet now

This isn't shocking at all

[2daBank]

Panthers had so many 3rd down conversions last night, very frustrating

not exactly surprising, pats are 29th allowing over 42% conversion rate, and dead last over their last 3 games allowing over 50%, while panthers have the highest conversion percentage in the league, number 2? broncos..

[You mad bro]

bear thought you were sticking to the sub forums on sbr

[konck]

Any crying fix has about an 8th grade mentality in any pro sport

When you think like that your a loserWhen the human element is involved there will be cheating

[Big Bear]

not exactly surprising, pats are 29th allowing over 42% conversion rate, and dead last over their last 3 games allowing over 50%, while panthers have the highest conversion percentage in the league, number 2? broncos..

i think Cam had like 56 yards rushing on 3rd down alone.

Patriots defense was pathetic last night.

Maybe the most rediculous thing i saw was Patriots throwing the ball away on 3rd and 1 and then kicking a field goal.

They should ran the ball and gone for it on 4th down if needed

[sneakerhead]

We don't really care if you don't bet till 2014

[Petey Wheatstraw]

We found out last night, NE at Carolina, didn't we?
Picked up flag.

And......

We will find out Sunday 11/24/13 at 4:25 > Dallas at NY <
The bias will be with the NYG, definitely.
Why?
2 reasons;> 1) The NY NFL market. 2) The wanting of the NFL to keep the Giants in the hunt for the NFC East title. 4 in a row to 5, great storyline. WATCH for the FIXATION.

And................

Referee nig Boger> Always biased and leaning the flags towards the Las Vegas angled desire.
Do not know the ref assignments for Week 12 yet, but would not be shocked to see Boger there in the Big Apple, or aka Jersey gIant stadium.

Watch.

TRUTH.

[Big Bear]

We found out last night, NE at Carolina, didn't we?
Picked up flag.

And......

We will find out Sunday 11/24/13 at 4:25 > Dallas at NY <
The bias will be with the NYG, definitely.
Why?
2 reasons;> 1) The NY NFL market. 2) The wanting of the NFL to keep the Giants in the hunt for the NFC East title. 4 in a row to 5, great storyline. WATCH for the FIXATION.

And................

Referee nig Boger> Always biased and leaning the flags towards the Las Vegas angled desire.
Do not know the ref assignments for Week 12 yet, but would not be shocked to see Boger there in the Big Apple, or aka Jersey gIant stadium.

Watch.

TRUTH.

nice post.

Maybe we should have a weekly "spot the fix thread"

[NittanyLionsFan]

The public will not be on Denver -3 lol, nor is that the right play. You mke that statement as a clueless fkn moron, and you don't even realise it. Get a clue, then post. Until then stay the fk off the forum pal.

[SteveRyan]

The public will not be on Denver -3 lol, nor is that the right play. You mke that statement as a clueless fkn moron, and you don't even realise it. Get a clue, then post. Until then stay the fk off the forum pal.

Rude, but correct. Too many NE fans out there all stoked because they get 3 points in Foxborough.

I know it's only Tuesday, but 70% is on NE +3.

If there's a fix, it wont go in New Englands favor....

[Nick Papageorgio]

Big bear gonna cry that the snow was fake. "Rigged"

[ChalkyDog]

Every league has had a game fixed, either by players or officials.

[CDMKMP]

patriots don't lose at home, manning chokes here obviously, sunday afternoon tailgate new england drunkard mania (i know i live there), denver road woes continue, brady goes off style. good luck those on denver you will need ref action again after a ref debacle. welker is pissed so denver wins easy

yeah and yesterday the go-to angle was "BRADY WILL NOT LOSE ON MONDAY NIGHT!"

How bout judging this shit on matchups and strengths/weaknesses rather than whatever fairy tales fit your bias

Denver's D is far superior to the Patriots, even when the Pats had an extra week for Carolina.

If Denver can get it done vs a stingy KC D they will probably take New England's apart.

[Noleafclover]

How bout I flip a coin. If it comes up heads, the NFL's fixed. P fair

[captrobey]

I had the Over so of course i was not happy. But the way the 1st Half ended made no sense either. Pats had 2 TOs and over 30 secs left After they got the sack on 2nd down . Car was on their 14 at the time. So a TO and another stop would have forced a kick from their own End Zone and have given them at least a couple shots to get in FG range or maybe more if it was a bad kick. Instead they just let time run out. I had O/U for game but i wonder what it was for 1st Half.

[Big Bear]

Rude, but correct. Too many NE fans out there all stoked because they get 3 points in Foxborough.

I know it's only Tuesday, but 70% is on NE +3.

If there's a fix, it wont go in New Englands favor....

yeah that is shocking to me but you are right. Most bets are coming in on Patriots
that could change but it usually does not.

usually the public over reacts from week to week.

obviously if public is on Patriots then Broncos are easy money