Phil Steel's Top 25?

**Ch3fDan** · 05-27-10, 07:37 PM

I like seeing Boise down at 6 rather than at 2 which I have seen in a bunch of poles. They are a quality team but I refuse to believe they are worthy of being ranked #2 before the season.

Notre Dame at 16 is ridiculous to me, what have they done to deserve that ranking?

**BigdaddyQH** · 05-28-10, 08:42 AM

To me, the whole thing is ridiculous. Forst, Boise State deserves to be higher than #6. They certainly can beat TCU and have already proven they can beat OU. They did so when OU had a better team than they do today and Boise had a worse team than they do today. I agree that Notre Dame is ranked way too high. So is USC, Miami, and Oregon. Iowa at 14 and Wisconsin at 23 are way too low. How can Steele rate Penn State ahead of Wisconsin? Penn State goes to Ohio State, Iowa and Alabama. Wisconsin hosts Ohio State. Steele often goes off the deep end, but this year, he and his crew have jumped off a cliff.

**iwantcougars** · 05-28-10, 11:13 AM

south carolina At 21, i'm sure this is a joke

**The DiB** · 05-28-10, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by Ch3fDan

I like seeing Boise down at 6 rather than at 2 which I have seen in a bunch of poles. They are a quality team but I refuse to believe they are worthy of being ranked #2 before the season.

Notre Dame at 16 is ridiculous to me, what have they done to deserve that ranking?

And this is why college football needs to get rid of these absurd pre-season polls. How do you know how good these teams are when none of them played a down? Pre-season rankings have too much of an effect on the season before it even starts; they practically eliminate everybody not in the top 5 from the NC. Especially since we're in the BCS era without a playoff. Wait until these teams have played a few games.

**The DiB** · 05-28-10, 12:16 PM

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Phil Steele does his rankings on how he projects the teams to FINISH, not to start. He projecting Oklahoma will finish #1 in the polls.

So with Boise St 6th in his poll, it looks like he has them losing to Vtech or Oregon State. Also explains why he has Penn State above Wisconsin, etc.

**BigdaddyQH** · 05-28-10, 07:52 PM

I am not sure what he is doing. My only guess is that he thinks that Va Tech will beat Boise, but lose on the road to UNC and Miami. He does not have Oregon State ranked at all, so I doubt that he thinks Boise loses to them. But if Boise State loses, surely they will drop out of the TOp 10. As far as Penn State and Wisconsin go, they do not play each other, and Wisky has the easier of the schedules. Both may lose to Ohio State and Iowa, but Penn State has a trip to Tuscaloosa, and the toughest non-con game Wisconsin has is hosting Arizona State. So those ranking make no sense at all.

**daneblazer** · 05-28-10, 11:10 PM

South Carolina will have a good team. Whether or not their schedule lets them have a good record is another story.

**chiefw** · 05-29-10, 12:02 AM

Where was this "leaked" from? Just curious to see how this "leak" stacks up to his real release.

BD, do you have something against Steele? It seems like you have a bone to pick when I look around the 'net and see other posts about the guy. Do you know him? Or did he take some of your cash?

**WDunnNole** · 05-29-10, 12:57 AM

Originally posted by The DiB

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Phil Steele does his rankings on how he projects the teams to FINISH, not to start. He projecting Oklahoma will finish #1 in the polls.

So with Boise St 6th in his poll, it looks like he has them losing to Vtech or Oregon State. Also explains why he has Penn State above Wisconsin, etc.

I believe that is how he ranks, at least his top 40 section.

Miami at 9 is

to say the least, but I'm biased.

**The DiB** · 05-29-10, 07:32 AM

It was leaked a few days ago online. Then he came on tv today and revealed the same rankings.

**BigdaddyQH** · 05-29-10, 08:22 AM

Originally posted by chiefw

Where was this "leaked" from? Just curious to see how this "leak" stacks up to his real release.

BD, do you have something against Steele? It seems like you have a bone to pick when I look around the 'net and see other posts about the guy. Do you know him? Or did he take some of your cash?

He never took any of my cash. I knew him years ago when he and his family was basically going it alone, even though they were involved in several alleged tout scams, and got into some trouble. Now he is semi-retired. His organization has done a great job with the Magazines. I would say that they have improved 100% over the years. I do think that some of their predictions are wild and way off base, but they are touts, and trying to "grab headlines" if you will,swo they come out with some off the wall picks.

Touts today have it tough. First, there are literally hundreds of them out there. Most have failed to make it on their own and have to join forces. Look at Jim Feist. Years ago he was at the top of the latter tout wise. Then he make a fatal Superbowl Prediction on his T.V. show and it has been all downhill since. I will do a write-up on touts later on.

**Kustac** · 05-31-10, 11:17 PM

I can't follow the logic behind some of these, but hey if it works for him then I guess they're good rankings

**mertabi** · 06-01-10, 04:29 AM

Well, I'm willing to give it a shot..

**BigdaddyQH** · 06-01-10, 08:37 AM

By give it a shot, do you meanwager that OU is #1, or buy the Magazine?

**rwsmith** · 06-01-10, 08:40 AM

I just dont see auburn being above penn state

**BigdaddyQH** · 06-01-10, 08:50 AM

Both teams play Alabama on the road, so we can expect a loss for both teams in that game. Penn State is facing two more losses, at Iowa and at Ohio State. Auburn faces Clemson, Arkansas, LSU, and Georgia at home. A split there gives them the same record as Penn State. Now I think they beat Clemson, but Arkansas, LSU and Georgia can be very difficult games for them.

**iwantcougars** · 06-01-10, 08:58 AM

Originally posted by The DiB

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Phil Steele does his rankings on how he projects the teams to FINISH, not to start. He projecting Oklahoma will finish #1 in the polls.\

them it makes sense, except for notre dame and south carolina, but i'm sure he has put lot of work and sleepless night and have more accurate info than most of us

**BigdaddyQH** · 06-01-10, 09:01 AM

Very little of this makes sense to me. I do not have OU winning the Big 12 South, much less the Big 12 and NC.

**Jrod124** · 06-01-10, 11:58 AM

Me too BD, OU no. 1 is crazy

**HoldEmHook!!** · 06-01-10, 10:51 PM

Steele is a tard

**patswin** · 06-02-10, 07:53 AM

when does the annual come out? should be soon

**BigdaddyQH** · 06-02-10, 09:47 AM

June 8th. The Magazine, like many others, is very good for information. Just do not believe the predictions. Make your own predictions. This holds true for every football magazine out there.