No choice but to bring this up again - the BOL family of books gets worse and worse

[wrongturn]

How long and the amounts?

Since SB took over, one $2500 check, two $500 b2b, and hoping $2500 in this week. Will see.

[HedgeHog]

Dudler and Hedger: Take this bickering crap elsewhere.

Don't hijack thread.

This is a serious issue that merits serious posts.

Agree, sorry. Back on topic, why won't an SBR rep respond to BOL's deceptive advertising practices???

[darkhat]

Too many problems. People need to stay away from this book. Much better options.

[wrongturn]

Agree, sorry. Back on topic, why won't an SBR rep respond to BOL's deceptive advertising practices???

The response you are expecting just came out.

[prop]

BetOnline is in financial trouble. SBR knows it. If SBR admits they are in trouble publicly BetOnline/Lowvig will lose out on deposits for football season. Without the football deposits nobody gets paid, SBR and Mathy alike. Hopefully they can fix their business model and turn the ship around. I stopped playing their years ago. Their customer service and business practices has ALWAYS been shady. SBR/Betonline won't admit Lowvig/Betonline are related likely because lowvig is going to steal all deposits and go out of business and use funds to save Betonline. That's my opinion.

This is near certainly false. I'm sure these guy did mid 7 figures at minimum opening weekend and look how fast they're now paying off Sportsbetting.ag players. Their CC processing is an issue again though, and NETELLER worked today but didn't yesterday for a period. Perhaps have some cash flow issues at times, but there's not a large risk of being stiffed here. Sometimes slow paid, which is bad for business, but probably not stiffed. C+/B- type book with lots of hassles due to shitty support but good value for those willing to deal with it. Notice so many complaining about them also use them still as well.

[SBR_John]

Mathy,
Lou cc'd me on an email to lowvig asking about your balance. I have no other updates. I will inquire tomorrow.

[ronald]

This is near certainly false. I'm sure these guy did mid 7 figures at minimum opening weekend and look how fast they're now paying off Sportsbetting.ag players. Their CC processing is an issue again though, and NETELLER worked today but didn't yesterday for a period. Perhaps have some cash flow issues at times, but there's not a large risk of being stiffed here. Sometimes slow paid, which is bad for business, but probably not stiffed. C+/B- type book with lots of hassles due to shitty support but good value for those willing to deal with it. Notice so many complaining about them also use them still as well.

This is probably true. I don't think Mathy is worried that BOL will stiff. I don't think they will. The reality of offshore betting is that, in order to maximize profits, you have to play at outs that increase your expected value. Sportsbetting.com (before the BOL purchase) was notorious for slow-paying at times, but their promotions made it worth the hassle. One thing they didn't do was all this shifty stuff trying to prevent players from cashing out.

A top forum owner once said: "If you're gonna be stiff be stiff, but don't be loud stiff." All this junk with the free plays, hidden terms, forcing deposits prior to withdrawals, etc is the equivalent of being "loud stiff".

Punters don't like that.

[marcojuiceman]

Players is playing at BOL is Laughable

[Boscoe]

played the freeplay before reading this bullshit

[HedgeHog]

Mathy,
Lou cc'd me on an email to lowvig asking about your balance. I have no other updates. I will inquire tomorrow.

Yet no response to the deceptive FP ads by BOL. Way to ignore the elephant in the room.

[hawley]

Wow

So they owe a player 8k for over 8 moths now?

[SBR_John]

Yet no response to the deceptive FP ads by BOL. Way to ignore the elephant in the room.

HH file your complaint and we will look into it. We get hundreds of complaints a month and do our best to figure them out.

[hawley]

Walker

I heard a poster is owed 8k for over 8 moths now?

[Megatron81lions]

Why no response from sbr. the longer you wait the more guilty you seem.

[firedawg]

unreal how sbr stands by these fukks

[HedgeHog]

HH file your complaint and we will look into it. We get hundreds of complaints a month and do our best to figure them out.

A good many involving BOL I'm sure. How about getting ahead of the situation for once. Can you ask your sponsor how this FP offer works:


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[darkhat]

Betonline complaints are turning into a fukkin circus.

[mathdotcom]

Just relax guys.

The BOL trickery with the freeplays and "deposits to then make withdrawals" are a first for me, and that definitely is frustrating. Today send $50 to Maria Manila Laguana Santos so that tomorrow Pablo Sanchez Maria can send you $950? What a fukking joke. [It's too bad books don't operate out of Germany so everyone has only one fukking last name.] I agree with ronald's quote.

BOL should also clarify their relationship with Lowvig.

I personally hate books making you jump through useless hoops, doing things like canceling your payout requests without telling you (and once they do, won't tell you why) more than a book being up front and saying "I am sorry. We fukked up. We can be useless at times. Your payout is going to take a couple months because we have a cokehead for a manager". It's just shifty and makes me angry about ever getting involved with the book, even if they offer a great bonus or easy lines. All you can do is hope you crush them, but then your payout issues just double...

A Fishhead quote for you guys: "You can't win sir, can't win."

[firedawg]

Just relax guys.

The BOL trickery with the freeplays and "deposits to then make withdrawals" are a first for me, and that definitely is frustrating. Today send $50 to Maria Manila Laguana Santos so that tomorrow Pablo Sanchez Maria can send you $950? What a fukking joke. [It's too bad books don't operate out of Germany so everyone has only one fukking last name.] I agree with ronald's quote.

BOL should also clarify their relationship with Lowvig.

I personally hate books making you jump through useless hoops, doing things like canceling your payout requests without telling you (and once they do, won't tell you why) more than a book being up front and saying "I am sorry. We fukked up. We can be useless at times. Your payout is going to take a couple months because we have a cokehead for a manager". It's just shifty and makes me angry about ever getting involved with the book, even if they offer a great bonus or easy lines. All you can do is hope you crush them, but then your payout issues just double...

A Fishhead quote for you guys: "You can't win sir, can't win."

mathy... im sorry for the other night pal.. you seem like a good guy

[mathdotcom]

mathy... im sorry for the other night pal.. you seem like a good guy

What happened the other night?

Was it you who delivered me 15 vegetarian pizzas ?? You fukk

[BAUS]

When BOL/Sportsbetting first started dishing out these random FP, there was a box that would appear when you logged in, asking "We have a $50 FP for you. Do you accept it?".

Then, without any notice, they just start adding these FP to your account without giving you the option to decline them. These FP just serve as a block on your account from withdrawing. To get it removed you have to contact CS, which we all know is a clusterfukk at BOL headquarters. A real shrewd move on the part of BOL & Sportsbetting to prevent withdrawals.

BAUS

[HedgeHog]

For all of you that grew up watching Sesame Street: " One of these things is not like the others....."

A) Bookmaker
B) 5-Dimes
C) Heritage
D) BetOnline

[durito]

for all of you that grew up watching sesame street: " one of these things is not like the others....."

a) bookmaker
b) 5-dimes
c) heritage
d) betonline

a)

.

[book_banger]

Bet islands froze my account because I was taking to long to use my casino bonus

[Monte]

SBR is a scam too, B+ over years for a book with a fancy URL that is very likely to steal your money?
How many got robbed, where we don't know? Why would anyone be surprised, with BoS bitches involved?
It's just less of a scam, and gamblers are mostly loyal idiots still giving them traffic...like me.

[marcojuiceman]

HH file your complaint and we will look into it. We get hundreds of complaints a month and do our best to figure them out.

Percentage wise?? what book gets the most complaints???

[orlandoisme]

I had a $50 free play

They just sent me another $50 free play

lol...

[ronald]

SBR is a scam too, B+ over years for a book with a fancy URL that is very likely to steal your money?
How many got robbed, where we don't know? Why would anyone be surprised, with BoS bitches involved?
It's just less of a scam, and gamblers are mostly loyal idiots still giving them traffic...like me.

This may not be a popular thing to say, but SBR should not be faulted for supporting BOL. SBR is in the business of making money. SBR does not claim to be a "watchdog" site or any type of regulator. SBR does have a rating system but as punters we have to make our own rating system by collectively reviewing the books and posting our experiences. The monthly payout thread is helpful. SBR does not censor our posts so ultimately it is up to the players to assist other players by stating their grievances. Mathdotcom has done that here with BOL and I urge others to follow suit. If a book gives you the runaround, post about it. If a book is good, post about it too. For the longest time Sportsbetting.com had a poor rating here at SBR yet I regarded it as a top book, as did many others. In this world of unregulated offshore betting the players should be helping each other. Let make this forum our own watchdog site.

[CanuckG]

SBR has been the leading online sportsbook industry watchdog since 1999. Players in need of assistance may write to help@sportsbookreview.com.

[ronald]

SBR has been the leading online sportsbook industry watchdog since 1999. Players in need of assistance may write to help@sportsbookreview.com.

Well, I stand corrected.

SBR should do the right thing and either downgrade BOL and LowVig at once or stop claiming to be a watchdog site.

[Inkwell77]

lol

[ronald]

SBR has been the leading online sportsbook industry watchdog since 1999. Players in need of assistance may write to help@sportsbookreview.com.

Where did you find that quote?

[CanuckG]

It is on the bottom of every video or article at SBR.com

Example #1

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sbr-news/avoid-sportsbook-scams-headed-into-football-season-5520/

[CanuckG]

Avoid sportsbook scams headed into football season


B+

[Halifax]

So has anyone figured out why Sportsbetting.ag hasn't added the Moneybookers / Skrill option ?? I'm assuming that no one else has the Skrill option set up on their Sportsbetting.ag account ??

Since they're trying to prevent withdrawals, I could understand them not listing it as a withdrawal option ... but not even having it as a deposit method seems strange.