Oklahoma State/Texas

grizzlies1 · 10-12-11, 02:44 PM

Top work h man. What site do you use to bet games that are weeks in the future?

nj1035 · 10-12-11, 05:03 PM

A couple interesting tidbits;

Mack Brown has never lost a game after OU. 13-0 in his career.

Last year after the OU game, Texas strolled into Lincoln, Nebraska with 2 losses and beat the No. 5 team in the country. And that Texas team was much worse than this Texas team.

That being said, there isn't much to base a Texas cover on except the early RLM line movement. Possibly a trap game here. But the stats all point to Ok State.

the h man · 10-12-11, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by grizzlies1

Top work h man. What site do you use to bet games that are weeks in the future?

1betvegas.com is the only book I use cuz I got a local agent for it. It has a bunch of future games in the games of the year section.

Gonz312 · 10-12-11, 08:45 PM

The Big 12 is overrated as a whole IMO. There isn't much separating the top teams in the conference aside from OK IMO and that's their defense. And I still don't see them going undefeated either. Most of these schools have weak defenses and turnovers will be the difference in most of these games.

I don't see OK St. defense creating the turnovers and defensive points OK did. If they can take care of the ball themselves, they will win easily.

Mac4Lyfe · 10-12-11, 10:25 PM

Okie State may actually be better than OU. I'm all over OSU in this one...

Pickma$ter · 10-12-11, 10:33 PM

I have been pondering about this game all day. My original play was OSU but after several hours of research and brain storming I must admit I like Texas + the points. Vegas almost got me here, this game is now one of my stronger picks. Weird.

robinhood · 10-12-11, 10:45 PM

You're overthinking. OSU is the play

Pickma$ter · 10-12-11, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by robinhood

You're overthinking. OSU is the play

That was my thought early on. + 2 scores at home will be my offical play.

robinhood · 10-12-11, 11:12 PM

Texas is going to turn the ball over more than OSU and that should result in a 2 score victory.

Pickma$ter · 10-12-11, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by robinhood

Texas is going to turn the ball over more than OSU and that should result in a 2 score victory.

'Only if handicapping was that easy.

robinhood · 10-12-11, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by Pickma$ter

'Only if handicapping was that easy.

I'm not impying it's easy. I'm saying that one variable out of many considered puts it over 2 scores. Just my humble opinion from watching every game both teams have played.

Gonz312 · 10-12-11, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

Okie State may actually be better than OU. I'm all over OSU in this one...

I do think they will beat OU when they play, but I also think they get upset down the road. Maybe at Texas? don't know, but with their defense, turnovers are going to hurt them one of these games. As long as they protect the ball, they will be fine.

Urbanwildlife · 10-13-11, 11:50 AM

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Vin_vermillion · 10-13-11, 11:53 AM

lol. the begining of the end for OSU. They will lose 3 or 4 games this year. what a joke when people buy into this team.

the-phenomenal-1 · 10-13-11, 11:56 AM

osu

osu will cover the 7 points

Vin_vermillion · 10-13-11, 11:58 AM

with you Pick master. The 7.5 is trying to get people to think Vegas wants you on Texas, when in reality they want you on OK st. Line easily could have been OK ST -14 and people would have bet OSU

grizzlies1 · 10-13-11, 03:28 PM

I thought Texas A&M was supposed to be the beginning of the end for OSU??

I don't see how anyone could lay money on Texas this weekend. Too young and inexperienced. And any coach that thinks flip flopping with QB's is the way forward should be fired. See Penn State and how much better LSU have become since it became just Lee's playbook.

I can't speak for everyone but I know what I'm getting with OSU. High powered offense and average/sometimes shaky defense. It will take a team with an incredible defense and top 10 offense to beat them. For me they will most likely run the table until bedlam and then probably lose to OU.

I would back OSU against every team in the NCAA except for LSU, Bama, Wisco, OU and Boise.

Urbanwildlife · 10-13-11, 03:34 PM

Exactly grizzlies1! Some guys on here post stupid ass comments just to get a reaction, and it those that you need to just ignore, so they do not get the attention they are hoping for.

ptrwinn · 10-13-11, 03:39 PM

vegas trap. Everybody and their mommas on ok state. I'm taking Texas and the points. Easy money.

Betn247 · 10-13-11, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by grizzlies1

I thought Texas A&M was supposed to be the beginning of the end for OSU?? I don't see how anyone could lay money on Texas this weekend. Too young and inexperienced. And any coach that thinks flip flopping with QB's is the way forward should be fired. See Penn State and how much better LSU have become since it became just Lee's playbook. I can't speak for everyone but I know what I'm getting with OSU. High powered offense and average/sometimes shaky defense. It will take a team with an incredible defense and top 10 offense to beat them. For me they will most likely run the table until bedlam and then probably lose to OU. I would back OSU against every team in the NCAA except for LSU, Bama, Wisco, OU and Boise.

robinhood · 10-13-11, 07:54 PM

Yeah I'm not touching a side in this game. Over 90% on Ok. St. and the line is moving against Ok. St.

le14 · 10-14-11, 12:31 AM

Trends or not, this UT team is not that good.

I'm riding with OKST and I think they play a full game. I'm riding on the Over as well.

Urbanwildlife · 10-14-11, 12:43 AM

I totally agree with you le14. There is no damn way in hell that Texas can keep up with the Oklahoma State offense. Enjoy your stroll to the pay window!

mp5070 · 10-14-11, 07:53 AM

Oklahoma State ATS
OVER in Game....

Biff Webster · 10-14-11, 08:49 AM

The stat that Texas, under Mack Brown, never losing after the OU game is dumb. Since 2002 they have played the following:

2002: @ #6 Kansas State W 17-14 (Great Win, K-State finished 11-2 that year)
2003: @ Iowa State W 40-19 (Iowa State finished 2-10)
2004: vs. Missouri W 28-20 (Missouri finished 5-6)
2005: vs. Colorado W 42-17 (Texas was amazing this year with Vince Young and won the NC)
2006: vs. Baylor W 63-31 (Baylor finished 4-8)
2007: @ Iowa State W 56-3 (Iowa State finished 3-9)
2008: vs. #11 Missouri W 56-31 (Missou finished 9-4 and lost at home to Ok. State, OU and unranked Kansas)
2009: @ Missouri W 41-7 (Missou finished 8-5 and lost to Nebraska, Ok. State, Baylor and Navy)
2010: @ #5 Nebraska W 20-13 (Texas sucked last year but somehow won in Lincoln)

So other than last years win over Nebraska (which was a fluke), they beat 2 ranked teams the week after OU/TX, a good Kansas State team and an overrated Missouri team. The problem is that they dont have guys like Vince Young or Colt McCoy and their Defense is certainly not near as good. I have tried, but unless there are injuries to OSU or something like that, I cant see Texas staying within 2 touchdowns.

Betn247 · 10-14-11, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by Vin_vermillion

lol. the begining of the end for OSU. They will lose 3 or 4 games this year. what a joke when people buy into this team.

How did your sharp Bets work last night......Bet you were one of the guys saying the beginning of the end was when OSU faced Texas A&M also.....how did that work out for you?????? Keep making your "SHARP" plays and putting money in my pocket!!!!!!!!
OSU big time take the points and even give a little more!

brahmabull117 · 10-14-11, 11:38 PM

OSU's defense is very underrated IMO

the overwhelming majority of their points they've given up this year has been in garbage time when the game was long long long over. They held a solid Arizona offense to 14 points and a GREAT Texas A n M offense to 29 points

OSU will score 38+ points in this game... I just don't see a very inexperienced Texas offense scoring any more than 24-30 points

BB_Mariners · 10-14-11, 11:45 PM

I am staying away from Texas games, as somebody said Texas is unpredictable. Two weeks ago they destroyed Iowa, and last week they looked like a special Olympic team against OU. With Oklahoma offense it should be easy cover, but I am will not play it.

brahmabull117 · 10-15-11, 12:10 AM

Originally posted by BB_Mariners

I am staying away from Texas games, as somebody said Texas is unpredictable. Two weeks ago they destroyed Iowa, and last week they looked like a special Olympic team against OU. With Oklahoma offense it should be easy cover, but I am will not play it.

you mean Iowa St??

Iowa st is fukking horrible bro...

Tanko · 10-15-11, 12:14 AM

Sounds like you don't know wtf you be talking about bro...
ISU beat Iowa and UCONN at UCONN. Seems like someone needs to read the sheets. Sad to say bro.

Originally posted by brahmabull117

you mean Iowa St??

Iowa st is fukking horrible bro...

brahmabull117 · 10-15-11, 12:16 AM

Originally posted by Tanko

Sounds like you don't know wtf you be talking about bro... ISU beat Iowa and UCONN at UCONN. Seems like someone needs to read the sheets. Sad to say bro.

bbmariner was talking about texas beating Iowa St

when did ISU beating Iowa or Uconn come into the discussion?

BigDofBA · 10-15-11, 12:18 AM

Is this another trap game? LMAO.

I remember when OSU played Tulsa and all you morons were on Tulsa. I freaking live in Tulsa and tried to tell you OSU would roll.

Texas sucks. OSU should cover.

Tanko · 10-15-11, 12:18 AM

ISU spotted Tx 20 pts with turnovers in the first half then beat them in the 2nd half. Without the dumass mistakes, they would have made TX wish they never heard of the state. Thats why is matters .... Bro....

antifoil · 10-15-11, 12:20 AM

yeah i wouldn't bet this game. the line is too strange.

since most bettors only look at the previous games and notably a high profile game like last week, the line this week should be inflated on the okla st side because the books know they can add a point or two and still get the public money to come in big on the okla state side.

you have to look at it from the books viewpoint. they are not trying to lose money.

BigDofBA · 10-15-11, 12:26 AM

Originally posted by antifoil

yeah i wouldn't bet this game. the line is too strange. since most bettors only look at the previous games and notably a high profile game like last week, the line this week should be inflated on the okla st side because the books know they can add a point or two and still get the public money to come in big on the okla state side. you have to look at it from the books viewpoint. they are not trying to lose money.

I'm not doing that. I have watched Texas play a lot this year. They aren't very good.

I've watched Oklahoma State play a lot this year. They are good.

Texas has two freshman QBs that are like deer in headlights. Their offensive line isn't good. They have no playmakers at WR, Shipley "will" be good in the future but he isn't there yet. Finally, their RB's are average.

Their d-line is solid and their linebackers are decent. Their secondary sucks.

Much like OU, I expect Weeden and OSU to light them up. Likewise, that gimicky shit Texas runs on offense only works against crap teams that lack speed. I didn't see any of those wildcat plays or sweeps out of shotgun work against OU. In fact, they lost about 80 yards on that trash. Reason being, top 10 teams can run laterally. You may be able to just out run Rice or Iowa State the corner but that won't work against good opposition.

Texas didn't face any decent passing teams early on. Iowa State, UCLA, Rice, ect. Come on. Give me a break. None of those teams can really throw the ball.

The reason Texas was successful early on was because they run a trash defense and blitz everyone. It's effective against crap teams that can't win one on one matches because it forces turnovers but against good teams they are going to get torched.

Watch Weeden pick them apart tomorrow. I see like a 38-21 type game.

It's shocking how badly Texas has evaluated their recruits in recent years. These guys are overrated.