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  • frizzelli
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-06-10
    • 8916

    #36
    Originally posted by rfr3sh
    Bax, deal i am trying to teach you here not bash your pick. lets say you book panthers at +145 and it closes at +155 you cant feel good about it
    I think you are looking into too much into line movement in hockey. NBA and NFL I agree but Hockey a lot of dogs have won this year regardless of the line movement last week alone I nailed 5 +120 dogs in a row on the ice.
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    • jrk
      SBR Hustler
      • 12-11-07
      • 55

      #37
      Starting new threads, not answering others plays in the service thread. Dude your an attention whore. Unreal
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      • xraygord
        SBR MVP
        • 09-18-09
        • 2599

        #38
        Originally posted by bruceBRUCEbruce
        how about just the over with both backups in net?
        I wouldn't.
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        • Baxter Man13
          Restricted User
          • 09-09-10
          • 1185

          #39
          Originally posted by frizzelli
          I think you are looking into too much into line movement in hockey. NBA and NFL I agree but Hockey a lot of dogs have won this year regardless of the line movement last week alone I nailed 5 +120 dogs in a row on the ice.
          This is true, I only pointed out what happened the few hours ago, now it can go as high as it wants and it does not matter to me.
          -160 for the Leafs, nah no thanks. They lost to the Islanders with Roloson in net and to the Rangers with Biron in net, all on Leafs home ice...-160 is a joke and a trap for vegas....enough said

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          • rfr3sh
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 11-07-09
            • 10229

            #40
            if it goes up to +200 your +145 bet is -ev I know line movement doesn't mean much in hockey but that's just basics
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            • Baxter Man13
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              • 09-09-10
              • 1185

              #41
              Originally posted by rfr3sh
              if it goes up to +200 your +145 bet is -ev I know line movement doesn't mean much in hockey but that's just basics
              I never bet the game yet, I want it as high as I can get......
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              • rfr3sh
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-07-09
                • 10229

                #42
                sorry was under the assumption you bet it
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                • Baxter Man13
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                  • 09-09-10
                  • 1185

                  #43
                  Originally posted by rfr3sh
                  sorry was under the assumption you bet it
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                  • dcollins86
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 03-23-10
                    • 45

                    #44
                    Originally posted by rfr3sh
                    if it goes up to +200 your +145 bet is -ev I know line movement doesn't mean much in hockey but that's just basics
                    rfr3sh, even if he did bet it early it doesn't make it -EV it just makes it less +EV. If he makes them +115 for example they are still +EV whether he bets them at +145 or +200. BUT THAT'S JUST BASICS!!!!!
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                    • rfr3sh
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 11-07-09
                      • 10229

                      #45
                      Originally posted by dcollins86
                      rfr3sh, even if he did bet it early it doesn't make it -EV it just makes it less +EV. If he makes them +115 for example they are still +EV whether he bets them at +145 or +200. BUT THAT'S JUST BASICS!!!!!
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                      • alex81
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 07-18-09
                        • 658

                        #46
                        Good value on Florida... Leafs are falling back to reality lol
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                        • rfr3sh
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 11-07-09
                          • 10229

                          #47
                          if you bet +140 lines that close at +200 you will lose long term I can't believe yu just tried to tell me that's +ev
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                          • Mr KLC
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 12-19-07
                            • 31097

                            #48
                            I wasn't planning on watching this game before, but after all of this discussion, I guess I will be now. GO LEAFS!!
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                            • Metalhead
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 07-14-09
                              • 719

                              #49
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                              • soni
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 01-21-08
                                • 860

                                #50
                                toronto absolutely not worth at -160
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                                • rfr3sh
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 11-07-09
                                  • 10229

                                  #51
                                  dcollins you dumb fukk
                                  please explain to me how betting a game at +125 is +EV IF THE LINE CLOSES AT +200
                                  how dumb can you be
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                                  • D3 Mighty Ducks
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 12-17-09
                                    • 11939

                                    #52
                                    I like the Leafs in this one won't play the game though.
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                                    • rfr3sh
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 11-07-09
                                      • 10229

                                      #53
                                      Let me teach you something dcollins
                                      your bet in this game is +EV if you beat the no-vig closer

                                      closing lines are +148/-161 as per pinnacle

                                      Panthers: 100/248 = 0.4322
                                      Leafs = 161/(261) = 0.6169

                                      0.4322+0.6169 = 1.0491

                                      0.4322/1.0491 = 0.4120 = +142.72
                                      0.6169/1.0491 = 0.5880 = -142.71

                                      therefor if you bet panthers +143 or greater your bet is +EV
                                      or leafs under 142 your bet is +EV

                                      however if you bet Panthers at +120 IT IS NOT +EV it is -EV

                                      so in this case as the OP stated if you bet panthers +145 or above you have a small edge
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                                      • Thr33stacksHS
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 10-21-10
                                        • 31

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by Baxter Man13
                                        yeh and? What you do not think the crazy loud Leafs fans trying to scare him don't turn him on game wise?

                                        Thats like Crosby coming into Philly, getting booed everytime he touches the puck and uses those boo's against them and scores 2 goals every time.

                                        Hockey = Motivation and Emotion
                                        So by this logic more away games should be won than home games in any given season. Run the numbers and you will find it is the exact opposite.

                                        So maybe you could say this only applies to some players, my opinion....can't judge that off of 2 games in the last 9 years.
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                                        • Baxter Man13
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                                          • 09-09-10
                                          • 1185

                                          #55
                                          The Panthers are absolutely OUT PLAYING the Leafs....but losing 1-0...Panthers will cash in shortly
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                                          • Mr KLC
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 12-19-07
                                            • 31097

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Baxter Man13
                                            The Panthers are absolutely OUT PLAYING the Leafs....but losing 1-0...Panthers will cash in shortly
                                            They're having the same problem that has been plagueing them all year. They can't convert the power play. 4% is awful.
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                                            • Mr KLC
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                                              • 12-19-07
                                              • 31097

                                              #57
                                              Speaking of power plays, here's their third one. I hope its not the charm.
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                                              • Mr KLC
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                                                • 12-19-07
                                                • 31097

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Mr KLC
                                                Speaking of power plays, here's their third one. I hope its not the charm.
                                                Damn!
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                                                • Baxter Man13
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                                                  • 09-09-10
                                                  • 1185

                                                  #59
                                                  1-1 End of the Second
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                                                  • rfr3sh
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 11-07-09
                                                    • 10229

                                                    #60
                                                    Bax do you understand what I was explainign above
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                                                    • Baxter Man13
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                                                      • 09-09-10
                                                      • 1185

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by rfr3sh
                                                      Bax do you understand what I was explainign above
                                                      Kinda but it dont matter i got it at +150 and the Panthers are outplaying the $hit of the overrated Leafs
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                                                      • rfr3sh
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 11-07-09
                                                        • 10229

                                                        #62
                                                        so +150 is a +EV bet good job
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                                                        • Baxter Man13
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                                                          • 09-09-10
                                                          • 1185

                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by rfr3sh
                                                          so +150 is a +EV bet good job
                                                          What? I lay $500 down I take back in $750..how is it even?
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                                                          • rfr3sh
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 11-07-09
                                                            • 10229

                                                            #64
                                                            +EV is not even

                                                            it is expected value
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                                                            • Baxter Man13
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                                                              • 09-09-10
                                                              • 1185

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by rfr3sh
                                                              +EV is not even
                                                              ok whatever just watch the game
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                                                              • rfr3sh
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 11-07-09
                                                                • 10229

                                                                #66
                                                                I am 2-1 leafs
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                                                                • Baxter Man13
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                                                                  • 09-09-10
                                                                  • 1185

                                                                  #67
                                                                  What a bs goal wow...Clemmensen was interfered and the announcers even said it...wow
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                                                                  • Mr KLC
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                                                                    • 12-19-07
                                                                    • 31097

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by Baxter Man13
                                                                    What a bs goal wow...Clemmensen was interfered and the announcers even said it...wow
                                                                    That was one hell of a pick! Give that guy an NBA contract!
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                                                                    • Baxter Man13
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                                                                      • 09-09-10
                                                                      • 1185

                                                                      #69
                                                                      How does a ref allow that he was standing right there!!??
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                                                                      • ChileCheese
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 11-07-09
                                                                        • 1957

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Thats because BACK UP goalies get no respect.
                                                                        Thats what that is.
                                                                        Clemmensen in net, not Vokoun.
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