Pacific Life Holiday Bowl - Arizona State vs Texas

rjt721 · 12-03-07, 12:16 AM

Very good game.

manny24 · 12-03-07, 12:48 PM

i'm sick of seeing the horns play from behind all season. need to hook 'em early and often. going to be a great game going over the total. texas to the house!

xxProviderxx · 12-03-07, 01:37 PM

This will be a good game to Tease TX, TX will need points, but not many. I dont see them winning this game.

Louisvillekid1 · 12-03-07, 02:43 PM

Texas will show there edge in class and experience in this one. Arizona St. has been struggling as of late, and i look for that to continue. Dont know the line on this one yet but look for texas to control the clock through the air and on the ground. Texas wins in this spot. Texas 31 - 21

LT Profits · 12-03-07, 07:53 PM

ASU should feel snubbed for not getting a BCS Bowl, and I still think Texas is overrated.

mv09 · 12-03-07, 10:07 PM

Check out the comments below the article, talk about the Longhorns imploding.

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Mack Brown says every position is open.
This can only help Texas.
They are a bit overrated, but Ive never been sold on ASU.
I think Texas can win this one. Ill watch tape and comment more later.

bigdog3580 · 12-04-07, 12:40 AM

Should be a great game. These two teams have never met. This is the only bowl game played on Dec 27th. Erickson vs. Brown. ASU has lost both Holiday Bowl appearances it has played. While Texas is 1-2 in this bowl, losing the latter two games in 2000 and 2003.
Have to see what the line is and if Carpenters thumb is healed up in 3-4 weeks. I would think Texas would be favored by 1 maybe 2 points.

LT Profits · 12-04-07, 07:10 AM

Yes bigdog, Texas -1.5

Ted Stickle · 12-10-07, 08:13 PM

UT wins it and at least 75 points scored.

old threads · 12-11-07, 11:30 AM

Homer vote for Texas to cover. I only bet 10 units total on college bowls and the over 61.5 was one of my wagers.

BUCK82 · 12-26-07, 11:02 AM

Fella's please understand this...this bowl features a pair of head coaches with National Championships. Both of these squads seem to fall behind early in games and rally back. For betting purposes, I followed Texas closely all year and they never won or covered on back to back games. They finsihed the year AGAIN getting upset to in state rival Texas A&M. Look at D. Erickson and ASU. They beat Arizona in their last game but they did not cover any of their final 4 games! I honestly see these as two even teams but the Sun Devils get the edge since they are the team in this sistuation thrilled about being in this bowl. Texas on the other hand is 0-5 against the spread on non New Years Day bowls. Plus didn't they expect to be national title contenders or at the minimum in a BCS bowl when the season beagn? I believe so. I'm taking Arizona State and the 2.5 point becuase they are more than likely going to win this one outright.

area51steve · 12-27-07, 01:07 AM

Arizona State +2.5

Rudy Carpenter should have a big game against this texas defense. Carpenter has thrown for 7 touchdowns and just 1 INT over his last 5 games, and Texas allowed 276 passing yards per game on the season.

Holiday bowl favorites are 1-8 ATS in the last 9.

Texas is 2-10 ATS in its last 12 as a bowl favorite.

louisvillekid · 12-27-07, 02:25 AM

Ari. St. +2.5

Razz · 12-27-07, 02:29 AM

Two teams who beat nobody this year. Their best wins are against Central Florida and Arizona, (dis)respectfully. I don't have either of these teams in my top 20, and a December 27th bowl fits them about right.

With that said, I'm surprised that the consensus - not necessarily here, but on ESPN, around the forums, etc. - is slanted heavily towards Arizona State. I'm not going to be playing Texas (I just can't lay points with Mack Brown/Colt McCoy against Dennis Erickson/Rudy Carpenter), but everything tells me that is the right side.

I don't think the Holiday Bowl underdogs trend is relevant. The Holiday Bowl dog is generally an automatic play for me, but it's because one of the teams is disappointed to be there, because it feels it should be in the BCS or some other elite bowl game. That's not the case this year. If either team feels snubbed, it is the Sun Devils. I expect a pretty good effort out of Texas after the loss to A&M and the lackluster performance last year.

greek · 12-27-07, 07:27 AM

zona state and the over

onlooker · 12-27-07, 10:19 AM

I have this one being a pick em. So needless to say if I was to play it, I would have to take the points with ASU +2.5. I have the total around 56. So the UNDER 62 would also be a lean.

No plays. Good luck guys.

minet123 · 12-27-07, 10:46 AM

I like AZ St to win outright and look for the total to go over

perhapsnot · 12-27-07, 11:20 AM

Ariz St. ml and over. Texas defense is leakin oil, and they are prone to turnovers.

jaymes93 · 12-27-07, 01:01 PM

I think Texas is looking to bounce back from a upset by instate rival A&M, i look for texas to win this one in a close one.
UT-35
ASU-27

RJBucs · 12-27-07, 03:10 PM

Why is everyone so on arizona st still? I haven't been sold on them all season. call me crazy but im taking Texas here by a touchdown. 34-27

ronniejamedio · 12-27-07, 03:38 PM

we've seen both teams play well and play bad. I thinking devils and over here since both defenses dont have much going

awhitejackson · 12-27-07, 04:44 PM

I like ASU in this game to win by 7. Colt McCoy has thrown only 21 TD's To 18 INTs this season forcing Texas to go to the run a bit. ASU has a strong run defense.. and the throwing abilities of ASU QB have been consistant all season. Only worry is the pass protection that ASU has...Very slow O line that could lead (and has led to) many sacks..Dont underestimate ASU secondary, have been strong all season (not counting USC game, but Colt McCoy has not been a J.D. Booty passer this season)... No way Colt McCoy throws at will over this D. Leaning towards under but not going to bet this... Middle seems to be based on Texas vs A&M game and ASU vs. USC games...A close look at the rest of seasons shows that cappers are looking at Offense a little too much this game.... ASU 31 Texas 24... GL to me and everyone else

ASU + 2.5 3 Units
Under 62 (maybe) 1 Unit

SportsLockPicks · 12-27-07, 05:12 PM

just got done with the numbers on this one, and after handicapping it i understand why it is split down the middle on the side in this one, its tough...but i haven't come out with a more clear cut opinion on a TOTAL in over a month...in ANY sport, i'll give you all a hint...i don't see this one cracking 44pts. SportsLockPicks is selling UNDER 62 tonight Sun Devils/Longhorns HAMMER IT HARD 20*

xyzky · 12-27-07, 06:19 PM

First Half-Under

I will be on ASU (+1.5) and the Under (31.5) in the first half. I think both teams will get off to slow starts and ASU will be either tied or winning at half time.

GL Everyone

rjt721 · 12-27-07, 06:35 PM

ASU's run defense is very strong, and with Sweed out for UT, ASU can focus entirely on stopping Charles. Huge coaching and QB advantage for ASU.

Mrtk31 · 12-27-07, 07:33 PM

I took the dog and the over because Texas was expected by most experts to do more (letdown) and ASU has a better defense.

onlooker · 12-28-07, 01:10 AM

Arizona State turnovers did them in. 3 tipped interceptions, what bad luck for them.

Arizona State 34
Texas 52

RJBucs · 12-28-07, 01:59 AM

Im glad I went against the grain. UT to the bank.

xyzky · 12-28-07, 10:08 AM

Crappy Game

Embarrassing output by ASU, I am embarrassed that I bet them….

Mrtk31 · 12-28-07, 12:10 PM

That's why there's never been a sure thing in sports.
And maybe we get the tips today!