Navy (-7.5) @ SMU a lock? It looks like it...

Buckeye4Life · 10-14-09, 12:20 PM

Ya I was in on this since Monday. I don't see SMU stopping the Navy offense

2daBank · 10-14-09, 02:16 PM

Beware of june jones he has started 2 get smu looking like the old team from da islands know1 wanted to play

Dbldown11 · 10-14-09, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by 2daBank

Beware of june jones he has started 2 get smu looking like the old team from da islands know1 wanted to play

If you're trying to use "cool" online lingo to reduce your typing. Like "2" and "da" why waste the energy typing "know1", when you really meant no 1. That's 2 whole extra letters you had to type.

Just busting balls man

2daBank · 10-14-09, 02:23 PM

MATTER OF FACT I WOULD USUALLY USE NO1 NOT SURE Y I DIDNT PROBLY CAUSE I LOOK AT KEYBOARD AND TRY 2 TYPE AS FAST AS MY BRAIN SPITS SHIT OUT TALK FAST ALSO NOT SURE TRYIN 2 B KOOL JUST EFFICIENT! it all good though. doesntr change fa fact that i think 7.5 is a str8 gift for smu

Dbldown11 · 10-14-09, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by 2daBank

MATTER OF FACT I WOULD USUALLY USE NO1 NOT SURE Y I DIDNT PROBLY CAUSE I LOOK AT KEYBOARD AND TRY 2 TYPE AS FAST AS MY BRAIN SPITS SHIT OUT TALK FAST ALSO NOT SURE TRYIN 2 B KOOL JUST EFFICIENT! it all good though. doesntr change fa fact that i think 7.5 is a str8 gift for smu

haha cool cool.

2daBank · 10-14-09, 02:28 PM

by da way dbl i respect da shit out of your capping and being the degenerate that im am road w ur ark st pick all da way. fuk the haters everything you said bout that gm was pretty on point 2 me if it wasnt for qb just laying ball on ground w/o any contact or da fukin 16 flags would have wcashed and i saw enough in 1st half to take ark st in da 2nd so didnt turn out 2 bad. gl on your plays this weekend

iLogan · 10-14-09, 02:28 PM

I overlooked this, I will get on this one definitely.

Dbldown11 · 10-14-09, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by 2daBank

by da way dbl i respect da shit out of your capping and being the degenerate that im am road w ur ark st pick all da way. fuk the haters everything you said bout that gm was pretty on point 2 me if it wasnt for qb just laying ball on ground w/o any contact or da fukin 16 flags would have wcashed and i saw enough in 1st half to take ark st in da 2nd so didnt turn out 2 bad. gl on your plays this weekend

TY sir. appreciate the comments. GL to you as well

Dbldown11 · 10-14-09, 02:31 PM

And I'll post it here just to remind people that don't know, I told it to Dreezy earlier.....

I'm personally not on this game, and don't have any thoughts on it either. Don't know enough about either team.

HOWEVER

pags11 is on SMU this week I believe...not saying SMU is the winner, but betting opposite of Pags is a losing proposition in the long run

2daBank · 10-14-09, 02:33 PM

any thought on 2nites gm dont think ive seen u mention it anywhere? i fukin hate these espn weeknight gms drive me crazy if i could just wait till sat and sunday id be up double what i am right now

really cant see boise losing this 1 but hate being w the public and def hate ridin w them on weeknight gm hopin they right on boise wrong on da over

Dbldown11 · 10-14-09, 02:36 PM

I have no thoughts on any aspect of this game.

I do however like S. Florida for tomorrow, and Pittsburgh for Friday

2daBank · 10-14-09, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by Dbldown11

And I'll post it here just to remind people that don't know, I told it to Dreezy earlier.....

I'm personally not on this game, and don't have any thoughts on it either. Don't know enough about either team.

HOWEVER

pags11 is on SMU this week I believe...not saying SMU is the winner, but betting opposite of Pags is a losing proposition in the long run

very tru i rarely blindly tail but i have to feel very strongly bout a play 2 go against pags he is truly da man and just reading his post every week has started to jack my win % up over da 60% mark as ive always been much better at nfl so i really appriciate all that you and him bring to the board

DREEZY · 10-14-09, 03:10 PM

Yeah, I forgot that Pags picked SMU +7, but when you look at the statistical matchup, you would have to go with Navy by more than 7 pts.

pags11 · 10-14-09, 03:19 PM

thanks guys...dreezy, be careful...stats only tell part of the story...as others mentioned this SMU team is starting to believe and is taking on the same personality as Jones' teams in Hawaii did...they will bring a maximum effort this weekend and I feel there is value with them at 7 or more...

THE_JOHN_ANTHONY · 10-14-09, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by DREEZY

Is everyone overlooking this? I think this is also a great spot to cash in!

Navy's running offense will stomp on the SMU soft defense.

took it as well.

LT Profits · 10-14-09, 04:03 PM

I like Navy by double-digits. I think the OP is right on that they will run right through the SMU defense, whose strength is against the pass, which won't help them here vs. a Navy team that never passes.

pags11 · 10-14-09, 04:25 PM

oh my gentlemen, I just became supremely more confident in my SMU wager...

LT profits (I use this second word very loosely),

have you watched SMU play this year? have you watched Navy play much this year? I have seen every single Navy game and three of SMU's game...you are completely wrong if you think SMU's secondary is their strength on defense, their secondary is actually completely suspect...it's SMU's run defense that is the strength of their defense...you also don't comment about Navy's issues in the secondary, which Jones will have a gameplan to exploit...if you are that confident that Navy covers this game with ease I propose an avatar challenge for the current line of 7.5...you take Navy, I take SMU...

you lose, you put Pags was right, again and I was wrong, again...

I lose and I'll put whatever you want in my avatar...do we have a deal?

avatar must stay up for one week by the way...

DREEZY · 10-14-09, 04:27 PM

^ that's a nice little wager

Cougar Bait · 10-14-09, 04:29 PM

I always REALLY like Navy as a dog and think the way that team is built when the matchup is right it is easy to exploit them as a favorite. I think this is one of those games. SMU +8 for me. GL everyone

pags11 · 10-14-09, 04:29 PM

yes it is DREEZY, let's see if LT is man enough to accept...

pags11 · 10-14-09, 05:31 PM

didn't think so...

RayzHELL · 10-15-09, 12:30 AM

I hesitated because of pags11......

And I'll post it here just to remind people that don't know, I told it to Dreezy earlier.....

I'm personally not on this game, and don't have any thoughts on it either. Don't know enough about either team.

HOWEVER

pags11 is on SMU this week I believe...not saying SMU is the winner, but betting opposite of Pags is a losing proposition in the long run[/quote]

Knowing pags11 was taking SMU caused me to hesitate--but I like Navy here. I put them with a couple of Dbldown11's plays!
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LT Profits · 10-15-09, 10:50 AM

Originally posted by pags11

oh my gentlemen, I just became supremely more confident in my SMU wager...

LT profits (I use this second word very loosely),

have you watched SMU play this year? have you watched Navy play much this year? I have seen every single Navy game and three of SMU's game...you are completely wrong if you think SMU's secondary is their strength on defense, their secondary is actually completely suspect...it's SMU's run defense that is the strength of their defense...you also don't comment about Navy's issues in the secondary, which Jones will have a gameplan to exploit...if you are that confident that Navy covers this game with ease I propose an avatar challenge for the current line of 7.5...you take Navy, I take SMU...

you lose, you put Pags was right, again and I was wrong, again...

I lose and I'll put whatever you want in my avatar...do we have a deal?

avatar must stay up for one week by the way...

I can't see how you came to that conclusion about the SMU defense. They are only allowing 6.3 yards per pass attempt, which is excellent, and they lead the country with 13 interceptions. Meanwhile, they are allowing an ordinary 4.2 yards per rush attempt, which is not disgusting but hardly a strength.

As for SMU exploiting the Navy past defense, two things: Navy should be able to control Time of Possession with their great running game, keeping the Mustangs' offense off the field, and even when SMU does have the ball, I am not so sure Mitchell is capable of exploiting anyone, as he has as many INTs as TD passes (10) and is only averaging 6.88 yards per attempt.

And as for your "wager", you turn down my point challenge and come back at me with some juvenile avatar offer? I have no interest in that, but my offer for a point challenge still stands. If you want to do that, we'll talk tomorrow as all of my points are currently in-play on Thursday.

StraitShooter · 10-15-09, 10:55 AM

Good Luck man

I did the buy down on Navy too...-6.5

Hope to say "shoulda bet more" after the game

spongerat · 10-15-09, 11:02 AM

all i know is that pags doesn't hit 100% but its still never a good idea to fade him, especially in this part of the season

johnnyutah20 · 10-15-09, 11:15 AM

Careful everyone...SMU on a roll and playing their asses off. I think they walk away with a W.

jimmymo · 10-15-09, 11:42 AM

Buying a 1/2 point from 5 1/2 to 5???????????

crackerjack · 10-15-09, 11:56 AM

I saw a lot of people on Rice last week and Navy put up 63 points on that team. I see Rice and SMU being a similar team as far as talent goes. This looks good, but you never know.

jellobiafra · 10-15-09, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by jimmymo

Buying a 1/2 point from 5 1/2 to 5???????????

....part of a 3 team parlay too. He's sharp.

rm18 · 10-15-09, 12:10 PM

Navy is a much better team but SMU matches up well, 7 probably about the fair line i think

Mr Handicapable · 10-15-09, 02:10 PM

I rode along w/Pags on SMU last week...actually I was impressed how hard they played against TCU even though they were outmanned! 2 big IFs for SMU though......IF they can get off the field and IF they do...will Bo Levi throw it to his or theirs? I think the line might creep up a little more towards 10 due to Navy's beatdown of Rice but SMU isn't totally rebuilding everywhere like Rice!

Willie Bee · 10-15-09, 02:45 PM

Sorry Navy backers, but I took the Midshipmen -7½ in Beat the Prick, as close to a sure-fire lock loser as you can get.

LT Profits · 10-15-09, 02:47 PM

Originally posted by Willie Bee

Sorry Navy backers, but I took the Midshipmen -7½ in Beat the Prick, as close to a sure-fire lock loser as you can get.

NOW I'm torn!

pags11 · 10-15-09, 03:33 PM

LT,

you have obviously not watched these two teams play a whole lot and are putting way too much emphasis into stats when Navy has played some very crappy teams...there is NO substitute for watching teams play, period...you haven't seen Mitchell's progress either, he has improved dramatically from last year and even since the beginning of this year...again, you are just looking at stats...you fail to mention the coaching mismatch in this game as well, or the fact that Navy had to travel to Texas then back to Maryland, perform all of their military duties this week, then head back across the country to play SMU...

avatar challenge it is and I can tell that you are scared...I would advise you to put a little more research into your games before you lay a TD plus on the road against June Jones and company...