lakers should tell kobe to get lost

[747planes]

team doing decent without his cancer ass. he is gonna come in and take 90 shots a night and they will lose 60% of the games he plays. right now no cancer and team listening to dantoni

cancers don;t go away easily. you are a cancer to sbr but you are still here.

[PAULYPOKER]

Ratzz is an extremely intelligent man...........

[greenhippo]

team doing decent without his cancer ass. he is gonna come in and take 90 shots a night and they will lose 60% of the games he plays. right now no cancer and team listening to dantoni

They've lost 57% of the games they've played so far without him.

[gauchojake]

Ratzz is an extremely intelligent man...........

Im not even sure how ratzz figured out how to turn on his computer let alone connect to the internet and type words on a forum.

[zsr]

Kobe has never been a "superstar" and he isn't going to be after coming back from this either. He's going to come back, score 30 on 40% shooting like he always does, play zero defense like he has the past 4 years, and his nut huggers are going to go nuts over how, "BRO hes scoring 30 BRO! PTS are all that matter BRO!!" as usual. Arguing with Kobe fans is a losing proposition. Advanced stats show he isnt anywhere close to being top 15 all time, but they will always say, "RINGZZZZZZZZZZZ". Just a waste of time.

[Sarunas]

2ways people in la are mostly rich or broke and all dumb. they will pay anything to tell there best friend the next day they had a piece of dyan cannons popcorn fall on there nutsack. 2ways i have been thru la man times. its a shitty dirty latino infested pit like most of cali.

[gauchojake]

Kobe has never been a "superstar" and he isn't going to be after coming back from this either. He's going to come back, score 30 on 40% shooting like he always does, play zero defense like he has the past 4 years, and his nut huggers are going to go nuts over how, "BRO hes scoring 30 BRO! PTS are all that matter BRO!!" as usual. Arguing with Kobe fans is a losing proposition. Advanced stats show he isnt anywhere close to being top 15 all time, but they will always say, "RINGZZZZZZZZZZZ". Just a waste of time.

Are you clinically retarded? Name a bigger superstar over the past 15 years who has produced the results (ie championships) that kobe has. You can't because that person doesn't exist.

Funny enough I actually agree with LB that Kobe would be bad for the current roster and I think signing him for more than 10 MM a year is a bad move.

[Ratzz]

Ratzz is an extremely intelligent man...........

i thank you, Pauly.

You are the very best... No Question!

[zsr]

Are you clinically retarded? Name a bigger superstar over the past 15 years who has produced the results (ie championships) that kobe has. You can't because that person doesn't exist.

Funny enough I actually agree with LB that Kobe would be bad for the current roster and I think signing him for more than 10 MM a year is a bad move.

Are you clinically retarded? He hasn't put up numbers anywhere close to Lebron, KD, Shaq, etc, etc. His rings have been because he fell ass backwards into a fantastic situation and somehow got a reputation for being clutch even though he shoots 35 percent in the last 2 mins or less. LOL. Oh, sorry, you don't care about the actual facts, just "RINGZZZZZZZZ". He's a top 20 player all time. Nothing more, nothing less. As advanced stats show

[KennyM10]

Lakerboy I always wondered who is the biggest loser on this forum u or jj?

[crustyme]

Are you clinically retarded? He hasn't put up numbers anywhere close to Lebron, KD, Shaq, etc, etc. His rings have been because he fell ass backwards into a fantastic situation and somehow got a reputation for being clutch even though he shoots 35 percent in the last 2 mins or less. LOL. Oh, sorry, you don't care about the actual facts, just "RINGZZZZZZZZ". He's a top 20 player all time. Nothing more, nothing less. As advanced stats show

zsr must stand for zero sports rationale... cause this moron is the biggest clueless idiot i have ever met on here (i give lakerboy a pass cause he's a hindu and knows nothing about american sports).

has jordan or lebron hit 6 game winners in a single season (nba record)? kobe has...

28 career game winners, more than jordan's 25....

has jordan or lebron scored 81 pts in a single game?
has jordan or lebron scored 62 pts after just 3 quarters outscoring the opponent single-handedly?
has jordan or lebron scored 50 pts in 4 consecutive games?
has lebron scored 40 pts or more in 9 consecutive games (tied with jordan)?

kobe....

-youngest to score 31,000 pts
-most 3s made in a single game with 12 (nba record)
-most all-nba 1st team honors (nba record)
-most all-defensive 1st team honors (nba record)
-only player in nba history to score 600 pts or more in 3 consecutive post seasons
-5 rings and 7 finals appearances
-2 finals mvps
-35ppg in 2005-6 (second highest since 1975)

kobe not elite? you're a fuking moron.

but then again, you're the same clueless idiot who claimed carson palmer was finished after his "career ending elbow injury"..... yet he threw for 4,000 yds and 22 tds in 14 full games last season. lol

same idiot who laughed at me when i posted numerous betting slips showing thousands of dollars. same brokedik who has never posted a single betting slip and bets 6-7 pts a day hoping to hit it big at the free casino.

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cant make this shit up.

lol

[Menses]

Crustyme ladies and gents is a KOBE-TARD..........we define this as a Kobe fan who has bought into the narrative that Kobe Bryant is an all time great worthy of being put into the top ten. The Amount of points he has scored is of no consequence to this discussion given that he is about to become THE ALL TIME LEADER IN MISSED SHOTS....he is a VOLUME SCORER.....the season he scored 81 points in a game is also the season he was bounced from the playoffs in the 1st round....Why? BECAUSE HE TOOK TOO MANY DAMN SHOTS....You cannot be considered a top ten all time great when you have been a liability to your teams success the way he has....If Divac was not traded, you would have never heard of Kobe Bryant...

KOBE BRYANT IS NOTHING MORE THAN A GLORIFIED VINCE CARTER......WHO RODE SHAQ, GASOL AND PHIL JACKSON TO 5 RINGS....He is in the Top 20 all time BUT HE IS NOT IN THE TOP TEN....LETS GO BACK TO THE DECADE OF 2000 AND REPLACE KOBE BRYANT WITH ANY ONE OF THE TOP TEN SCORERS/PLAYERS OF THAT ERA...

DWAYNE WADE
TRACEY MCGRADY
JERRY STACKHOUSE
VINCE CARTER
JASON KIDD
ALLEN IVERSON
PAUL PIERCE
DIRK NOWITZSKI

AND ASK YOURSELF IF THE LAKERS WOULD NOT HAVE WON CHAMPIONSHIPS? OF COURSE THEY WOULD....Kobe is replaceable....Shaq is not...he scored a ton of points by excluding his teamates from the offense after Shaq left...BUT HE COULD NOT WIN A RING UNTIL SHAQ WAS REPLACED BY GASOL AND BYNUM...and Phil CAME BACK AFTER KOBE HAD HIM FIRED....

If Kobe Bryant had spent his career playing for the Raptors, the Rockets, the Bulls or the Pacers...he would be one of those guys that we say "GREAT PLAYER BUT HE NEVER WON A RING...CUZ HE WAS PLAYING ON BAD TEAMS".......so why is it then THAT KOBE-TARDS seem to forget this when talking about KOBE AS AN ELITE PLAYER..because he has 5 RINGS? Not one of those rings belong to him...he earned them as a MEMBER OF A GREAT TEAM....not as a dominant player who lifted his team to a championship....PHIL Jackson won IN SPITE of Kobe...not BECAUSE.......

[crustyme]

Crustyme ladies and gents is a KOBE-TARD..........we define this as a Kobe fan who has bought into the narrative that Kobe Bryant is an all time great worthy of being put into the top ten. The Amount of points he has scored is of no consequence to this discussion given that he is about to become THE ALL TIME LEADER IN MISSED SHOTS....he is a VOLUME SCORER.....the season he scored 81 points in a game is also the season he was bounced from the playoffs in the 1st round....Why? BECAUSE HE TOOK TOO MANY DAMN SHOTS....You cannot be considered a top ten all time great when you have been a liability to your teams success the way he has....If Divac was not traded, you would have never heard of Kobe Bryant...

KOBE BRYANT IS NOTHING MORE THAN A GLORIFIED VINCE CARTER......WHO RODE SHAQ, GASOL AND PHIL JACKSON TO 5 RINGS....He is in the Top 20 all time BUT HE IS NOT IN THE TOP TEN....LETS GO BACK TO THE DECADE OF 2000 AND REPLACE KOBE BRYANT WITH ANY ONE OF THE TOP TEN SCORERS/PLAYERS OF THAT ERA...

DWAYNE WADE
TRACEY MCGRADY
JERRY STACKHOUSE
VINCE CARTER
JASON KIDD
ALLEN IVERSON
PAUL PIERCE
DIRK NOWITZSKI

AND ASK YOURSELF IF THE LAKERS WOULD NOT HAVE WON CHAMPIONSHIPS? OF COURSE THEY WOULD....Kobe is replaceable....Shaq is not...he scored a ton of points my excluding his teamates from the offense after Shaq left...BUT HE COULD NOT WIN A RING UNTIL SHAQ WAS REPLACED BY GASOL AND BYNUM...and Phil CAME BACK AFTER KOBE HAD HIM FIRED....

If Kobe Bryant had spent his career playing for the Raptors, the Rockets, the Bulls or the Pacers...he would be one of those guys that we say "GREAT PLAYER BUT HE NEVER WON A RING...CUZ HE WAS PLAYING ON BAD TEAMS".......so why is it then THAT KOBE-TARDS seem to forget this when talking about KOBE AS AN ELITE PLAYER..because he has 5 RINGS? Not one of those rings belong to him...he earned them as a MEMBER OF A GREAT TEAM....not as a dominant player who lifted his team to a championship....PHIL Jackson won IN SPITE of Kobe...not BECAUSE.......

i was wrong.... this moron takes the cake as the biggest idiot of all time.

lol

how many rings did shaq win before joining lakers? 0

how many playoff games did gasol win before joining lakers? 0

DWAYNE WADE
TRACEY MCGRADY
JERRY STACKHOUSE
VINCE CARTER
JASON KIDD
ALLEN IVERSON
PAUL PIERCE
DIRK NOWITZSKI

lol

you have singlehandedly wrapped up the biggest idiot of the year with this post.

congrats.

lol

[Ratzz]

Kobe wins a single League MVP in 17 yrs.

that's NOT elite...

Kobe-Tard fans compile game winner videos, becoz Kobe is their drug.
I can assure you there are dozens more game losing bricks.. that have not been
compiled in a video.

Elite players DO NOT SHOOT 6-24 in a Game 7.

Elite scorer. Yes.
Elite Player. No

You must function within a system... the clock will not tell accurate time if the cogs
do not work in unison. Kobe ability to take over a game, obfuscated this flaw. The instant his abilities
diminished in any way.. it all surfaced.

Kobe is a stat chaser who rode the coattails of Shaq.
If Kobe was an elite player he would have been shut-out 0-3 in MVP Finals awards.

it is that fact that he was Shut-OUT.. that he chased Shaq away.
He also chased away Phil, because Phil would not kiss his ass.

Kobe was so bad, the Lakers had to pay Phil $10 MILLION a season
just to tolerate coaching him again.

They had to beg him to coach Kobe again.

If Kobe is elite, why does Jackson continuously call him out for LACK OF LEADERSHIP?

[hotelis]

for me personally it is difficult to take Kobe's GREATNESS for granted. He is Great with an asterisk. Great*. Basketball is a team game, Lakers right now benefit from Kobe's absence. No ball movement, stand still-while watching-kobe-play, kills team spirit, team game. Everybody should be kept "happy", get enough touches. Take Kobes 25 FGA in a game, divide it by 5. That means 5 more shots for 5 players. Might even be more quality shots. Gotta love teams, not players.

[PAULYPOKER]

You have got to remember, you are talkin bout LA fans here..........

Not enough IQ level in ALL of them combined to reach the three digit mark.....

[ChiLLx]

If Lakers were smart they'd trade Kobe to some shit team for draft picks. Then he can spend his last 2 years ruining the chemistry on some other team while the Lakers grab a top 10 pick and sign Lebron or Carmelo.

[Goat Milk]

Did you guys know that Gasol got swept 3 years in a row in the playoffs before joining Bryant? 0-12 in the playoffs I'm pretty sure.

Get a clue.

Bryant most defensive first teams in nba history.

Jordan also said that no one is on his level except Kobe. Has said it many times, in many different ways.

So the rest of our opinions don't matter. Jordan's opinion is the only one that matters in this matter.

Much thanks.

[Menses]

i was wrong.... this moron takes the cake as the biggest idiot of all time.

lol

how many rings did shaq win before joining lakers? 0

how many playoff games did gasol win before joining lakers? 0

DWAYNE WADE
TRACEY MCGRADY
JERRY STACKHOUSE
VINCE CARTER
JASON KIDD
ALLEN IVERSON
PAUL PIERCE
DIRK NOWITZSKI

lol

you have singlehandedly wrapped up the biggest idiot of the year with this post.

congrats.

lol

Did Kobe Miss the Playoffs the year Shaq Left? YES

Did Kobe gets bounced out of the playoffs in 06 and 07? - YES

DOES KOBE NEED THE MOST DOMINANT FRONT COURT IN BASKETBALL TO WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS? YES

YOU SIR ARE A KOBE-TARD........WELCOME TO YOUR DE-PROGRAMMING....THE FIRST STEP IS ADMITTING YOU HAVE A PROBLEM...YOU HAVE NOW TAKEN THE FIRST STEP TO RECOVERY..KOBE ADDICTION IS NOT A DEATH SENTENCE...THERE IS HOPE!!

[Goat Milk]

Did Kobe Miss the Playoffs the year Shaq Left? YES Check roster. Did Shaq make the playoffs the year Wade got hurt after the finals? Nope. Worst team in the NBA with the loss of D Wade? Yup.

Did Kobe gets bounced out of the playoffs in 06 and 07? - YES Worst playoff team in nba history. Cited by many critics. They almost beat the 1 seed that year I'm pretty sure?

DOES KOBE NEED THE MOST DOMINANT FRONT COURT IN BASKETBALL TO WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS? YES Nope. Bryant won 2 rings with Gasol--who got swept three years in a row in the playoffs--and an Andrew Bynum that can't even start on one of the worst teams in the East.

YOU SIR ARE A KOBE-TARD........WELCOME TO YOUR DE-PROGRAMMING....THE FIRST STEP IS ADMITTING YOU HAVE A PROBLEM....I'M HERE FOR YOU!!

Refuted all your points. Try again. You can't win this debate versus me. Sorry Menses.

[Menses]

PHIL SPEAKS ON THE TRUTH ABOUT KOBE VS JORDAN (THE REAL ELITE PLAYER)

REPLACE KOBE WITH JORDAN AND THE 2012-2013 LAKERS PROBABLY WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP

[Menses]

Refuted all your points. Try again. You can't win this debate versus me. Sorry Menses.

There is no debate...Kobe is NOT ELITE......you will come to understand this after he comes back and destroys the Lakers playoff chances later this year..(if the REFS DO NOT INTERVENE)

[Menses]

Did you guys know that Gasol got swept 3 years in a row in the playoffs before joining Bryant? 0-12 in the playoffs I'm pretty sure.

Get a clue.

Bryant most defensive first teams in nba history.

Jordan also said that no one is on his level except Kobe. Has said it many times, in many different ways.

So the rest of our opinions don't matter. Jordan's opinion is the only one that matters in this matter.

Much thanks.

Jordan is using Kobe as a buffer against the Rise of Lebron...Jordan knows fully well, Kobe is now miles behind him and that Lebron is miles ahead of Kobe...do not be fooled by Jordan's faux love of Kobe....We Love the people who are not a threat to us....Kobe is the ugly girlfriend girls take with them to the clubs...she is of no threat to her popularity with the boys...

[Menses]

PHIL JACKSON SPEAKS ON TRADING KOBE...He never once asked to trade Jordan....or Scottie Pippen....who are REAL ALL TIME GREATS.....but Kobe was so headstrong and incapable of playing team basketball, he wanted to trade the ball hog for lesser stars...

Jackson wrote he became so frustrated with Bryant that he told general manager Mitch Kupchak in January: "I won't coach this team next year if he is still here. He won't listen to anyone. I've had it with this kid."


Bryant was aware of Jackson's ultimatum.


"I heard something like that, but I wasn't going to let that come between me and the team," Bryant said. "
It was not the first time Jackson requested the team trade Bryant. He sought to trade him to the Phoenix Suns for Jason Kidd and Shawn Marion in the 1999-00 season. But then-general manager Jerry West told Jackson that owner Jerry Buss would never trade the Laker star, he wrote in his diary. Jackson said he was told the same thing last season.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/2004-10-12-jackson-book_x.htm

[hotelis]

its was the Grizzlies who got swept, not Gasol for fks sake

[Menses]

for me personally it is difficult to take Kobe's GREATNESS for granted. He is Great with an asterisk. Great*. Basketball is a team game, Lakers right now benefit from Kobe's absence. No ball movement, stand still-while watching-kobe-play, kills team spirit, team game. Everybody should be kept "happy", get enough touches. Take Kobes 25 FGA in a game, divide it by 5. That means 5 more shots for 5 players. Might even be more quality shots. Gotta love teams, not players.

Everytime Kobe leaves, Steve Blake plays like he was still at Maryland...the ball movement is extremely effective. Kobe is not happy about this, just look at him on the sidelines....He will destroy the team chemistry once he returns...that is his main goal at this point....

[Goat Milk]

Menses you're speaking to kobe's attitude with that Jackson quote, not his talent. Jordan could care less about Lebron. Bryant reminds Jordan of himself. That's what he has so much respect for him. I don't have time for this argument. You're wrong. I'm right.

Menses you're saying the dumbest shit. You think a team with Steve Blake Nash Gasol and Meeks is gonna make it to the playoffs? LOL they would get swept by any team in the first round even if they did.

Who gives a fukk about ball movement. You're not winning dick with your little ball movement come playoff time if you don't have the TALENT.

I'm out. peace.

[t-wizzle]

Menses you're speaking to kobe's attitude with that Jackson quote, not his talent. Jordan could care less about Lebron. Bryant reminds Jordan of himself. That's what he has so much respect for him. I don't have time for this argument. You're wrong. I'm right.

Menses you're saying the dumbest shit. You think a team with Steve Blake Nash Gasol and Meeks is gonna make it to the playoffs? LOL they would get swept by any team in the first round even if they did.

Who gives a fukk about ball movement. You're not winning dick with your little ball movement come playoff time if you don't have the TALENT.

I'm out. peace.

[Menses]

Menses you're speaking to kobe's attitude with that Jackson quote, not his talent. Jordan could care less about Lebron. Bryant reminds Jordan of himself. That's what he has so much respect for him. I don't have time for this argument. You're wrong. I'm right.

Menses you're saying the dumbest shit. You think a team with Steve Blake Nash Gasol and Meeks is gonna make it to the playoffs? LOL they would get swept by any team in the first round even if they did.

Who gives a fukk about ball movement. You're not winning dick with your little ball movement come playoff time if you don't have the TALENT.

I'm out. peace.

Who cares about ball movement? lol.............okay.

[crustyme]

Did Kobe Miss the Playoffs the year Shaq Left? YES

Did Kobe gets bounced out of the playoffs in 06 and 07? - YES

DOES KOBE NEED THE MOST DOMINANT FRONT COURT IN BASKETBALL TO WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS? YES

YOU SIR ARE A KOBE-TARD........WELCOME TO YOUR DE-PROGRAMMING....THE FIRST STEP IS ADMITTING YOU HAVE A PROBLEM...YOU HAVE NOW TAKEN THE FIRST STEP TO RECOVERY..KOBE ADDICTION IS NOT A DEATH SENTENCE...THERE IS HOPE!!

who were his teammates dummy. smush parker and kwame brown. lol

yet kobe single-handedly carried them to the playoffs and a near upset of the suns.

how many championships did jordan win without pippen? 0

how many playoff series did jordan win without pippen? 0

how many playoff games did jordan win without pippen? 1 game

lol

notice a trend? even the one who many consider the "goat" couldnt win jacksheet without a hall of famer or two next to him.

why am i taking some dumbshit who cant spell tracy mcgrady seriously anyways?

[broadway6]

who were his teammates dummy. smush parker and kwame brown. lol

yet kobe single-handedly carried them to the playoffs and a near upset of the suns.

how many championships did jordan win without pippen? 0

how many playoff series did jordan win without pippen? 0

how many playoff games did jordan win without pippen? 1 game

lol

notice a trend? even the one who many consider the "goat" couldnt win jacksheet without a hall of famer or two next to him.

why am i taking some dumbshit who cant spell tracy mcgrady seriously anyways?

I'm a crusty fan

[crustyme]

Everytime Kobe leaves, Steve Blake plays like he was still at Maryland...the ball movement is extremely effective. Kobe is not happy about this, just look at him on the sidelines....He will destroy the team chemistry once he returns...that is his main goal at this point....

now its kobes fault blake missed wide open shot after shot costing them the playoffs against the mavs?

lol

if u want to see ball movement goto a fuking high school game. only reason lakers are moving the ball is because none of these hacks can create their own shots and are timid about shooting the ball. why should kobe pass when he can create shots and make them? did the suns move the ball when barkley was in the game?

u are a fuking nitwit.

lol

[thetrinity]

this team is 3-4 right now with a -7.3 ppg differential so that would suggest that things get worse before they get better.

kobe will still not play for about 2 weeks after he starts practicing, so we can assume that hell miss at least another 7 or 8 games once that happens, good chance this team is finished before he even gets back. expect him to be firing away to make up ground on abdul jabbar for the scoring record. what will this team do in the offseason, who knows, probably embarrass themselves like they did with dwight howard.

[crustyme]

PHIL JACKSON SPEAKS ON TRADING KOBE...He never once asked to trade Jordan....or Scottie Pippen....who are REAL ALL TIME GREATS.....but Kobe was so headstrong and incapable of playing team basketball, he wanted to trade the ball hog for lesser stars...

youre right... phil hated kobe so much he returned to coach him a year later (riding kobes coattail to 3 consecutive finals and b2b championships) and even contemplated returning for the 3rd time last season.

lol

if phil wasnt so blindly loyal to jordan, he could write the same scathing book on jordan punching his teammates, bullying young players and freezing out teammates he felt were stealing his shots. he could add a few chapters on pippen whining and crying and refusing to play cause he drew up a play for kukoc instead of him.

[Menses]

youre right... phil hated kobe so much he returned to coach him a year later (riding kobes coattail to 3 consecutive finals and b2b championships) and even contemplated returning for the 3rd time last season.

lol

if phil wasnt so blindly loyal to jordan, he could write the same scathing book on jordan punching his teammates, bullying young players and freezing out teammates he felt were stealing his shots. he could add a few chapters on pippen whining and crying and refusing to play cause he drew up a play for kukoc instead of him.

I am no fan of Jordan personally...he is a prick of the highest order......but he NEVER LET IT INTERFERE WITH A DYNASTY..Winning Championships is all that mattered at the core of it all with that bulls team....and if that idiot Reinsdorf had not of broken up the team, they would have won two more......Kobe sacrificed a dynasty for his own selfish gain....plain and simple.....