Guys, I am in the process of building a database and was curious if somebody could tell me were to get past halftime lines in the NBA. Maybe as far back as 10yrs. Is this possible or is this something you just have to start doing on your own? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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I don't think these things are available. BUT, if they are and you need bux to help cover costs, PM me as I like to get them too.
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Originally posted by Flying Dutchman
Yea, it would be helpful to have them. Nevertheless I will carry on. If I find what I am looking for I will let you know. Otherwise I will begin next season compiling the data myself.Comment -
any idea where to get 2nd half lines?Comment -
you can get them at covers.com, but as far as i know you have to access them one game at a time.Originally posted by FreeFall
covers>nba>live odds>1st half>2nd half (far right, about 1/3 of the way down)Comment -
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i think you're right. you used to be able to. but they all say "off" now.Originally posted by lyon804
i've also wanted to do some research regarding 1st and 2nd half totals, but as you've discovered it's harder than hell to find the data.
it appears the only way to get it now is to find someone who already has the data and is willing to share (or sell).Comment -
You've got to remember these forums take and make big money from the books. They pass a lot of information back to them and if something is posted that gives away too much info, it is made transient (today's stats only) or taken down entirely.
YOU are the mark. They make money off YOU. This entire industry is based on getting money out of your pockets, and into the books. You think you are getting a "free" service where in fact they are data mining info for the books.
Don't believe it? Whose ads are at the top of the page of any sports forums? You don't see any "sponsored by the posters of XYZ forum" anywhere do you?Comment -
10years no...Originally posted by lyon804
Current year as I posted in previous thread....
Ok, I was looking for this data for awhile and I have found it. If you get a package like sportsoptions it has it all obviously.
On the net, the best I have found is the following
Game 1H/2H: vegasinsider -> nba -> click scores -> pick date -> under each box score there is "line movement"
Game Side/Total & 2H Side/Total openers & closers: donbest site -> nba - > scores -> pick date -> under each box score there is "summary". This one only goes for current season...
Alternatively, you can get a line service and pull the data out on archived lines or contact them if they are willing to run a report for you at a cost.
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Originally posted by Wrecktangle
Thank you Wrectangle! I couldn't agree more. I have read many threads here and it is obvious from some slippage from one book owner in general (RW) that there is information about us being passed. This one book owner in general knows our personal identity. How else would he know that?
I could be the "MARK" if we was talking about anything other than NBA handicapping. I have done well over the years in that venue, but I am looking to step up to the next level and streamline my knowledge by using a large database that I can query from paramaters I have used in the past and hopefully learn many more angles by having a database to pull from. I am currently parsing 10 yrs worth of data and I will start feeding it to the DB soon. My real intention is to maintain my win % over a larger amount of games next year. The sky is the limit and I am encouraged that I can do this.Comment -
Originally posted by egr99
Thank you egr99 for posting this. I will definitely look into it over the weekend.Comment -
lyon, get a free trial of Don Best.Comment -
Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
Thanks MF! I appreciate your response.Comment -
Don Best has them, you have to go game by game though, very tedious.Comment -
here is a some data
partial year but will save some clicks on don bestComment -
nbastuffer might have what you need
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Originally posted by highnine
Thank you! Did you start doing this also and get tired of fooling with it?
Originally posted by curious
Thanks Curious! Glad to see you around.Comment -
Lyon I like what your doing here.
Remember though when the league structure changes next year with the big free agents your going to manually adjust yoru models
for example if wade and amare teamed up in miami i think you should try and track down all the bulls lines from the year they went 72-10. I think the spreads will be very similar if those two teamed up and see how often they covered.Cause Sleep is the Cousin of DeathComment -
Curious, I guess I'm missing it, can you tell me exactly where the 2nd half lines are? Thanks.Originally posted by curious
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I was sending you NBAStuffer general info. You'll have to look around to find what you want.Originally posted by Flying Dutchman
I have written to them before and asked for specific stats and they sold me what I wanted. You might try that.Comment -
OK, thanks curious. Yeah, I do know them, as NBA is a specialty of mine. Everything they have posted I already have, but in better detail and longer dbs. But I'll post them and see what they have.Originally posted by curious
After Don Best was bought out by Heist...er...Feist I made it a point to never darken their door again no matter what. I simply won't deal with flesh eaters. Carrion like Monkey may go there, but it is a point of honer with me. However that said, I'll happily receive anything that other folks might get and will give something of value back in compensation.
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[QUOTE=lyon804;5013995]Thank you! Did you start doing this also and get tired of fooling with it?
No, it is just what i have. i enter the 2H in my db usually when i am betting nba which is only Dec-Feb andi can easily enter from a line service, otherwise it is from don best scoreboard archive. 2009 i went back thru don best and put them in to the beginning of the season. 2010 i didnt. i believe the db archives line is from CRIS or it used to be. if i entered from db, it is the 2h open number. if from line service it was Greek and usually early morning so it was a closing 2h number. so they are inconsistent as to source and timing.Comment -
man that was alot of clicksComment -
Originally posted by highnine
Thank you so much for giving all that info and the source. I got it all downloaded and if I get something productive out of it you certainly will be included.Comment -
happy to help. i'll post a new data file after the final game on thu. and i didnt click thru all the links, i scraped
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Are those lines from CRIS?Originally posted by highnine
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Originally posted by highninehappy to help. i'll post a new data file after the final game on thu. and i didnt click thru all the links, i scraped
That was very thoughtful and I certainly I appreciate it and I am sure others in this forum will as well.Comment -
don best score archivesOriginally posted by Pancho sanza
i think it is from CRIS, at least it was a few years back when i checked it. have not confirmed it recently.Comment -
What would one have to do to get the scores attached to that file?Originally posted by highnineComment -
final update
this has the last part of 2010.
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what exactly are you asking for? second half points scored, scores by quarter, game scores? all available out there if you look for them.Originally posted by IrishTimComment -
Points by quarter would be best. I know it's out there, just figured I'd ask. Thanks for the file.Originally posted by highnineComment -
Thanks highnine, let me know if there is something you are looking for.Comment -
Do you need a free trial of Don Best to access the historical halftime data? When I was going through past scores, many days either had no information available or were missing summaries for the given games (here, for example).Comment -
how do you open this file so it doesn't appear as gibberish?Originally posted by highninethis has the last part of 2010.
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