the shrinking MICH/USC spread....?

[nevadaside]

At this rate MICH may end up getting the points. Time seems to be your friend if you're down with MICH.

[hawk 5]

THIS IS THE FRECKING ROSE BOWL. MICHIGAN WILL SHOW UP.USC is the one that's down. I'm not a Mich fan, far from it, BUT they whip USC's ass.

[BuddyBear]

strange game b/c both teams may have very low motivation which is something of a surprise since both are in a BCS game. I would lean to the USC side personally...but I won't play this game probably.

[thezbar]

USC has to be flat after coming so close to the title game.I don't understand the line move.

[BuddyBear]

This one screams no play...

Best thing is to sit back and just root against MICH and watch Loyd Carr make a fool of himself....

[dave11486]

I agree on the no play BB. I don't think you can.

[pags11]

I lucked out with trusting Carr with my money vs. Ohio St...not going to do it again vs. Carroll...I'm on USC here...

[austintx05]

pags has this nailed.

Carroll will outcoach Carr

[nosuzieno]

pags has this nailed.

Carroll will outcoach Carr

oh, is he going to pass this year on 4th and 2.5 ?

WACO, Texas -- The American Football Coaches Association announced Tuesday (Dec. 5) that University of Michigan head coach Lloyd Carr has been named one of five 2006 Regional Coach of the Year award recipients. Carr earned the region-specific honor as the top coach in the Midwest (region 3).

Other Division I-A 2006 regional winners of the award are: Jim Grobe (Wake Forest), Houston Nutt (Arkansas), Chris Petersen (Boise State) and Bronco Mendenhall (Brigham Young).

Southern Cal loses to Org State and UCLA. Mich by three to OSU at Columbus. hmmm.
USC has 3 losses after this one. Line is a gift.

[bigboydan]

I really am not sure what to think about this game at all guys. As Hawk5 mentioned above this is the rose bowl, and it's still a very highly honored game every year no matter of the situation at hand. However, I'm just wonder how motivated USC will be for this game, after that UCLA game last weekend. I think the best thing to do here is what double B said above and just pass on this one IMO.

[ChrisV]

This is the Bummed Out Bowl. I've seen bowl games before with one majorly bummed out team but I don't think I've seen one with both teams on this scale. I guess why people may be betting USC is because people think they are getting a somewhat home field advantage playing in Cali. But Mich is by far the better team and if I had to bet it'd be on them. Just the mental state of both teams + the usual layoff factor makes it very hard to pick one with confidence. If by chance that line does keep moving down to pick'em or UM underdog then it could tempt me for a small play on Mich though.

[taurus]

The big question is , which team has the better 'right' to be down. The team that blew it in their final game or the team that thinks they deserve a second chance. ????????
I dunno.

[nosuzieno]

The big question is , which team has the better 'right' to be down. The team that blew it in their final game or the team that thinks they deserve a second chance. ????????
I dunno.

Great question. Based strictly on motivation, I think Michigan gets the lean because Rose Bowl BEFORE OSU/Fla. They definitely want to show they deserved to play for national title. USC playing for being the best 2 loss team in the country...

[taurus]

nosuzieno- I tend to agree with that assessment.

aside, : Where ( how ) did you come up with your handle?

[nosuzieno]

nosuzieno- I tend to agree with that assessment.

aside, : Where ( how ) did you come up with your handle?

Suzie is my ex wife
used to be my pat answer when she asked me if I was gambling and now
I use it as constant reminder to keep my generosity under check...

[pags11]

nosu,

I really think you'll be surprised on game day...let's see, Carroll's lost what 5 games in the past four or so years...and Carr lost 5 last year?...hmm, wonder who's done better in big games...

[nosuzieno]

As much as I respect your capping abilities, I will be surprised Pags b/c this is my favorite play of Bowl season. Difference between last year and this is who went to NFL and who stayed at Ann Arbor.

If Mich kept it to 3 at Columbus, I just gotta believe they can handle a two loss Pac 10 squad for no chalk (Pac 10 placed 2 in top 20, Big Ten has 3 in top 7)

I like Blue better at running b, qb, defense and feel they clearly have the motivational edge. But, that's why they play the game, so we shall see.

[Orion]

oh, is he going to pass this year on 4th and 2.5 ?

Yeah, with Booty on the bench and his backup punter in the shotgun.

Carroll is a great recruiter. He's not a great coach like Jim Tressel, who as much as it pains me to say it is able to put together a game plan better than just about any coach in the country regardless of who he has. Carroll, on the other hand is great at putting 5 star recruits into the starting lineup and letting them do their thing. But put him at a school like Pittsburgh and he's just another Dave Wannstedt, just another coach who couldn't hack it in the NFL. Carroll's team may win on Jan. 1st, but if they do, it'll be because the team consists of more top 100 recruits than anybody else in the nation. It sure as shit won't be because Carroll outcoached anybody.

[Razz]

Yeah, with Booty on the bench and his backup punter in the shotgun.

Carroll is a great recruiter. He's not a great coach like Jim Tressel, who as much as it pains me to say it is able to put together a game plan better than just about any coach in the country regardless of who he has. Carroll, on the other hand is great at putting 5 star recruits into the starting lineup and letting them do their thing. But put him at a school like Pittsburgh and he's just another Dave Wannstedt, just another coach who couldn't hack it in the NFL. Carroll's team may win on Jan. 1st, but if they do, it'll be because the team consists of more top 100 recruits than anybody else in the nation. It sure as shit won't be because Carroll outcoached anybody.

Well said.
352 days a year, Carroll is the best coach in the nation. The other 13 - when he has to actually make decisions on the fly - he isn't even in the top half of all coaches.

[moses millsap]

Michigan is the superior team and it almost looks too easy and I can see where some are coming with the "USC is the right side" angle/play, but I haven't been sold on the Trojans all year at all and there is no way I'm playing them in this game despite the Carr factor. Michigan's defense should be able to suffocate the USC offense and force Booty into mistakes.

[nevadaside]

MICH-1 @ Pinny.......geezze...........the USC people are plunking down. How far does this go in this direction before the patient people pounce on a great MICH line & drive that line back the other way? Being a Westcoaster, I just don't believe in the USC hype...the USC "name" that people are throwing down on instead of the "team" that they actually are "right now".

I know this is kind of stretching it but to get to my point:
USC with better/seasoned players gets beat by.......Vince Young,
USC less those highly skilled/seasoned players gets beat by.........MICH.

Also, which coach can get their players to quit comparing the Championship game to the one that they have at hand, which is being downplayed this year because of the "new" Championship game. It's still a national audience on New Years day, big $ University names & pride are at stake, neither team is going to throw this game, so who is more well equipped "all around" to come out on top, since a spread is apparently not going to be an issue for those who are patient?

[pags11]

now close to PK...

[nevadaside]

Watched ESPN/Home Depot awards last night, saw Carr stating how he had voted MICH #2 & FLORIDA #3, kind of got a feeling with him stating that like he did that MICH will be on a mission to back up there "self-rating"......just got that particular feeling from it that's all.

[pags11]

I'm thinking Carroll will want some retribution as well...

[nevadaside]

finally........MICH+1.....patience pays.....hopefully in $'s.

I know Carrol will want it for sure, USC is a very determined program.

At 1 point within PK, which team is just the stronger team & who comes out on top if both teams bring everything they have, including 100% determination?

[ChrisV]

Jeez, it is at Mich +1 and still moving juicewise on Pinny. How much farther can it go in the Mich direction? Who exactly is moving this line, is it the large amount of public money or are the 'sharps' really picking USC? Strange indeed. I am undecided when I am gonna hop on this but it may be soon here.

[hawk 5]

Go line GO.

[Aces]

At this rate MICH may end up getting the points. Time seems to be your friend if you're down with MICH.

Nice Call !!!

[primo_skillz]

gonna be on this very shortly...come on usc backers

[nevadaside]

Locked in MICH @ +1 for a few units just in case it turns.....waiting for "USC'ers" to get me more though.

This has to be the "blind" public providing this New Years gift.

[Checkerboard]

now close to PK...

pags, how do I play the dog when it's @ PK ? LOL

[LLXC]

Would love to play the ML on Mich if they became dogs.

[pags11]

it should hover right around PK until kickoff...

[ChrisV]

On Pinny ML is +103 for Mich...been that way for almost the last 48 hours.

Edit: Also +105 on Cris now.