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  • 747planes
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 08-25-13
    • 658

    #1
    Interesting Hilton Contest System/Trend hitting over 70%
    Week 9 LVH SuperContest NFL Picks By Most Contestants
    (2-3 Last Week, 10-29-1 ATS YTD)
    1 Houston +2.5 By 347
    2 New Orleans -6 By 300
    3 Kansas City -3 By 284
    3 Baltimore -2.5 By 284
    5 Oakland -2.5 By 268

    Week 9 LVH SuperContest NFL Picks By Widest Margin
    (2-3 Last Week, 12-27-1 ATS YTD)
    1 Baltimore -2.5 By 131
    2 Cincinnati -2.5 By 127
    3 Oakland -2.5 By 125
    4 Tennessee -3 By 104
    5 Seattle -16 By 100
  • Lo$t
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 06-03-10
    • 787

    #2
    Why not just fade this guy?

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    • 747planes
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 08-25-13
      • 658

      #3
      Its not one guy, its consensus. Yes, the idea is to fade those plays. I already have philly moneyline and cleveland moneyline, so feeling good. Not touching the others. With the QB situation in buffalo, it might not be a good idea to fade kansas city. just, posted this info if anyone want to track and fade it..
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      • Bet10Heinekens
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 01-10-13
        • 10567

        #4
        been using the capping contest to locate the squares
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        • face
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-31-11
          • 14740

          #5
          amazing how the majority is wrong at such a high rate
          i might just do this system, whenever i really like a side it's completely wrong
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          • Vinnie Paz
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 03-27-12
            • 12177

            #6
            Where do you guys get this stuff at

            Post todays top NBA sides somebody please
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            • etothep
              SBR MVP
              • 09-14-07
              • 1299

              #7
              Originally posted by Vinnie Paz
              Where do you guys get this stuff at

              Post todays top NBA sides somebody please
              I, too, am interested in going to a Football handicapping contest for NBA fades
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              • Big Bear
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 11-01-11
                • 43253

                #8
                please post next week
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                • BeatTheJerk
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 08-19-07
                  • 31794

                  #9
                  Originally posted by 747planes
                  Its not one guy, its consensus. Yes, the idea is to fade those plays. I already have philly moneyline and cleveland moneyline, so feeling good. Not touching the others. With the QB situation in buffalo, it might not be a good idea to fade kansas city. just, posted this info if anyone want to track and fade it..
                  This guy's f u c k i n g sharp. Way to go Taylor .... (just a saying around my parts of town)
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                  • Ghenghis Kahn
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 01-02-12
                    • 19734

                    #10
                    keep this thread alive...

                    another note, houston really needs to get a new kicker.

                    every time he kicks, i feel like he's gonna miss it. no joke.
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                    • Mako-SBR
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 10-15-13
                      • 492

                      #11
                      Already examined this a few weeks ago. This is the first season it's happened, all other times previously the LVH Top 5 consensus picks WON for the duration of the season, fyi.

                      A couple reasons come to mind as to why this specific year's contest is different:

                      1. LVH Supercontest participation doubled this year versus last year's players, to a whopping 1000 entries. Basically every chucklehead wanna-be threw his $1500 into the ring thanks to remote runner services in Vegas popping up in bulk, particularly from 2-3 man out of state buddy "teams" who pooled their entry fee to limit the damage to their meager wallets.

                      As you would expect, this is having an effect in bringing a more square betting element to the weekly picks versus previous contests where dogs were more targeted.

                      2. Despite what I just pointed to in #1, it's only a fluke and not something that should be tailed. Sorry guys.

                      Basically it's an uncharacteristically bad year thus far for the public, having a far worse-than-normal go at it so far versus previous full season data on games where 80% or more of bets are placed on one side.

                      I'm sure this will come as a shock to the sharp sharp sharp oh-so-sharp super-sharp pro handicappers on SBR , but the public usually does come in around .450-.500 for the season on side bets ATS when all is said in done. Amazingly they sometimes even WIN outright for the year.

                      Yep, despite what you hear all day long every day from the so-called experts, the squares win nearly as much as the SHARPS do year over year when all is said and done.

                      It doesn't happen all the time however, and it's not happening this year as I mentioned, but in 8 out of the last 10 seasons the square public actually did just fine versus the SHARP PROs.

                      Here is some data to chew on about it, within the chart are the wins/losses ATS for all side bets in which 80% or more of the money bet was on the favorite at the time of closing over the past 7 seasons.

                      The last line, 2013-2014, demonstrates what's happening in the LVH "Top 5" consensus picks, which is an unusually bad year for the public (6-19).

                      Last season, 2012-2013, you can see that not only did the square bettor win overall, they made a killing at 27-18...yes, it doesn't happen much, but the public can actually get it right the whole year. Who knew.

                      <input class="filterListCheck" name="2007-08 " type="checkbox" style="margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; cursor: pointer;"> 2007-08 16-17
                      -6.7%
                      -$221
                      <input class="filterListCheck" name="2008-09 " type="checkbox" style="margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; cursor: pointer;"> 2008-09 17-14
                      9.4%
                      +$290
                      <input class="filterListCheck" name="2009-10 " type="checkbox" style="margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; cursor: pointer;"> 2009-10 25-24
                      0.4%
                      +$19
                      <input class="filterListCheck" name="2010-11 " type="checkbox" style="margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; cursor: pointer;"> 2010-11 27-24
                      5.6%
                      +$284
                      <input class="filterListCheck" name="2011-12 " type="checkbox" style="margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; cursor: pointer;"> 2011-12 25-29
                      -8.5%
                      -$460
                      <input class="filterListCheck" name="2012-13 " type="checkbox" style="margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; cursor: pointer;"> 2012-13 27-18
                      18.6%
                      +$835
                      <input class="filterListCheck" name="2013-14 " type="checkbox" style="margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; cursor: pointer;"> 2013-14 6-19
                      -51.8%
                      -$1,294
                      Hope this helps, it was somewhat surprising to me as well when I pulled the numbers after spotting how "badly" most cappers in the LVH event are doing this year and thinking there was something to gain from it.
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                      • a4u2fear
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 01-29-10
                        • 8147

                        #12
                        This is posted weekly across the street, not hard to find
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                        • Big Bear
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 11-01-11
                          • 43253

                          #13
                          i think 747 planes is on to something here.
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                          • Ghenghis Kahn
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-02-12
                            • 19734

                            #14
                            what's the fade this week?
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                            • Naz18
                              SBR MVP
                              • 09-10-09
                              • 4277

                              #15
                              The top picks this week are:

                              NO 380
                              SF 307
                              ARI 284
                              CHI 266
                              BAL 253
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                              • etothep
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-14-07
                                • 1299

                                #16
                                Week 10 LVH SuperContest NFL Picks By Most Contestants
                                (1-4 Last Week, 11-33-1 ATS YTD)
                                1 New Orleans -6.5 By 380
                                2 San Francisco -6 By 307
                                3 Arizona -2.5 By 284
                                4 Chicago +2.5 By 266
                                5 Baltimore +1.5 By 253
                                Week 10 LVH SuperContest NFL Picks By Widest Margin
                                (1-4 Last Week, 13-31-1 ATS YTD)
                                1 New Orleans -6.5 By 268
                                2 Arizona -2.5 By 165
                                3 Tampa Bay +2.5 By 132
                                4 NY Giants -7 By 113
                                5 San Francisco -6 By 108
                                For the visual learners
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                                • gameday10
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 01-16-09
                                  • 601

                                  #17
                                  I track across the street and have gathered data for this and other things. Another interesting statistic, one of many I have, using the differential's Top 5 for Overall selections. This season, a differential > 250 is 0-9-1. NO falls into that this week, with NO falling into a ton of my data selections as a fade. Have many other system selections but figured I would throw that one out there for everyone.
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                                  • cheddar327
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 10-15-10
                                    • 169

                                    #18
                                    Great info....I love it. Thanks!
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                                    • Ghenghis Kahn
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 01-02-12
                                      • 19734

                                      #19
                                      i guess that makes dallas a 2 unit play for me...
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                                      • daneblazer
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 09-14-08
                                        • 27861

                                        #20
                                        Saw this across the street, pretty amazing success rate this season
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                                        • jjgold
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-20-05
                                          • 388179

                                          #21
                                          There are trends everyday on every game that hit 70%, that is why they are useless
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                                          • broadway6
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 11-14-09
                                            • 13337

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                            There are trends everyday on every game that hit 70%, that is why they are useless
                                            Gold. The trend of u picking losers is solid.
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                                            • etothep
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-14-07
                                              • 1299

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by broadway6
                                              Gold. The trend of u picking losers is solid.
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                                              • Big Bear
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 11-01-11
                                                • 43253

                                                #24
                                                damn i like all those
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                                                • Vinnie Paz
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 03-27-12
                                                  • 12177

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Big Bear
                                                  damn i like all those
                                                  big fukkin surpise
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                                                  • broadway6
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 11-14-09
                                                    • 13337

                                                    #26

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                                                    • Big Bear
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 11-01-11
                                                      • 43253

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Vinnie Paz
                                                      big fukkin surpise
                                                      haha
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                                                      • Big Bear
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 11-01-11
                                                        • 43253

                                                        #28
                                                        what are this weeks picks?
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                                                        • Vinnie Paz
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 03-27-12
                                                          • 12177

                                                          #29
                                                          Bump for the masses
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                                                          • Smoke
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 10-09-09
                                                            • 48111

                                                            #30
                                                            masses for the bump
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                                                            • 747planes
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 08-25-13
                                                              • 658

                                                              #31
                                                              Week 11 LVH SuperContest NFL Picks By Most Contestants
                                                              (4-1 Last Week, 15-34-1 ATS YTD)
                                                              1 New Orleans -3 By 416
                                                              2 Kansas City +8 By 307
                                                              3 New England +2.5 By 272
                                                              4 San Diego -1.5 By 245
                                                              5 NY Jets +1 By 214

                                                              Week 11 LVH SuperContest NFL Picks By Widest Margin
                                                              (3-2 Last Week, 16-33-1 ATS YTD)
                                                              1 New Orleans -3 By 273
                                                              2 Kansas City +8 By 162
                                                              3 San Diego -1.5 By 128
                                                              4 Houston -7 By 101
                                                              5 Tampa Bay +1.5 By 94
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                                                              • Vinnie Paz
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 03-27-12
                                                                • 12177

                                                                #32
                                                                Thanks

                                                                Sf/buff/mia/car

                                                                Not sure about Oakland yet or if I can bet the tampa game.
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                                                                • Coach Potato
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 08-31-11
                                                                  • 4303

                                                                  #33
                                                                  i dunno if it will continue to be so bad for the rest of the season. Anyone fading from now will probably hit 50% probably.
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                                                                  • Smoke
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 10-09-09
                                                                    • 48111

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Coach Potato
                                                                    i dunno if it will continue to be so bad for the rest of the season. Anyone fading from now will probably hit 50% probably.
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                                                                    • jarvol
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 09-13-10
                                                                      • 6074

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Coach Potato
                                                                      i dunno if it will continue to be so bad for the rest of the season. Anyone fading from now will probably hit 50% probably.
                                                                      Especially when dumbshits advertise it for the dumbass masses to see in week 11.
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