My own $4000 experiment

**ICEMAN888** · 02-22-09, 11:27 PM

Mediocre 4 wins and 4 losses and a net loss of $92 for the night.

Record 45-37-4 (54.8%)

Current Bankroll $4779.50

**ICEMAN888** · 02-22-09, 11:30 PM

FYI - Charlottle Bobcats pick was a John Morrison system play. I will be doubling up on Charlotte next time around. Not saying you guys need to do the double up but I will be. The Boston Celtics pick was also a John Morrison A Bet and it won.

**ICEMAN888** · 02-23-09, 02:52 AM

I am rethinking my betting strategy. The goal is to maximize winnings on a daily basis. Each day I will be posting 3 to 5 picks. I feel that with my strongest plays in action I will rarely lose 3 in a row.

Scenario #1

Bet #1 to win $100
If Bet #1 loses Bet #2 will be for the lost amount of Bet #1 +$100
If Bet #2 loses Bet #3 will be for the lost amount of Bet #1 and Bet #2 +$100
If Bet #3 loses stop
If there is a Bet #4 then start the process all over again to win $100

Scenario #2

Bet #1 to win $100
If Bet #1 wins Bet #2 to win $100
If Bet #2 loses Bet #3 to win the losses of Bet #2 +$100
The goal here is to capitalize on a the days when my picks win more.

I think you get the basic gist of what I am trying to do here. I will still be posting my plays as usual. I am going to try to limit my plays to between 3 and 5 plays per day all spaced apart so that Bet 1 always ends before Bet 2 starts and Bet 3 starts after Bet 2 has already ended. In some special occasions you still may see 2 plays start at the same time. This means the bet was too good to not bet. In the case that I lose both of these bets I will still try to win the combined losses back + a profit on the next bet. Stopping on a 3rd loss.

I don't know if this will be a good strategy. I feel it will and will try it for 2 weeks or more.

**PureF8** · 02-23-09, 03:11 AM

That strategy has been tried n true. For NBA The only problem that is a hang up is when game#2 is at the same time as game #1 or 30 mins after, then what? If you are waiting till it's over then you will have 2 games a day. 3 on Sundays.

**ICEMAN888** · 02-23-09, 05:51 AM

I am betting an early soccer game each day. This will usually be my Bet #1. On days when there are 11am EST games that also may be my Bet #1 or my Bet #2 if I choose to play a soccer game on that day also.

Bet #1 (Game Start Time 2:14 Eastern Time)

Selection 1:Germany - Bundesliga 2, Soccer
FC St. Pauli/FC Kaiserslautern 23-February-2009 11:14 AM PST
Total Points OVER 2.5 for Game -138
Risking 138.00 to Win 100.00 USD LOSER

**ICEMAN888** · 02-23-09, 05:56 AM

Bet #2 will be the Philadephia 76ers -1 over the New Jersey Nets. If I win Bet #1 I will bet #2 for $50. If I lose Bet #1 I will wager to win $238.

Bet #3 will be a late NBA game. Still handicapping and when I know the 3rd play I will post it.

**Pair of 5s Sir** · 02-23-09, 06:20 AM

I like your thinking but why not just put a simple 3% of bankroll play in order to make it a little easier. You should be playing about 120 on 4000 bankroll.

The Contrarian

**DanOmaha** · 02-23-09, 09:04 AM

I'm a simple guy - I'll still be following along with my little money.

(And no soccer, for some reason I can't bet on sports I can't follow)

Best of luck to all - keep the picks coming ICE!

**coreygman** · 02-23-09, 03:29 PM

dang I missed out on one of the winners yesterday

And I seen your post to late to get in on the soccer game, so will just have to bet on the NBA game.

NBA STRAIGHT BET [503] PHILADELPHIA -1-130 (B+1) 39.00 / 30.00 LOSER

CBB STRAIGHT BET [513] LOUISVILLE -1-130 (B+1) 39.00 / 30.00 WINNER

Record 4-10-0 (40.0%)
Current Bankroll $-238.00

**Ralphie1412** · 02-23-09, 03:54 PM

corey, or you could ***GASP*** play ur own picks, weird i know

**ICEMAN888** · 02-23-09, 04:34 PM

Added Play

NCAA Basketball
Kansas +2.5 over Oklahoma

This game starts at 9pm EST. So the bet amount will depend on how the Philadelphia 76ers game is going.

The late NBA game will be

Los Angeles Clippers +4 over the Golden State Warriors

I will update later with bet amounts.

**ICEMAN888** · 02-23-09, 04:36 PM

Bet #1 lost so Philadelphia 76ers to win $238 is not an official bet. LOSER

**coreygman** · 02-23-09, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by Ralphie1412

corey, or you could ***GASP*** play ur own picks, weird i know

I guess the title under your name explains you "wise guy"

I do plunty of bets on my own, I like the way ice plays, and wanted to try something new, is there a problem with that?

**ICEMAN888** · 02-23-09, 04:54 PM

For those of you that don't want to play my system and just want to know my picks. Here is a complete list of my picks. I am leaving out the soccer game since it already finished.

NBA Philadelphia 76ers -1 to win $238
CBB Louisville ML (-130) This play was just added to win $100
CBB Kansas +2.5 to win $438
NBA Los Angeles Clippers +4 $100

**ICEMAN888** · 02-23-09, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by coreygman

dang I missed out on one of the winners yesterday

And I seen your post to late to get in on the soccer game, so will just have to bet on the NBA game.

NBA STRAIGHT BET [503] PHILADELPHIA -1-130 (B+1) 39.00 / 30.00 WINNER

CBB STRAIGHT BET [513] LOUISVILLE -1-130 (B+1) 39.00 / 30.00

Record 4-9-0 (44.4%)
Current Bankroll $-199.00

Philly lost Coreygman. Unless my scoreboard is broken.

Louisville did cover though. Good thing you missed the soccer game because it lost.

**JColli32** · 02-23-09, 10:27 PM

crazy ending iceman ya lost...but u gotta watch it on espn....definately will be numebr one....sorry for ur loss but definately worth checking out the top ten tonite

**outforseason36** · 02-23-09, 10:33 PM

Nope, Philly was up by 1 with 1.8 secons left and Devin Harris lost control of the ball and threw up a prayer and it went in. Third f'in bet i lost tonight on 1 point or less...!!!

**ICEMAN888** · 02-24-09, 01:11 AM

Results

Germany - Bundesliga 2, Soccer LOST $138
NBA Philadelphia 76ers -1 to LOST $261.8
CBB Louisville ML (-130) WON $100
CBB Kansas +2.5 to WON $438
NBA Los Angeles Clippers +4 WON $100

Record 48-39-4 (55.17%)

Current Bankroll $5017.70

Had to wait until Bet #3 to get my money back for Bets #1 and #2. With 2 bonus bets of $100 winning. I didn't wager on Bet #3 correctly because I made a mistake. I should have wagered to win $499.80.

I won $238.20 on the day so I will chalk this up to a good day.

Hope you guys got on the 3 winners at the end of the day.

**ICEMAN888** · 02-24-09, 01:23 AM

Originally posted by outforseason36

Nope, Philly was up by 1 with 1.8 secons left and Devin Harris lost control of the ball and threw up a prayer and it went in. Third f'in bet i lost tonight on 1 point or less...!!!

Glad I wasn't watching that game because I would have been knocking my head on the wall myself. As it is I thought the game was gonna lose when I bet the Kansas game to win $438. The game was tied at halftime but I had was very confident Kansas was going to win with Oklahoma not playing their best player.

**ICEMAN888** · 02-24-09, 01:37 AM

SEE NEW POSTING BELOW FOR ALL MY PICKS AND BET AMOUNTS

February 24 Plays

I am not counting this play in my system because it is the B Bet for the John Morrison system. I bought 2 points.

Charlotte Bobcats +8.5 $539.00 to win $350.00

Bet #1 EUFA Champions League Barcelona ML $100 to win $104

Plays later in the day

San Antonio Spurs -3.5 (-121 at Pinnacle)
For now I am betting $121 to win $100 may bet more later.

**coreygman** · 02-24-09, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by ICEMAN888

Philly lost Coreygman. Unless my scoreboard is broken.

Louisville did cover though. Good thing you missed the soccer game because it lost.

Whoops, I updated the wrong one, fixed it now. Man we got screwed on that last second shot!

**ICEMAN888** · 02-24-09, 01:41 PM

Hello All,

I am way to busy today to fuss with changing bet amounts. So I will just post all my plays with the amounts I bet on each.

UEFA Champions League - Barcelona -.5 (ML) $100 to win $104 LOST
NBA - San Antonio Spurs -3.5 $242 to win $200 WON
NBA - Charlotte Bobcats +8.5 $539 to win $350 LOST
NBA - Orlando Magic -1 $230 to win $200 LOST
CBB - San Diego State PK $232 to win $200 LOST
NHL - Philadelphia Flyers/Washington Capitals Over 6 $254 to win $200 PUSH
NHL - Washington Capitals ML (-145) $290 to win $200 LOST
NHL - Colorado Avalanche/Atlanta Thrashers Over 6 $250 to win $200 WON

**DanOmaha** · 02-24-09, 01:59 PM

Thanks Ice - BOL everyone.

**coreygman** · 02-24-09, 02:02 PM

Game on!

STRAIGHT BETFeb 24NBA [709] ORLANDO -1-130 (B+1) 39.00 USD / 30.00 USD LOSER
STRAIGHT BET Feb 24 NBA [714] SAN ANTONIO -3½-140 (B+1½) 42.00 USD / 30.00 USD WINNER
STRAIGHT BET Feb 24 NBA [715] CHARLOTTE +8½-140 (B+1½) 42.00 USD / 30.00 USD LOSER
STRAIGHT BET Feb 24 CBB [742] SAN DIEGO STATE PK-130 (B+1) 39.00 USD / 30.00 USD LOSER
STRAIGHT BET Feb 24 NHL [53] TOTAL o6-135 (PHILADELPHIA vrs WASHINGTON) 41.00 USD / 30.00 USD PUSH
STRAIGHT BET Feb 24 NHL [54] WASHINGTON -150 45.00 USD / 30.00 USD LOSER
STRAIGHT BET Feb 24 NHL [55] TOTAL o6-125 (COLORADO vrs ATLANTA) 38.00 USD / 30.00 USD WINNER
STRAIGHT BET Feb 24 SOC [121] BARCELONA -½-112 34.00 USD / 30.00 USD LOSER

Record 6-15-1 (40.0%)
Current Bankroll $-377.00

**qman615** · 02-24-09, 04:33 PM

BOL Ice -

**ICEMAN888** · 02-25-09, 01:00 AM

Record 50-44-5 (53.19%)

Current Bankroll $4026.70

HORRIBLE NIGHT! BOBCATS SUCK! I will not be trying to chase my losses on the Bobcats next game. I will bet a normal amount.

**walbjj** · 02-25-09, 01:06 AM

hey ice, its been a rollercoaster for sure, u started off really hot, keep at it. good things come sooner or later

**VVET** · 02-25-09, 07:04 AM

we are in it for the long haul, ice baby! We're with you - keep plugging away. You still have a great percentage! BOL to all of us!

**ICEMAN888** · 02-25-09, 11:30 AM

The bankroll is almost near where I started so I need to slow down and reassess my handicapping strategy. I will have 2 or 3 picks soon.

**ICEMAN888** · 02-25-09, 11:49 AM

Bet #1 for February 25, 2009

Selection 1:UEFA - Champions League, Soccer
Bayern München 25-February-2009 11:45 AM PST
Spread pk for Game -109
Risking 152.60 to Win 140.00 USD WINNER

Bet #2 will be

Selection 2:NBA, Basketball
Chicago Bulls 25-February-2009 4:35 PM PST
Spread +2 for Game -112
Risking 156.80 to Win 140.00 USD LOSER

The current amount is to win $140.00 but I could place another bet on this same game depending on how I do on Bet #1.

Bet #3 will be

Selection 3:NCAA, Basketball
Tennessee 25-February-2009 6:00 PM PST
Spread -8.5 for Game -112
Risking 156.80 to Win 140.00 USD LOSER

The current amount is to win $140.00 but I could place another bet on this one depending on how Bet #2 is doing. Bet #2 will most likely not finish before Bet #3 starts so I will be using my own judgment on the outcome based on what I see from the game.

**coreygman** · 02-25-09, 07:28 PM

missed the dang soccer game, and I see you won congrats!

NBA STRAIGHT BET [505] CHICAGO +2-120 (B+½) 36.00 / 30.00 LOSER
CBB STRAIGHT BET [584] TENNESSEE -8½-120 (B+½) 36.00 / 30.00 LOSER
CBB STRAIGHT BET [578] TULSA -3½-110 33.00 / 30.00 WINNER

Record 7-17-1 (41.2%)
Current Bankroll $-419.00

**akerber** · 02-25-09, 07:30 PM

i have sure you will hit all bets today, because i wont bet with you today.

gl ice.

**ICEMAN888** · 02-26-09, 03:07 AM

Another bad night. I am gonna take the next night off.

**VVET** · 02-26-09, 05:09 AM

we all have bad nights and we all have good nights...hang in there man, we are in it for the long haul as i said. Money management and capping...oh yea, MLB right around the corner!

ice, ice baby!

**reno cool** · 02-26-09, 05:29 AM

It's always a tough point when you start out fast and then see your profit evaporate. That's when most people want to quit, re-evaluate or do something drastic.