International Bowl - Ball State vs Rutgers

**danno331** · 01-05-08, 09:38 AM

Rutgers looks like the play here even with giving up 11 pts- but looking for more info on how they match-up

**ShamsWoof10** · 01-05-08, 09:42 AM

I like Rutgers...

Both of these teams are 7-5.. Someone needs to explain to me why (with no home field advantage) is the spread 10.5...??? Because Ball State SUCKS and does not deserve to be in the toilet bowl....

JJ you should tease Rutgers down and OSU up for 10K...

If this sounds familiar... I have asked it before... I look for these types of lines..

Originally posted by ShamsWoof10

Someone needs to explain to me why a 6-6 team (with three players suspended) is a 4.5 pt. favorite against a 9-3 team on a netural field...

**DrunkenLullaby** · 01-05-08, 11:15 AM

Mendenhall & Williams of Illinois bent Ball St over and let them know the true meaning of Ball State. I see no reason why Ray Rice shouldn't make them his bitches as well.....and Rutgers' pass D is MUCH better than Illinois'.

**hoggin1** · 01-05-08, 11:19 AM

Why is this game played at this time? It is a bit late in the year for the caliber that these teams bring!

**DrunkenLullaby** · 01-05-08, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by hoggin1

Why is this game played at this time? It is a bit late in the year for the caliber that these teams bring!

If you can tell me why they're playing an American college football game in Toronto, then I'll take a shot at your question.

**King Parlay** · 01-05-08, 11:40 AM

Rice runs for about 200 yards and Ball St. keeps it close with a good passing game. Indoors, on carpet, with a healthy Teal at QB for Rutgers, I like the over.

**pavyracer** · 01-05-08, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by DrunkenLullaby

If you can tell me why they're playing an American college football game in Toronto, then I'll take a shot at your question.

I may be wrong but I think the University of Toronto and the University of Ontario were not Bowl eligible this year. Can someone verify please?

**ShamsWoof10** · 01-05-08, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by DrunkenLullaby

If you can tell me why they're playing an American college football game in Toronto, then I'll take a shot at your question.

To promote the Global expansion of American Football!

GOING GLOBAL!

**danno331** · 01-05-08, 11:55 AM

Taking Rutgers - 11 for 1 unit Go Rutgers

My bk has a lot of bets on Ball St- so he hopes I cover

**DrunkenLullaby** · 01-05-08, 11:56 AM

Giants vs. Dolphins in Wembley made sense....but...

RUTGERS VS. BALL STATE IN TORONTO?

**teazeman** · 01-05-08, 11:58 AM

the entire free world, and most parts of communist china are on rutgers.......

**DrunkenLullaby** · 01-05-08, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by teazeman

the entire free world, and most parts of communist china are on rutgers.......

Those other parts of Communist China must be HEAVY on the Ballers, 'cuz RU's down to -11-104 at Pinny.

**hawk 5** · 01-05-08, 12:04 PM

Rutgers-11, team total over 36, gl all

**ShamsWoof10** · 01-05-08, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by DrunkenLullaby

Giants vs. Dolphins in Wembley made sense....but...

RUTGERS VS. BALL STATE IN TORONTO?

YES! Promoting American Football not just the NFL...

I took Rutgers in a teaser...

Football - 484 Rutgers (Football) -4 for Game
Football - 491 Ohio State (Football) +11 for Game
Football - 479 Washington Redskins/Seattle Seahawks over 31 for Game
Football - 481 Jacksonville Jaguars +5 for Game
Football - 481 Jacksonville Jaguars/Pittsburgh Steelers over 32½ for Game

**hawk 5** · 01-05-08, 12:13 PM

If Teels on this will get ugly fast, 7-0 Rutgers

**JimmyG** · 01-05-08, 12:17 PM

Lotta sharp money on Rutgers...

Good luck to everybody who bet em..lets start Sat with an early win

**DrunkenLullaby** · 01-05-08, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by hawk 5

If Teels on this will get ugly fast, 7-0 Rutgers

Read somewhere else on this board that his thumb feels as good as it has all year - and no-one even knew it was hurt to begin with.

Key is gonna be if Rutgers Pass D is as solid as they were in shutting down Brohm.

**hawk 5** · 01-05-08, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by DrunkenLullaby

Read somewhere else on this board that his thumb feels as good as it has all year - and no-one even knew it was hurt to begin with.

Key is gonna be if Rutgers Pass D is as solid as they were in shutting down Brohm.

That's why I was skiddish on the over.

**DrunkenLullaby** · 01-05-08, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by ShamsWoof10

YES! Promoting American Football not just the NFL...

OK. I guess the next logical stop would be an NAIA game in St. Peter's Square?

Also, I foresee RU going on an all-Rice diet in the 2nd half. Them establishing the pass early here is really gonna f with BSU's minds.

**hawk 5** · 01-05-08, 12:41 PM

Too easy, by the 4th quarter Ball St defenders won't be able to stand up straight.

**ShamsWoof10** · 01-05-08, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by DrunkenLullaby

OK. I guess the next logical stop would be an NAIA game in St. Peter's Square?

.

I don't think they will even exists by the time this happens... There is going to be one major correction in a certain curve in the next 30 years...

**DrunkenLullaby** · 01-05-08, 12:43 PM

(Choc-o-late) Rice, Rice baby!

**ShamsWoof10** · 01-05-08, 12:55 PM

Ok now we need the scoring to calm down some... I got Under 17 second q...

**DrunkenLullaby** · 01-05-08, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by ShamsWoof10

Ok now we need the scoring to calm down some... I got Under 17 second q...

Looks like we should be all good. You can even give me an RU TD before the half & cover.

**DrunkenLullaby** · 01-05-08, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by DrunkenLullaby

(Choc-o-late) Rice, Rice baby!

**hawk 5** · 01-05-08, 01:40 PM

I like how the 1st half went, Ball St way out classed.

**hawk 5** · 01-05-08, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by DrunkenLullaby

**ShamsWoof10** · 01-05-08, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by DrunkenLullaby

Looks like we should be all good. You can even give me an RU TD before the half & cover.

Why are these always so f*ckin' close...

If they make Rutgers a big fav. for second half take them...

**hawk 5** · 01-05-08, 01:53 PM

I think I dealt myself a winning hand and will stay pat.

**DrunkenLullaby** · 01-05-08, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by ShamsWoof10

Why are these always so f*ckin' close...

Because coaches, even good ones, are afraid to do things that are mathematically best for them because in the unlikely event they backfire the media will hound them.

Example: RU had 2nd & goal at the BSU 1 with 50 seconds left in the half. Almost zero chance that BSU can stop them on one attempt from the 1, let alone 3 attempts. On 2nd down they should run Rice or QB sneak Teel but tell him not to break the plane, then go in on 3rd or 4th down. Why? Because BSU would never had had a chance to drive for that FG if they burn another 30 seconds off the clock. Simple, but important.

**ShamsWoof10** · 01-05-08, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by DrunkenLullaby

Because coaches, even good ones, are afraid to do things that are mathematically best for them because in the unlikely event they backfire the media will hound them.

Example: RU had 2nd & goal at the BSU 1 with 50 seconds left in the half. Almost zero chance that BSU can stop them on one attempt from the 1, let alone 3 attempts. On 2nd down they should run Rice or QB sneak Teel but tell him not to break the plane, then go in on 3rd or 4th down. Why? Because BSU would never had had a chance to drive for that FG if they burn another 30 seconds off the clock. Simple, but important.

They didn't even have to do that... When i turned it back on I saw them get that first and goal... Then on 2nd down they could have ran it almost all the way down... They hurried to the line...

Anyway I might take BSU +3 3rd q and under 14 but not sure yet... Nervous about BSU...

F*ck I tried taking them both and ended up with NONE.... I waited a hair too long... DAMN!

**DrunkenLullaby** · 01-05-08, 02:11 PM

I just don't see anyway they can stop the Rice train if he wants to continue to pile up yardage. And Teel+Britt+Underwood did enough in the 1st half to keep BSU from putting 10 in the box....but we'll see....I've been wrong before.

**DrunkenLullaby** · 01-05-08, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by DrunkenLullaby

(Choc-o-late) Rice, Rice baby!

**hawk 5** · 01-05-08, 02:26 PM

90 yards up the middle, need 1 more of those and no more Ball St to cash