Hawaii should be in Pac 10 &big time football program.

[BrentCrude]

I could never figure out why Hawaii is in the Mountain West where they should be able to attract top recruits and play in the Pac10.You would think that kids would flock to Hawaii.Maybe the weather and everything else is too good whereit would be a distraction for them.Hell,travel is a part of it but what 18 year old kid wants his parents coming to every practice and game.

[BigdaddyQH]

Hawaii, een with June Jones, has never had a BCS Competitive program. Look what happens to them when they play BCS teams. In the past 5 years, their record is 5-11. Then add on all of the other sports, and Hawaii rarely has a competitive team.

[The DiB]

41-10 much?

[steve18]

Hawaii would be a 6-7 win team at best in the Pac 10 maybe. They haven't proved much since June Jones left.

[kalamity85]

Even with June Jone they didn't deserve to go to a BCS championship game. that season had REALLY (overtime) close games with some mid level WAC teams and they were losing 21-0 against washington (who was the worst pac-10 team at the time) in the first quarter at home. hawaii would be competitive in softball, waterpolo, both men's and women's volleyball, and to a lesser extent baseball and MAYBE tennis. but football and basketball (the two cash sports), no way in hell.

[CLASSIC ROCK]

yea don't agree that hawaii could handle the level of competition

[redrum]

nice place to visit but do u really want to stay over there 4 yrs-5yrs

[HoulihansTX]

nice place to visit but do u really want to stay over there 4 yrs-5yrs

Exactly, and you are so far from your family. They cant even see half of your games. Plus the travel schedule is horrid for players. You spend weeks at a time in hotels across the west coast, and have to travel as far as LA Tech.

[iwantcougars]

If they recruit all the samoans, they at least should had one of the best D's

[Cookie Monster]

There was also a problem that games played in Hawaii do not count towards the minimum 6 needed for bowl eligibility, or was it changed?

[rwsmith]

hawaii is just good for a probation team that is band for post season.

[Kustac]

Hawaii is a team that does well with what it has, given the talent level, location, and population size to mainly recruit from

[JMUplayer]

They should be thankful they are in the WAC.. * cough cough * OP
they would get killed in the mountain west.

[rossta4i]

With all football programs it all comes down to is MONEY. Hawaii didn't charge an athletic fees towards tuition of students. But, it will come into effect this fall semester of $50.00 per semester, which is peanuts compared to what other universities charge (upwards of 150 per semester). When June Jones was in Hawaii his recruiting budget was $50,000, now compare that to BCS schools or MWC for instance. For mens sports there recruiting budget is $190,000 (all Mens sports) it's one of the smallest in NCAA D1.

With the talent we were putting on the field they did beat purdue, oregon st, arizona st, alabama, michigan st, BYU when ranked 5th in nation, northwestern. Now what does these schools have that
Hawaii doesn't have...MONEY. My opinion is "if" hawaii had BCS money they could put out a competitive team.

[rossta4i]

Hawaii, een with June Jones, has never had a BCS Competitive program. Look what happens to them when they play BCS teams. In the past 5 years, their record is 5-11. Then add on all of the other sports, and Hawaii rarely has a competitive team.

The university never gave June Jones what he asked for to put a more competitive team on the field. Practice facilities was average at best, heck the school couldn't even provide soap in the locker room.

Now other sports Hawaii did make it to softball college world series and baseball won the WAC. Both Volleyball teams made it to the final fours, water polo team was ranked high as 4. I'm just saying money has alot to do with what kind of talent you can get to your school.

[8badtuna]

I hear they dont spend any money on their athletics and their facilities are awful.

[Shelton]

i agree they should go

[DrunkHorseplayer]

The PAC-10 should be seeking Boise State.

[Cookie Monster]

I could never figure out why Hawaii is in the Mountain West where they should be able to attract top recruits and play in the Pac10.

They are not in Mountain West. They are in WAC.

[scarp]

Hawaii first of all isn't a good enough team to even get considered in pac10

[teaserpleaser]

Hawaii would be a 6-7 win team at best in the Pac 10 maybe. They haven't proved much since June Jones left.

program went downhill in a hurry.

[teaserpleaser]

The PAC-10 should be seeking Boise State.

This ... i had hope

[CLASSIC ROCK]

would like to see bosie st. in a major conference

[SportsLoft]

if I was a recruit I would rather play in Hawaii than most NCAA programs. Living in Honolulu over places like Austin, Manhatten Kansas, Pullum Washington, small town Virginia.

I get the idea that many small town football programs are great on tradition and history. But the majority of these players aren't bright enough to realize this until years and years after their playing days.

[The DiB]

if I was a recruit I would rather play in Hawaii than most NCAA programs. Living in Honolulu over places like Austin, Manhatten Kansas, Pullum Washington, small town Virginia.

I get the idea that many small town football programs are great on tradition and history. But the majority of these players aren't bright enough to realize this until years and years after their playing days.

While Honolulu may be nice, Hawaii isn't exactly known for their facilities / putting people in the league, which is what most of these recruits really want.

[Rig]

shouldnt there be some sort of distance limit??
i mean why dont we add eastern china too?