Nc -2

**HoulihansTX** · 10-19-09, 01:22 PM

NC State has no defense.

Bet the OVER

**Ralphie1412** · 10-19-09, 01:23 PM

tarheels not wolfpack

**Ca$hfloW** · 10-19-09, 01:25 PM

Originally posted by Ralphie1412

tarheels not wolfpack

haha no problem but yes im asking about the tarheels.. what are your thoughts on that game i love NC-2

**Ralphie1412** · 10-19-09, 01:27 PM

I actually like FLA st. UNC hasnt shown me anything and FSU is due to show up one of these days like they did against BYU. Tarheels cant put points up. Im most likely gonna stay away from the week games, nothing really jumps out at me.

**Ca$hfloW** · 10-19-09, 01:46 PM

I see your point but NC 14 points a game is pretty impressive and with FSU lack of moving the ball I think this could be a low scoring game in favor of NC... the under is starting to sound ALOT better now that we are talking about it

**Dbldown11** · 10-19-09, 01:48 PM

I agree completely with Ralphie. NC hasnt impressed me AT ALL plus Florida St. can score

**thespeculator** · 10-19-09, 01:49 PM

**Ca$hfloW** · 10-19-09, 01:50 PM

ok well if yal both agree with each other I will stay away from the game

**Ralphie1412** · 10-19-09, 01:55 PM

UNC unders have been money but I dont think thats due to their defense. Its because they cant score. Tate or whatever his name is isnt good without Hakeem Nicks bailing him out with circus catches. FSU is due for a victory and a lack luster tar heel team might be just the medicine.

**Ca$hfloW** · 10-19-09, 02:47 PM

If i touch it im going with the under small play though seems like the logical play

**Ralphie1412** · 10-19-09, 04:00 PM

more I look at this FLA st miiiight be a play.

**Cougar Bait** · 10-19-09, 04:29 PM

I think I may make Florida State a small play as well. Seminoles have owned this series through the years (if you use that in your capping criteria). Seminoles have won by at least 13 every year they have played one another since 1996. Only once did the Heels get a win. Not that I put a LOT of stock into this, but it's interesting. Also, FSU has played a MUCH tougher schedule: BYU, South Florida, Boston College, and Georgia Tech if late. That may account for some of the difference in defensive stats.

**Ralphie1412** · 10-19-09, 04:32 PM

agreed

**jds07v** · 10-19-09, 06:22 PM

i am a current fsu student. Let me give you a simple scouting report. This is by far the most inconsistent team i have seen fsu be. The offense is very dangerous as we have speedy playmakers on offense. The cause for the inconsistent play is the red zone offense. Against Miami, USF, and BC we struggled to punch it in and that was the difference between a win and a loss

Defensively, we just plain suck. The pass rush has not been effective since the byu game. Even though we run a true free safety and quite a bit of cover 2, we get burnt down the field multiple times per game. We are also a horribly tackling team.

Strangely, I am on fsu for this one. This is not bias as the only fsu bet i have made this year was the miami over. GT was able to run point for point with FSU. i dont see UNC being able to replicate this