does anyone feel soory for Seaweed? Where is his future?
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sweepSBR Posting Legend
- 10-09-10
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#1does anyone feel soory for Seaweed? Where is his future?
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Fidel_CashFlowSBR Aristocracy
- 12-03-12
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#2Seaweed is most likely a very kind person in the real world
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onacloudSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-14-10
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#3Hopefully he goes back to where ever he came from and takes PhillyFlyers with him
I remember his first thread was touting how he has had like 10 winning years in a row but then couldn't even make it thru the first month of the NBA without abandoning his thread http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...over-66-a.html

Now dropping a 10 unit bomb on a kick-off prop you have to be shitting meComment -
tto827SBR Hall of Famer
- 10-01-12
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#4Seaweed is spot on with that play onacloud. In domes this year the two kickers are well above 60% that it is a touchback, that covers the juice here.
Something tells me the books know SF is going to defer if they win the toss, because Baltimore ALWAYS defers, yet is only -140 to kick off first. Looking at this season SF is 50/50 on defer/receive when they win the toss. So by my thinking Baltimore should be -300, since theoretically they would kick off 75% of the time.Comment -
BIGDAYSBR Aristocracy
- 02-17-10
- 48247
#5Originally posted by tto827Seaweed is spot on with that play onacloud. In domes this year the two kickers are well above 60% that it is a touchback, that covers the juice here.
Something tells me the books know SF is going to defer if they win the toss, because Baltimore ALWAYS defers, yet is only -140 to kick off first. Looking at this season SF is 50/50 on defer/receive when they win the toss. So by my thinking Baltimore should be -300, since theoretically they would kick off 75% of the time.
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Louisvillekid1SBR Aristocracy
- 10-17-07
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#6sharp post TTOComment -
VegasInsiderSBR Posting Legend
- 12-12-10
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#7Actually, the break even point for plays of -180 is about 65%Originally posted by tto827Seaweed is spot on with that play onacloud. In domes this year the two kickers are well above 60% that it is a touchback, that covers the juice here.
Something tells me the books know SF is going to defer if they win the toss, because Baltimore ALWAYS defers, yet is only -140 to kick off first. Looking at this season SF is 50/50 on defer/receive when they win the toss. So by my thinking Baltimore should be -300, since theoretically they would kick off 75% of the time.
You'll need to be more accurate with your percentages to figure out if it has break even potential or not.
Big difference between 65% and "well above 60%"Comment -
VegasInsiderSBR Posting Legend
- 12-12-10
- 14593
#8C'mon guys....DO THE MATH
65 x $100 = $6,500
35 x $180 = $6,300
The break even point is just a oyster hair under 65%Comment -
BIGDAYSBR Aristocracy
- 02-17-10
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#9It's +EV VIComment -
onacloudSBR Hall of Famer
- 10-14-10
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#10That -180 line is down to -155 right now... so I should go all-in right? +EV
How many times has a returner took the ball out of the end zone 5 yards deep only to get tackled inside the 15? I know you guys see this every Sunday now in the Super Bowl every one wants to make the big play especially to start the game off
I just think its a dumb bet but if its free money go grab that -155Comment -
VegasInsiderSBR Posting Legend
- 12-12-10
- 14593
#11What evidence shows it's +EV??Originally posted by BIGDAYIt's +EV VI
I'm a math guy and if the numbers don't add up, then they don't add up.
I agree it SHOULD hit, but I'm not playing anything that I have to hit 65% to break even.Comment -
tto827SBR Hall of Famer
- 10-01-12
- 9078
#12I didn't look it up, I'll admit that, but I've got a very trusted prop source who hammered the -180 on less than 4.5 returns and moved it to the -215 it now stands at. His research backed that up, and I'll trust it. Now if you want to go find out the exact percentages, I'll be willing to bet you it's above 70% of kickoffs by those two in domes that are not returned.Originally posted by VegasInsiderC'mon guys....DO THE MATH
65 x $100 = $6,500
35 x $180 = $6,300
The break even point is just a oyster hair under 65%Comment -
TheCentaurSBR Hall of Famer
- 06-28-11
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#13Seaweed seems all nice and innocent in his threads.
Then he gets you alone in a poker room and becomes a raging bull queer. Stay away, unless you like thatComment -
VegasInsiderSBR Posting Legend
- 12-12-10
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#14I think it's +EV at -155, because the season statistics for touchbacks in a dome show that percentage of touchbacks is higher than the break even point.Originally posted by onacloudThat -180 line is down to -155 right now... so I should go all-in right? +EV
How many times has a returner took the ball out of the end zone 5 yards deep only to get tackled inside the 15? I know you guys see this every Sunday now in the Super Bowl every one wants to make the big play especially to start the game off
I just think its a dumb bet but if its free money go grab that -155
It's simple math.Comment -
VegasInsiderSBR Posting Legend
- 12-12-10
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#15I'd be curious to see it myself. I would make the play at -155 solely because the break even point is significantly lower.Originally posted by tto827I didn't look it up, I'll admit that, but I've got a very trusted prop source who hammered the -180 on less than 4.5 returns and moved it to the -215 it now stands at. His research backed that up, and I'll trust it. Now if you want to go find out the exact percentages, I'll be willing to bet you it's above 70% of kickoffs by those two in domes that are not returned.Comment -
tto827SBR Hall of Famer
- 10-01-12
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#16Good thing we didn't bet it lol, as you'll see in the other thread these two only had touchbacks 55% of the time in domes this year.Originally posted by VegasInsiderI'd be curious to see it myself. I would make the play at -155 solely because the break even point is significantly lower.
Tucker 4/5, Akers 2/10 in the reg season, and 5/5 last week.Comment -
VegasInsiderSBR Posting Legend
- 12-12-10
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#17Oh wow, odds now need to be -120ish
No value at all in terms of math
Thanks for the info. I hope it wins anyways for these guysComment -
Colts03SBR Hustler
- 12-12-12
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#18seaweed is good people
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sweepSBR Posting Legend
- 10-09-10
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#19Originally posted by Colts03seaweed is good people
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KermitBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 09-27-10
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#20Seaweed is a solid guy.Comment -
SeaweedBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 01-19-12
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#21sweeper just jealous cause i outlasted him in poker today
sweeperwhere is my future?
sweeper we're living in the future
think about it
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SeaweedBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 01-19-12
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#22Originally posted by TheCentaurSeaweed seems all nice and innocent in his threads.
Then he gets you alone in a poker room and becomes a raging bull queer. Stay away, unless you like that
You're too easy to throw off your game, it's all mind games, think about it
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sweepSBR Posting Legend
- 10-09-10
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#23Pissed away a 3-1 chip lead to bring it up the rear in 12th
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa
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SeaweedBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 01-19-12
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#24Originally posted by sweepPissed away a 3-1 chip lead to bring it up the rear in 12th
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa
Sweeper, i thought i would fold to top 5 but the blinds and Antes got me. What place did you finish again? Oh right, you got a participant ribbon
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Russian RocketSBR Aristocracy
- 09-02-12
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#25I was under impression that Seaweed was a good peoples
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sweepSBR Posting Legend
- 10-09-10
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#26Weeder- Do me a solid and shine my badges while you're here, while you're at it dust off the old leg lamp for me...Its been 2 months since I was crowned top poster in all of forumville. Thanks guyOriginally posted by SeaweedSweeper, i thought i would fold to top 5 but the blinds and Antes got me. What place did you finish again? Oh right, you got a participant ribbon
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ttwarrior1BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 06-23-09
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#27he could shack up with moyalComment -
SeaweedBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 01-19-12
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#28Sweeper, i got nothing to say you just buried me.Originally posted by sweepWeeder- Do me a solid and shine my badges while you're here, while you're at it dust off the old leg lamp for me...Its been 2 months since I was crowned top poster in all of forumville. Thanks guy
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SeaweedBARRELED IN @ SBR!- 01-19-12
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#29Don't talk with your mouth fullOriginally posted by ttwarrior1he could shack up with moyalComment -
sweepSBR Posting Legend
- 10-09-10
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#30Originally posted by SeaweedDon't talk with your mouth full
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innovationSBR Hall of Famer
- 01-27-12
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#31I feel sorry for the kids that get on Seaweeds computer when it's unattended.
Some of those porn images will haunt them for ever.
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GUMMO77SBR Hall of Famer
- 08-23-10
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#32Seaweed's future, I hope, lands in my beautifully sculpted arms.
Dreamers can dream .. eh?Comment -
ttwarrior1BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#33handicapping contest , moyal vs seaweed, id be all in on moyal
this is your chance moyal and ill back youComment -
Russian RocketSBR Aristocracy
- 09-02-12
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#34thanks for stopping byOriginally posted by ttwarrior1handicapping contest , moyal vs seaweed, id be all in on moyal
this is your chance moyal and ill back you
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sweepSBR Posting Legend
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