I know Indiana is bad, but +17?

[No coincidences]

In their Big Ten opener at home?

To Penn State?!?!?



Anyway, here are some early leans for this coming weekend:

Virginia Tech -6.5 vs. Clemson
Iowa State +10 vs. Texas
East Carolina +7 vs. North Carolina
Purdue +13 vs. Notre Dame
Arkansas +3 vs. A&M
Utah State +8.5 at BYU
Syracuse -3 vs. Rutgers
Kansas +7.5 vs. Texas Tech

[FindTheLock]

I like Iowa St too. I also think penn st. is not a team to lay 17 on, but that isn't because I think Indiana is good enough to keep it close. I wouldn't bet on that game. I am not so sure about east Carolina either with their turn over problems.

[No coincidences]

I like Iowa St too. I also think penn st. is not a team to lay 17 on, but that isn't because I think Indiana is good enough to keep it close. I wouldn't bet on that game. I am not so sure about east Carolina either with their turn over problems.

If ISU can weather the 1Q storm, they might be able to hang in there. This is a big revenge spot for Texas, though. ISU is very lucky to be 3-0 and it might all come crashing down this week.

[FindTheLock]

The lines are tight this week. A lot games that have some respectable lines. Nothing this week really stands out to me but I did like the Iowa st. line better than some of the other options. I might take the SEC teams and take all the points in every one. I think those will be closer than expected. UF +4.5, Miss St. +7.5, Arkansas +3, Auburn +10.5 and Kentucky +30

[brewcrew2k]

Indiana may be the worst big ten team ever. Penn st wins 28-3

[Lion4Life]

Penn States best defensive player is out with a torn ACL and not sure if corner D'Anton Lynn will be back yet or not after being carted off the field vs EMU.

[BigdaddyQH]

I would not touch Indiana at all this season. They, and their partners in futility (Minnesota) are just terrible.

[HoulihansTX]

Nobody should be betting Penn St until further notice.

[thetrinity]

kinda lean to indiana. penn st hasnt covered yet, i believe neither has indiana. should be a hell of a game.

like kansas and utah st this week.

[t-wizzle]

Indiana is the play. They may win straight up.

[GoBlue23]

Indiana is the play. They may win straight up.

I'm not sure how a team that has already been defeated by two of the worst teams in 1-A is going to win straight up. I agree they have a great shot at the cover, but let's not get carried away here. No way they win SU.

[GoBlue23]

In their Big Ten opener at home?

To Penn State?!?!?



Anyway, here are some early leans for this coming weekend:

Virginia Tech -6.5 vs. Clemson
Iowa State +10 vs. Texas
East Carolina +7 vs. North Carolina
Purdue +13 vs. Notre Dame
Arkansas +3 vs. A&M
Utah State +8.5 at BYU
Syracuse -3 vs. Rutgers
Kansas +7.5 vs. Texas Tech

I like most of these NC...except I think Notre Dame rolls in West Lafayette. Purdue is terrible and ND is a matchup nightmare for them. BOL

[uwack23]

USF vs Pitt -2.5?

[No coincidences]

I like most of these NC...except I think Notre Dame rolls in West Lafayette. Purdue is terrible and ND is a matchup nightmare for them. BOL

Isn't Mavre back at QB?

[thetrinity]

if indiana wins SU, old pa should be forced to ride his hoverround back to state college and promptly retire when he finally makes it back.

[GoBlue23]

Isn't Mavre back at QB?

I believe so...but I don't think he will provide that much of an upgrade over Terbush. Talent wise yes, Marve is far superior. But Terbush played efficiently with 3 TDs and only 1 INT in place of Marve. I don't think Marve's return turns Purdue into an offensive juggarnaut overnight...especially since Terbush played fairly well. Marve is very turnover prone too IMO.

Also, (and you may want to disregard anything I say because of this...which I would understand) I am still one of the idiots who thinks ND is actually a very good team. They do love giving the ball away though . I think this is a good spot for them after the close call with Pitt last week. I also think they have a great shot at winning out...and yes, that includes Stanford. I guess I'm still willing to go down with the ND ship

[ebbearsfb1]

What's the total on psu and inidna?

[HoulihansTX]

What's the total on psu and inidna?

I would make it 47.5

Penn St.'s Yards per play is embarrassingly low.

[thetrinity]

I believe so...but I don't think he will provide that much of an upgrade over Terbush. Talent wise yes, Marve is far superior. But Terbush played efficiently with 3 TDs and only 1 INT in place of Marve. I don't think Marve's return turns Purdue into an offensive juggarnaut overnight...especially since Terbush played fairly well. Marve is very turnover prone too IMO.

Also, (and you may want to disregard anything I say because of this...which I would understand) I am still one of the idiots who thinks ND is actually a very good team. They do love giving the ball away though . I think this is a good spot for them after the close call with Pitt last week. I also think they have a great shot at winning out...and yes, that includes Stanford. I guess I'm still willing to go down with the ND ship

talentwise i agree nd is very good, i can live with dumb mistakes for a game or 2, when they have made them 3 outta 4 games i start thinking twice about it though. nd is a team you really dont get value on very often, since they are such a big name. only time you really get it is when they are playing another big name, purdue doesnt fit the bill IMO.

[ebbearsfb1]

If its 47.5 that under would look mighty swell

[GoBlue23]

talentwise i agree nd is very good, i can live with dumb mistakes for a game or 2, when they have made them 3 outta 4 games i start thinking twice about it though. nd is a team you really dont get value on very often, since they are such a big name. only time you really get it is when they are playing another big name, purdue doesnt fit the bill IMO.

I agree with you 100% on ND's value. There RARELY is any. Week 3 when they were -4.5 (at one point) versus MSU...there was a ton of value in that line. Even -5.5...at home...that was easy. That's also the only time I bet on them this year...mostly cause I went to the UM-ND game and didn't want to bet against my team This week I will consider it though...Purdue is horrid. But I agree the lines are almost always inflated...just like last week @ Pitt.

[t-wizzle]

I'm not sure how a team that has already been defeated by two of the worst teams in 1-A is going to win straight up. I agree they have a great shot at the cover, but let's not get carried away here. No way they win SU.

So Penn State ML is a lock then right? It doesn't' matter that Indiana sucks. This is a big game for them and they will be ready.

[rofacapper]

Looks like the total is 49.5. Seems a bit high to me.

[GoBlue23]

So Penn State ML is a lock then right? It doesn't' matter that Indiana sucks. This is a big game for them and they will be ready.

At what point did I use the "L" word? I'm not brahmabull going around guaranteeing 17pt favorites are locks on the ML. So let me revise my previous statement...Indiana is one of the worst 15 teams in the country, I like them to cover but see them having a very slim chance of winning SU.

Also, I would hope every B10 team is ready for its home conference opener.

Better?

[sports66]

I think Indiana will give them a tough game, I don't know if Penn St. offense is capable of blowing out anyone.

[t-wizzle]

At what point did I use the "L" word? I'm not brahmabull going around guaranteeing 17pt favorites are locks on the ML. So let me revise my previous statement...Indiana is one of the worst 15 teams in the country, I like them to cover but see them having a very slim chance of winning SU. Also, I would hope every B10 team is ready for its home conference opener. Better?

Basically my point is, why are the books only offering +575 ML odds on a 17 point dog? Obviously it's not very likely, but I wouldn't rule out the chance of an upset here. Penn State has major issues right now on offense. If there is some energy in the stadium and Indiana can feed off of it, they could possibly jump out to a lead and hold on.

[ebbearsfb1]

Looks like the total is 49.5. Seems a bit high to me.

I see 47.5... where you seeing 49.5?

[GoBlue23]

Basically my point is, why are the books only offering +575 ML odds on a 17 point dog? Obviously it's not very likely, but I wouldn't rule out the chance of an upset here. Penn State has major issues right now on offense. If there is some energy in the stadium and Indiana can feed off of it, they could possibly jump out to a lead and hold on.

That's a fair assessment. Personally, I think how PSU chooses to handle their QB situation greatly affects Indiana's chances as well. Penn St. would be better served starting and sticking with McGloin in this one IMO. I think Indiana's chances improve vastly if Joe Pa/Tom Bradley/Whoever the hell is running that team keeps up with rotating Bolden in just to stroke his ego. Sit the kid down and let him learn...he he chooses to transfer let him. The only time that offense shows any signs of cohesiveness is when McGloin is under center.

[Lion4Life]

Penn States best defensive player is out with a torn ACL and not sure if corner D'Anton Lynn will be back yet or not after being carted off the field vs EMU.

Lynn is out for the IU game

[t-wizzle]

This line is now 14.5 ... I'm telling you guys keep an eye on this ML. Take the game for a medium-sized play and consider throwing a little on the ML at +500

[sandman0713]

This line is now 14.5 ... I'm telling you guys keep an eye on this ML. Take the game for a medium-sized play and consider throwing a little on the ML at +500

that indiana d will make penn state look like the ducks tomm for real. look at that schedule and they are giving up 4tds per game...maybe one of the bottom 10 d's in the nation. penn state has held 2 teams under 200 yards...one team under 300...and only gave up 350 to bama in a game where it seemed the d was on the field the whole game. 12 points per game they give up. this spread is covered by half in my opinion. rip me if you want to. i am not one of those that will come back and say you are dumb if i am right or any of that crap...but this just looks like a serious blowout to me. maybe i am wrong...have been about 43% of the time so far this year...lol. ml is just giving away money though.

[fecgp40]

You couldn't PAY ME to bet on this game.

[LT Profits]

Indiana is actually my favorite Saturday play as of now.

[rochestertitans]

got um at 16... itll be a 3-5 pt game

[Seaton420]

Indiana is actually my favorite Saturday play as of now.

Thats why your a loser..Indiana is one of the worst teams in the country. Penn St win 34-3. good luck with your pick dick sniffer.