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  • Simon Gruber
    SBR MVP
    • 05-02-13
    • 2342

    #1
    Laughs worth a look tonight at + $
    Not a fan of the Wild. They're extremely top heavy on both offense and defense. Their second pairing of Ballard and Stoner are both injured although Stoner will play tonight on a bad leg. The Wild haven't beaten any team at home that has a winning record including OT/SO losses. Both teams have had 3 days off coming into tonight's match. Toronto is +130 tonight.
  • aznbluff
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 07-24-08
    • 892

    #2
    Toronto is a bad NHL team though. Most teams in the East are

    Minnesota is a solid team. Top 10 in the league. On home ice. Deserving of their price tonight
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    • aznbluff
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 07-24-08
      • 892

      #3
      Ballard and Stoner are also both replacement level players, not their 2nd pair
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      • Blueshirtfaithf
        SBR Rookie
        • 11-12-13
        • 33

        #4
        how is Toronto a bad NHL team ?
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        • Simon Gruber
          SBR MVP
          • 05-02-13
          • 2342

          #5
          Taking a shot here with TO for 2.5 units @ +135 (Bookmaker)

          Bernier back in net tonight for Leafs versus Backstrom who has been awful this season.
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          • aznbluff
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 07-24-08
            • 892

            #6
            Originally posted by Blueshirtfaithf
            how is Toronto a bad NHL team ?
            Terrible possession numbers.
            Fenwick close % close to the bottom of the league (2nd worst next to Buffalo), among teams like Edmonton, Buffalo, Columbus, Washington, etc
            Corsi stats (derivative of Fenwick stats, so not surprising) are also close to league worst, along with Edmonton, Buffalo, Calgary, etc

            This is the prime team to fade in the NHL right now, as they are extremely overrated.
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            • aznbluff
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 07-24-08
              • 892

              #7
              Minnesota, on the other hand, is top 5 in Corsi % surrounded by teams like Chicago, LA, St. Louis, San Jose, Pittsburgh, Vancouver, New Jersey (surprise)
              They are 6th in Fenwick close % behind, again, Chicago, LA, St. Louis, San Jose, Pittsburgh

              This is essentially one of the best teams in the league vs one of the worst, with home ice, but the public isn't aware of it yet
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              • Simon Gruber
                SBR MVP
                • 05-02-13
                • 2342

                #8
                TO was last, and that's dead last in Corsi % last season, yet they still managed to finish 5th in conference and held a 4-1 lead in game 7 against Boston. If you're still grouping them with teams like Calgary, Edmonton, and Buffalo you need to see a shrink.
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                • aznbluff
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 07-24-08
                  • 892

                  #9
                  They overachieved in a short season ya
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                  • cmendo2005
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 03-13-11
                    • 192

                    #10
                    Toronto isn't an awful team, and most east coast teams with any physicality play well against Minn.
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                    • aznbluff
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 07-24-08
                      • 892

                      #11
                      East teams struggle against the west in general. Mostly because western teams have embraced the importance of winning the Corsi battle
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                      • Simon Gruber
                        SBR MVP
                        • 05-02-13
                        • 2342

                        #12
                        Leafs getting crushed in this first period - thankfully still tied at 0-0 though. Franson and Kadri look noticeably bad. Hopefully Carlyle will wake this team up between periods. Backstrom took himself out, Harding now playing despite illness. I think I'd rather have a healthy Backstrom to contend with.
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                        • rainman416
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-20-12
                          • 1248

                          #13
                          No idea what these %'s are that you're talking about.. Any tips for where I can learn more? Always interested in learning new statistical formula's/systems etc. Can't hurt right?
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                          • Simon Gruber
                            SBR MVP
                            • 05-02-13
                            • 2342

                            #14
                            Well...Looks like I got screwed by NHL reffing again. Kadri gets a 5 minute major/game misconduct penalty for a clean hit w/ about 10 minutes left to go in the game. Leafs spend 5 minutes shorthanded, are minus their best center for the game + OT. They kill the major but end up losing the game in a shootout. Thx NHL.

                            Another great performance by Bernier though.
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                            • aznbluff
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 07-24-08
                              • 892

                              #15
                              Originally posted by rainman416
                              No idea what these %'s are that you're talking about.. Any tips for where I can learn more? Always interested in learning new statistical formula's/systems etc. Can't hurt right?
                              Fenwick close % is a measure of possession that has a higher correlation with predicting future wins than wins themselves.

                              Corsi % is a measure of shots taken vs shots against first invented/tracked by a Buffalo assistant coach, Jim (?) Corsi. When used in conjunction with zone starts and qualcomp, you can get a good indication of the performance of individual players. It can also be used on a team level but is less useful than Fenwick%
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                              • Mike Huntertz
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 08-19-09
                                • 11207

                                #16
                                Nice SO shot from Kessel,eh?
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                                • mnwild11
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 10-07-12
                                  • 701

                                  #17
                                  all homer bias aside, that was not a clean hit by any means. A blatant elbow to the face
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                                  • matskoviche
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 10-27-13
                                    • 31

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by aznbluff
                                    Fenwick close % is a measure of possession that has a higher correlation with predicting future wins than wins themselves.

                                    Corsi % is a measure of shots taken vs shots against first invented/tracked by a Buffalo assistant coach, Jim (?) Corsi. When used in conjunction with zone starts and qualcomp, you can get a good indication of the performance of individual players. It can also be used on a team level but is less useful than Fenwick%
                                    do you have a source to somewhere where i can read more about this? Do you compute these statistics yourself or are they available somewhere?
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                                    • aznbluff
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 07-24-08
                                      • 892

                                      #19
                                      No just google fenwick % hockey, it should be common knowledge
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