Bell Helicopter Armed Forces Bowl - California vs Air Force
Fort Worth, Texas - December 31, 2007, 12:30 p.m. EST - ESPN
Lets get the discussion going on this bowl game between California and Air Force.
Louisvillekid1
SBR Aristocracy
10-17-07
52143
#2
CAL sucks, air force wants this more. 22 - 19
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mv09
SBR Wise Guy
09-20-07
800
#3
I see value in Cal here.
It was my worst line set of the season. I set the line at -9 and it was at -4.
I like Cal to win and cover easily.
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onlooker
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08-10-05
36572
#4
451 Air Force ML +160
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Mr Handicapable
SBR Hall of Famer
09-23-07
6067
#5
3 Cal stars suspended!!
Cal coach Tedford suspended 3 starters including the best player in this game..WR Jackson! I was going to play the Bears with the huge speed advantage but can't play them now!! Air Force will have the crowd and is far more satisfied to be here today!! No play for me or maybe a little on AF ML
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ShamsWoof10
SBR MVP
11-15-06
4827
#6
Someone needs to explain to me why a 6-6 team (with three players suspended) is a 4.5 pt. favorite against a 9-3 team on a netural field...
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hanco21
SBR MVP
01-19-06
3414
#7
Originally posted by Mr Handicapable
Cal coach Tedford suspended 3 starters including the best player in this game..WR Jackson! I was going to play the Bears with the huge speed advantage but can't play them now!! Air Force will have the crowd and is far more satisfied to be here today!! No play for me or maybe a little on AF ML
From what I heard everyone is on the over and the way Air Force running the ball and Cal missing their best reciever wouldn't the under be a good play?
Leaning towards the under
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ShamsWoof10
SBR MVP
11-15-06
4827
#8
Originally posted by hanco21
From what I heard everyone is on the over and the way Air Force running the ball and Cal missing their best reciever wouldn't the under be a good play?
Leaning towards the under
I agree with you the under is the play...
Cal. under total points is also a good play at 31
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sweetj
SBR Rookie
10-01-07
15
#9
the problem with air force is that any kind of holding, tackle for loss or negative play ispretty much as good as a turnover. but air force is pretty disciplined...
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hanco21
SBR MVP
01-19-06
3414
#10
Originally posted by ShamsWoof10
I agree with you the under is the play...
Cal. under total points is also a good play at 31
25 mph breeze also
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ShamsWoof10
SBR MVP
11-15-06
4827
#11
Originally posted by hanco21
25 mph breeze also
Yes I noticed... I ended up not taking Cal. and took the under... Did you take the under as well..?
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hanco21
SBR MVP
01-19-06
3414
#12
Originally posted by ShamsWoof10
Yes I noticed... I ended up not taking Cal. and took the under... Did you take the under as well..?
yes....4 out 5 runs love it
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remmy358
SBR MVP
07-18-07
2199
#13
air force running all over cal...should be 21-3 or 21-7 at half
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Mr Handicapable
SBR Hall of Famer
09-23-07
6067
#14
Cal looks confused on the option! Hardly anyone runs it anymore and definitely nobody in the Pac 10!!
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remmy358
SBR MVP
07-18-07
2199
#15
i'm suprised air force is so good. i don't see a black guy out there
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ShamsWoof10
SBR MVP
11-15-06
4827
#16
I don't think they look confused I think they just get off their blocks... If you are confused you can figure it out but if you can't get off blocks that is much harder to fix...
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hanco21
SBR MVP
01-19-06
3414
#17
Originally posted by remmy358
air force running all over cal...should be 21-3 or 21-7 at half
that was a little too easy. if cal scores the total could be in jeopardy
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DaColts
SBR MVP
09-07-07
1185
#18
AF rolling
On AF +4.5 Cal Cant Stop the option that they havent seen
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Mr Handicapable
SBR Hall of Famer
09-23-07
6067
#19
I was going to bet the Over til I heard Jackson was out! Cal never plays any D and all those white boys at Air Force give up so much speed that they're forced to play deep and Cal should be able to work underneath all day!
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hanco21
SBR MVP
01-19-06
3414
#20
that was huge...nice drop
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Mr Handicapable
SBR Hall of Famer
09-23-07
6067
#21
WTF?? Cal's going for it on 4th/16 in the 1st quarter?? Almost made it but isn't that a little desperate for the 1st quarter? Ok with me since I'm on the Falcons
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DaColts
SBR MVP
09-07-07
1185
#22
thats was good for the under
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ShamsWoof10
SBR MVP
11-15-06
4827
#23
Hey watch this clock operator he must have bones on the under too.... You are supposed to stop the clock when you get a first down but they let it run a few seconds... A few seconds ran off on that incomplete pass Cal. threw to the middle of the endzone... The clock operator doesn't seem to do it when Air Force has the ball but he does it when Cal. has it...
Watch and see if the operator keeps doing it...
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hanco21
SBR MVP
01-19-06
3414
#24
Originally posted by ShamsWoof10
Hey watch this clock operator he must have bones on the under too.... You are supposed to stop the clock when you get a first down but they let it run a few seconds... A few seconds ran off on that incomplete pass Cal. threw to the middle of the endzone... The clock operator doesn't seem to do it when Air Force has the ball but he does it when Cal. has it...
Watch and see if the operator keeps doing it...
I saw that too after an incomplete pass 5 seconds went off. Nice!!!
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Yung Mula
SBR Rookie
12-25-07
44
#25
Originally posted by ShamsWoof10
Someone needs to explain to me why a 6-6 team (with three players suspended) is a 4.5 pt. favorite against a 9-3 team on a netural field...
Look at conference and strength of schedules. Also, Cal was looking like a #1 team in the first few weeks.
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ShamsWoof10
SBR MVP
11-15-06
4827
#26
Originally posted by hanco21
I saw that too after an incomplete pass 5 seconds went off. Nice!!!
Exactly!! It went from 3:08 to 3:03 then it stopped... Let's pay attention to the operator and see if he keeps doing it..
Yeah look qb just got a first and clock is still rolling... HAHAHA
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MJFtheGenius
SBR Hall of Famer
05-31-07
7257
#27
Why did I take Cal!!!!!!!
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hanco21
SBR MVP
01-19-06
3414
#28
there it goes again. Out of bounds, I love that guy
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ShamsWoof10
SBR MVP
11-15-06
4827
#29
HAHAHAHA he went out of bounds and it STILL ticked...
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hanco21
SBR MVP
01-19-06
3414
#30
This could get ugly! I am just hope Cal doesn't score.
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Mr Handicapable
SBR Hall of Famer
09-23-07
6067
#31
WR Jackson and their leading tackler (name?) are coming in according to the announcers so don't party in the streets yet AF backers..lol!!
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hanco21
SBR MVP
01-19-06
3414
#32
Cal's D sucks...
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Mr Handicapable
SBR Hall of Famer
09-23-07
6067
#33
Ok Air Force gets another TD!! Has Cal practiced defending the option at all?? This is ridiculous...how easy this shit is...LMAO!!
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Mr Handicapable
SBR Hall of Famer
09-23-07
6067
#34
uh-oh?? Jackson comes in and immediately scores then AF goes 3 & out. Here comes another one like yesterday when Bama jumped up 27-0 then had to hang on?
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remmy358
SBR MVP
07-18-07
2199
#35
cal right back in game due to air force's lack of aggressiveness