Is Army +20.5 enough?

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  • bigboydan
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 08-10-05
    • 55420

    #1
    Is Army +20.5 enough?
    I know this is a huge rivalry game, but Army just flat out sucks this year. Bobby Ross just doesn't have the talent level to compete with this Navy team IMO.

    Whats everyone elses take on this game?
  • pags11
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 08-18-05
    • 12264

    #2
    not sure 20.5 is enough, but won't lay that number with any team this week...
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    • hawk 5
      SBR MVP
      • 09-12-06
      • 3982

      #3
      If I bet it I'll take Navy.
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      • bigboydan
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 08-10-05
        • 55420

        #4
        I really considered laying it believe it or not guys. I just couldn't pull the trigger though.

        Army is just that damn bad this year, and the more I look at this game the more I can see a woodshed type job.
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        • Peyton2MarvinN06
          SBR MVP
          • 09-25-06
          • 1352

          #5
          I really don't think Army has anything that will enable them to keep up with Navy in this one... 20.5 is a lot to lay, but Navy has shown that they can blow opponents out that are not up to their caliber... Who knows though with the rivalry in this one...
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          • kdmfox
            SBR MVP
            • 08-11-05
            • 1743

            #6
            Navy has won the last 4 years and this year the gap in talent seems a bit wider.

            02 ... 58-12
            03 ... 34-6
            04 ... 42-13
            05 ... 42-23
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            • bigboydan
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-10-05
              • 55420

              #7
              Exactly my point KDM. Even in a big time rivalry game like this I don't feel it will be that close.

              This game actually ment something in the 90's. Those games every year were barn burners it seemed like, but now there all one sided blow out type games and it's sad really
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              • pags11
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 08-18-05
                • 12264

                #8
                Navy should kill them, but just can't lay that many points in this one...
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                • BuddyBear
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 08-10-05
                  • 7233

                  #9
                  Same thing as Pags...can't back Army but I am not in the habit of laying 20.5 pts either.
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                  • taurus
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 08-11-05
                    • 206

                    #10
                    I seldom lay any number this high, but this would be a likely spot. I agree with how sad it is about what has happened to this 'rivalry'.
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                    • sweetpete57@
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-09-06
                      • 1116

                      #11
                      Army is pitiful, and will only score probably 14 points or less, which leads to the deciding question, will Navy score less than 35? Probably not. Navy -20'
                      "You Can't Outfox a Fox" -Dapper Capper
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                      • freeneasy
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 09-08-06
                        • 172

                        #12
                        in their most recent preformances i used/capped the air force, notre dame game for army and i used/capped the duke, temple game for navy.
                        navy would get a score of 36.33 to 8.75 over army making navy -27.60 however in overall preformances i used 6 games to handicap army and 8 games to handicap navy and came up with the score navy 38.09 to 18.71 for army. navy -19.40
                        it looks like the choice would be in the most recent preformance's for eace team. navy beat up on temple and duke while army got wipped in the same fashion by air force and norte dame. still, in balancing out the strength of the 2teams that army and navy each played the nod can and does go to navy.
                        the combined average strength rating for af and nd is 78 and navy is rated at 78 strengthwise
                        overall the spread is right there at dead even or pretty much close to it but navy then extends to take over the spread on the recency issue. tough call for me but if i had to bet it i'd like navy
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                        • pags11
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 08-18-05
                          • 12264

                          #13
                          this is a pretty cool game to watch though...
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                          • freeneasy
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 09-08-06
                            • 172

                            #14
                            made a mistake in my numbers

                            going back over my numbers i saw that i had made a mistake in my calculations and this is the way my corrected numbers read
                            in using 6 games to handicap army's overall preformace and using 8 games to handicap navy's overall preformace i get navy 38.09 and army 14.62. navy -23.50
                            in using 2 games each to handicap army and navy's most recent preformance i get navy 36.33 and army 9.87. navy -26.50
                            averaging out to navy 37.69 and army 13.56. navy -24.10
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                            • Seattle Slew
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 01-02-06
                              • 7373

                              #15
                              I remember years ago this and just a couple other games were played this weekend, so you almost were obligated to make a play. But with the title games in a couple conferences, plus a few other nice games, it's easy to pass on this game.
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