Why is Georgia a Dog in this match-up? Something seems fishy about this (unless I missed something).............................. .........
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I guess the question I would have is, "is Mallet as good as advertised?"Comment -
Arkansas offense should be potent this yearComment -
Razorbacks always fall under the radar compared to the glamor teams in the SEC.Comment -
I would stay as far away from this game as humanly possibleComment -
Mallet is that good and Joe Cox is not...Comment -
Georgia is overrated. Take Arkansas or stay away!Comment -
I believe GA started out the favorite but it quickly changed directions. I'm not messing with this one at all except maybe the over.Comment -
Thanks for the info everyone........................Ark it is for me (probably).......................Comment -
how is georgia overrated? they're ranked #23 and fell 2 spots after beating USCe. most people on here are predicting an arkansas win. i dont think theyre overrated.Comment -
The game opened up as a pk, which is still is in many Vegas locations. Georgia has all kids of injury problems. Who knows which Georgia team even shows up? The SEC East is very down this year, with the exception of Florida. Other than Florida, I would not touch an SEC East team that is playing any of the Top 5 SEC West teams.Comment -
this game opened Arkansas +2 actually...good thoughts though bigdaddy...Comment -
stay away from UGA if you'd like to keep your money.
in fact playing agaisnt UGA for the rest of the season will probally be quite profitable.
I'd like to see UGAs ATS record over the last couple years. Be willing to bet they probally cover the spread less than 30% of the timeComment -
mmike,
always appreciate your honest insight bro...I see you workin'...Comment -
i think they were 3-8-1 ats last year...0-2 this year.Comment -
from RJ's thread at CTG:
Georgia defensive end Roderick Battle follows offensive tackle Trinton Sturdivant as the second Bulldog to go down for the season with a torn ACL.Comment -
Georgia is a hot mess... 2nd year magic for Petrino spells trouble for the dawgs.Comment -
fact of the matter is you never know what team will show up for the Dawgs.
They got tons of talent like always but cant seem to put it together like always. True Freshman Branden Smith is a stud playing both sides of the ball and is quicker than a cat. I think Hines Ward is the last Bulldog to play both side of the ball so you know the coaches think highly of him. He's still making some stupid mistakes but is fun to watch when he gets the ball.
Pags, correct Battle is gone for the season but they get Houston back this week after serving his 2 game suspension which will be a huge plus on the defensive side of the ball.
IDK much about Arksansas' QB but I've heard he doesnt have the ability to scramble. again just hearsay so IDK.
maybe the Dawgs can record their 2nd sack of the season this weekend
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Arkansas is a solid play and I think they may win by 14+Comment -
In my pre-season work, I circled this game with magic marker as a play on Arky, and things have indeed shaken out exactly as I expected they would. I don't even have time or the energy in my fingers at this late hour to explain how much I love the piglets in this one, but I will bet my non-existent reputation, (at least on THIS board), on Arkansas.
I happen to follow the SEC rather closely and have some guys down in that neck of the woods who keep me in the loop......Arkansas is about to pop bigtime this year barring injury. Their schedule is also brutal, meaning they'll most likely prove to be underrated heading into the LSU game at seasons end. You should hear these guys (who deal with NFL scouts) talk about UGA's defense......they feel UGA may have the worst defensive coaching staff in the conference, which I can't argue with. I value consensus recruiting reports and study them in the off-season, Georgia is LOADED on defense talent wise. It's an absolute joke they allow the points they do to teams like South Carolina in their own house.
Meanwhile over at Bama, Nick Saban took all of 2 seasons to turn that D into a top 5 unit nationally. If UGA ends up at 8-4 this season, Mark Richt will be under fire, fair or not, BECAUSE of what Saban has done at Bama and Meyer has done at Florida. They've set the bar ridiculously high for every other staff in the SEC, and it's why you saw so much coaching turnover last season.
And let me say this while i'm at it. I don't care what your opinion is of Lane Kiffin as a coach/person, cause I can't stand the little punk either, but they have a staff full of all world recruiters, and they will bypass UGA in the next few yrs as the #2 program in the East. How do you think that will sit with Dawg nation?
Bottom line, Petrino scores a program defining win Saturday night.....heed my advice, ride the Hogs.Comment -
Georgia has been awful. Pig Sooooooooiiiieee!Comment -
Being a long time Arkansas fan I try to not bet my team as it's hard to watch and pull for your team and your bet, especially when they disagree.
I'll give some insight:
The QB situation in Arkansas is the best in many, many years. We have 2 QBs who can throw the ball with accuracy and speed.
Mallet is the real deal, but this will only be his 2nd start of the year, as last week was a bye, but only 5th or 6th start of his career, as he had a few spots with Michigan in his Soph year. He has arguably the biggest arm in college football, and is slowly coming into his own. He will be a top 5 pick in the 2011 NFL draft unless he comes out early. He not only has great strength but he has a very nice touch of the ball.
The other QB is Tyler Wilson who played some last year but received a medical redshirt due to mono during the season. He is not the imposing 6'7" size of Mallet, but he is a good QB and split time in the season opener, in which Arkansas set a school record for passing yards reaching over 440+ yards and almost 600 yards total offense. Mallet was 17-22 for 300+ yards while Wilson wasn't as good but did throw for 2 TDs.
The Hogs have possibly the best WR core in the SEC. There are 2 guys both sophmores around 6'0 6'1 and both run give or take around 4.4s. There is another true freshman 6'1 about 210 and Sophomore TE who was the best WR on the team and best catching TE in the SEC. The RBs are stacked this year with the starter getting only 4 carries in the opener. The O-line did have trouble running the ball in the opener but I'm hoping it was because they telegraphed the run, trying to see what the O-line could do. Sigh
The defense is still a work in progress. I'd compare it to Georgia's but knowing the team I've seen improvement from last year along with weight gain in key positions. (LBs). The secondary is so so but also growing with a 230lb safety transfer with 4.45 speed.
The bottom line Arkansas should win this game and be favored -3 in my opinion even if I wasn't a Ark fan. Georgia's defense hasn't changed much since last year and seems to allow big yards and plays. This is what Arkansas did last year, when they were dead last in the SEC and by a long margin. We've improved, but how much, well that's an unknown. We have depth on both sides of the ball, and last year our defense was on the field too much, which didn't help.
I've watched both of Georgia's games this year and both teams were much better than the FBS cake Arkansas played, so you can't compare them there. Arkansas -3 due to the home field advantage. I'll probably thrown $50 on it just to make it fun.
Trying to be objective as possible. I'd learn towards the over due to both defenses still being a work in progress.Comment -
I wouldn't say he can't scramble. Both QBs can run if needed, and while no Mike Vick nor a Dan Marino, they can run if needed, but they always look down field to make a play instead of tucking and running. The Arkansas offense is all about timing and precision. You are right in a way, they don't look to run.
fact of the matter is you never know what team will show up for the Dawgs.
They got tons of talent like always but cant seem to put it together like always. True Freshman Branden Smith is a stud playing both sides of the ball and is quicker than a cat. I think Hines Ward is the last Bulldog to play both side of the ball so you know the coaches think highly of him. He's still making some stupid mistakes but is fun to watch when he gets the ball.
Pags, correct Battle is gone for the season but they get Houston back this week after serving his 2 game suspension which will be a huge plus on the defensive side of the ball.
IDK much about Arksansas' QB but I've heard he doesnt have the ability to scramble. again just hearsay so IDK.
maybe the Dawgs can record their 2nd sack of the season this weekendComment -
wacked and the system,
excellent posts...looking forward to more of your SEC stuff later this year...Comment -
georgia fan's opinion....
this is a no play. georgia could easily win this game. UGA's defense has not played bad this year, they have been put in bad positions by turnovers on offense and special teams. they held OK State's offense down, and only allowed SC to drive the field for a TD ONE time. (5 fg's, a pick six, turnovers deep in own territory)
On offense, the unit came together against South Carolina, with the offensive line dominating at times a powerful SEC defense (something arkansas doesn't have. The emergence of true freshman speedster Branden Smith, the improved confidence and settling down of a 5th year senior game manager QB (pick 6, but also 2 TD's and a 70% completion rate), and a sophomore running back ready to have a break out game has Georgia coaches feeling good about the state of their offense after the second week. not to mention UGA has the best receiver in college football AJ Green.
Coach richt stated on his call in show that Cox will complete more deep balls than Stafford this year (stafford overthrow most deep balls, cox is more accurate and if he gives aj green any kind of chance he will come down with it)
on the defensive line, UGA still has a top 5 Defensive tackle rotation nationally, and will be getting their top pass rusher back from suspension against the Razorbacks in Justin Houston, who is a physical freak and has set weight lifting records at UGA. he will be tough to block. the linebacking crew is more than solid with Rennie Curran leading the SEC in tackles. The secondary is solid with Reshad Jones being a physical presence, and cornerbacks Brandon Boykin and Prince Miller are above average cover corners.
THe only thing holding back UGA is defensive coaching and scheming. If Georgia's defense is in the right position, Arkansas will not be able to put up very many points. Arkansas will not be able to run the ball against UGA's powerful front 7, and Mallet's first SEC test will ensure that he will be hit hard on blitzes, UGA will throw a lot at him to see how he responds. I see Mallet trying to do too much and throwing 2-3 interceptions. I see Bobo handing Richard Samuel the rock and pounding it in the run game, and letting Joe Cox manage the game. AJ Green cannot be covered and will have a big game as well.
The only way arkansas wins is if UGA's offense turns the ball over several times, which i think they will have corrected vs an average Arkansas defense, mainly by keeping possession with high percentage plays in the power run game which ark average front 7 will not be able to stop, and passes to stud aj green.
Mallet will make a few mistakes and i think that is what costs Arkansas the game, and at the very least is a NO PLAY
as far as UGA injuries, Rod Battle (DE, ACL) has been average his whole career. Justin Houston is a game breaker and would have started in front of Battle anyway after serving a 2 game suspension.
while cox has not looked like a world beater, lets remember he is a 5th year senior, the team leader and is gaining confidence after notching a victory vs rival South Carolina. he doesnt turn the ball over and leads the bulldogs to a 24-20 victory in fayeteville.
hope this helps...i know it is somewhat biased, but i also included some info that may not have been mentioned yet...Comment -
I'll be happy with a good game close game and it's a toss-up as the oddsmakers have predicted. Thankss for the info Carson.Comment -
From what I have seen this Georgia team may not be as good as we all thought they were. From what I have seen Joe Cox has not impressed me one bit and the defense is still hit or miss in my opinion. Personally, I wouldn't touch this game unless your on Arkansas which my early research is leading me to beleive I will be. Real good info in this thread so far. I still haven't made up my mind but please keep the good stuff coming.Comment -
joe cox isn't an impressive QB. but i dont think anyone expects him to be. i think that he will be an effective game manager with a high completion rate ala John parker wilson at Alabama.
remember the first game he was struggling with the flu, and had to take a separate plane to oklahoma state. the second game he hit 70% of his passes including two TD's. he had a big pick six to Eric Norwood, but i believe that kind of thing will not be too common for Cox this year. the offensive line is a HUGE crutch for Joe Cox. they are a potential top 5 line nationally and i believe gelled against a tough South Carolina defense, and could be ready for outright domination vs ark. it is a matter of time before richard samuel notches his first 100 yd game, and i believe it comes against arkansas. and with Aj Green at WR, and the Offensive line giving cox all day to throw, i see cox being effective because of his accuracy, knowledge of the system and offensive line.Comment -
it all comes down to Mallet. i wouldn't put too much money on him to have a monster game or awful game. i think it will be one or the other.Comment -
There was a rumor that Cox has an injured shoulder which is not quite true and that may have been why the spread moved.Comment -
cox does have an injured shoulder. he has a degenerative ligament or something like that in his throwing shoulder. it also has something to do with the nerves i believe. the coaches rest him through the week and let him throw on thursday.
with this injury though, as long as the arm is rested, cox will be 100% on gameday, and can throw deep balls and every other throw he normally makes. it is only a problem if he throws too much, something that is impossible in a single game, but can be a factor if he threw everyday in practice. so in reality it will have no effect on him on gameday. also it helps that he has been in every qb meeting for 5 years, and knows the offense like the back of his hand, so it doesn't hurt that he misses some reps during the week.Comment -
toss up
I'm a hogs fan, but the only time i ever bet is against them. I too had this one circled before the year as a 60-70% chance that we win. National pundits across the board had this one as an sec upset game before the season ever started, just didn't expect georgia to be a shaky 1-1 coming in.
Arkansas is the real deal this year as far as talent goes, but it won't show up on the final record more than likely. 5 preseason top 15 teams, with 4 on the road. It's a brutal schedule. Defense is very much improved imo, but still young and going to need time. This will keep us from being better than an 8 win team, but we are going to absolutely light up some scoreboards. Mallett is a very very good qb. He's had a built in redshit year last year to learn petrino's offense, he has the physical tools, and because of a public intox in the spring, has been humbled and had his a$$ run off by the coaches. I saw him in person in the spring game and the opener and he has complete command of the offense. He is playing almost 25 pounds lighter than when he was in meechigan, by coaches orders. He is without a doubt the team leader, he's the first player ever here to be voted captain without ever playing a down. He will always be a pro style qb, but he can escape pressure. He isn't a jared lorenzen, he's a 6'7 kid that plays at around 240 now, not a runner, but not immobile either. receivers are young and deep, probably the best tight end in the SEC in dj williams, and now a stable of solid running backs. look out for wingo and johnson, they'll take a lot of pressure of michael smith. What killed smith last year is he is a 160 pound scatback that had to carry the ball 30 times a game. this year, they are 4 deep, especially helped by 250lb broderick green being elgible after transferring from southern cal.
They are suspect up the middle in the run game, hasn't been proven. defense is talented, but secondary and linebackers will give up yards on passes over the middle. pass rush is light years better than last year, as evidenced against lsu last year after malcolm sheppard moved to DE. The biggest problem with this team is going to be the kicking game, again. There still is no consistency on either kickoffs or field goals. It was a problem last year and it doesn't look much better so far. The return game is much better, however. John L Smith is on staff strictly to coach special teams so it really should improve. We had a kick return for a touchdown in the opener.
I wouldn't touch this game, but honestly arkansas' offense should be able to outscore georgia, and they won't need help from turnovers to do it. As a fan and outside observer, i'd say the only thing that keeps this game within 10 points is the weather, but there are a lot of uncertainties about both teams. If georgia's defense can give up almost 40 to sc, then arkansas is going to punish the scoreboard.
Only big question to me right now is the weather and what it will do. 60% of rain at gametime as of today. Luckily they just installed new turf this year so it shouldn't get too bad, but if it turns low scoring and is decided between the tackles, arkansas is in trouble.
First post, so take it easy on me,
Just my .02Comment -
leave this game aloneComment
