2016-17 plays from BlacK_HazE's bowl system from 2012

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  • JTrain
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 09-29-13
    • 551

    #1
    2016-17 plays from BlacK_HazE's bowl system from 2012
    These are plays from some systems described in Black Haze's 2012 bowl thread. I believe he went 19-9 that year. The stats have not been updated.

    System #1 - Play on Dogs of 4-11 pts from 12/25 to 12/31. 53-29 ATS

    Vandy +4
    North Texas +10
    Minnesota +9.5
    Baylor +7.5
    Northwestern +5.5
    Indiana +7.5
    South Carolina +10.5
    Arkansas +7


    System #2 - Play Against FAVS that are 3-0 su,ats L3 gms, covered by 3 or more pts last gm, vs opp off Loss that allows 27 or less pts/gm. 17-1 ATS

    Wake Forest +12.5
    Florida St. +6.5
    Iowa +2.5
    Auburn +3 - Oklahoma allows 29.7 ppg but it wasn't clear if BlackHaze was referring to the team or the opponent.


    System #3 - Play Against Pre-New Years Day FAVS who won 8 or less gms, avg 121.5 131.5< rush/gm, vs opp who rushes for 140>ypg. 19-4 ATS

    Minnesota +9.5
    Iowa +2.5

    I raised the rushing limit 10 yards so we can actually get a couple plays


    System #4 - Play UNDER, 2 teams in Non-BCS conf. 22-46 UNDER

    UTSA-NM under
    Houston-SDSU under
    Ark St-UCF under
    AppSt-Toledo under
    SM-ULL under
    CMU-Tulsa under
    Mem-WKU under
    BYU-Wyo under
    CSU-Idaho under
    EMU-OldDom under
    LaTech-Navy under
    Ohio-Troy under
    MTSU-Hawaii under
    Army-NT under
    South Alabama-AF under


    System #5 - Play on FAVS of 4 or less pts w/less than 39 days rest off SU win scoring 46+pts. 17-0 SU, 16-1 ATS

    LSU -3.5


    System #6- Play Favs on Moneyline if they have worse SU record. 33-9 SU

    UCF ML
    CSU ML
    LaTech ML
    Miss St ML
    Miami ML
    Tenn ML
    LSU ML
    Wisconsin ML
    USC ML



    = more than one play
  • scratbandit
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 09-07-09
    • 548

    #2
    Thanks for your effort in your post.
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    • gojetsgomoxies
      SBR MVP
      • 09-04-12
      • 4222

      #3
      JTrain,

      i saw this in on another website - consistent with stuff i'd said earlier..... 3 different implementations of similar ideas.

      1) BET better rush offense ..................

      2) BET better rush offense and better rush defense........ i'm guessing this will cut down the # of bets alot.

      3) BET teams that average more than 200 yards rushing per game. i assume if there are 2 teams that qualify, then NO PLAY

      my note: one thing about averaging 200 yards rushing per game is that the list of teams will be combo/hybrid of 1) very high rushing totals; 2) very good teams.

      basically i figure the idea is that the teams aren't very sharp (motivated??) for bowl games so the teams go back to basics i.e. run the ball. and running doesn't require too much timing/precision.
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      • JTrain
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 09-29-13
        • 551

        #4
        System #1 - Play on Dogs of 4-11 pts from 12/25 to 12/31. 53-29 ATS

        Vandy +4
        North Texas +10
        Minnesota +9.5
        Baylor +7.5
        Northwestern +5.5
        Indiana +7.5
        South Carolina +10.5
        Arkansas +7


        System #2 - Play Against FAVS that are 3-0 su,ats L3 gms, covered by 3 or more pts last gm, vs opp off Loss that allows 27 or less pts/gm. 17-1 ATS

        Wake Forest +12.5
        Florida St. +6.5
        Iowa +2.5
        Auburn +3 - Oklahoma allows 29.7 ppg but it wasn't clear if BlackHaze was referring to the team or the opponent.


        System #3 - Play Against Pre-New Years Day FAVS who won 8 or less gms, avg 121.5 131.5< rush/gm, vs opp who rushes for 140>ypg. 19-4 ATS

        Minnesota +9.5
        Iowa +2.5

        I raised the rushing limit 10 yards so we can actually get a couple plays


        System #4 - Play UNDER, 2 teams in Non-BCS conf. 22-46 UNDER

        UTSA-NM under
        Houston-SDSU under
        Ark St-UCF under
        AppSt-Toledo under
        SM-ULL under

        CMU-Tulsa under
        Mem-WKU under
        BYU-Wyo under
        CSU-Idaho under
        EMU-OldDom under
        LaTech-Navy under
        Ohio-Troy under
        MTSU-Hawaii under
        Army-NT under
        South Alabama-AF under


        System #5 - Play on FAVS of 4 or less pts w/less than 39 days rest off SU win scoring 46+pts. 17-0 SU, 16-1 ATS

        LSU -3.5


        System #6- Play Favs on Moneyline if they have worse SU record. 33-9 SU

        UCF ML
        CSU ML
        LaTech ML
        Miss St ML
        Miami ML
        Tenn ML
        LSU ML
        Wisconsin ML
        USC ML
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        • JTrain
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 09-29-13
          • 551

          #5
          Originally posted by gojetsgomoxies
          JTrain,

          i saw this in on another website - consistent with stuff i'd said earlier..... 3 different implementations of similar ideas.

          1) BET better rush offense ..................

          2) BET better rush offense and better rush defense........ i'm guessing this will cut down the # of bets alot.

          3) BET teams that average more than 200 yards rushing per game. i assume if there are 2 teams that qualify, then NO PLAY

          my note: one thing about averaging 200 yards rushing per game is that the list of teams will be combo/hybrid of 1) very high rushing totals; 2) very good teams.

          basically i figure the idea is that the teams aren't very sharp (motivated??) for bowl games so the teams go back to basics i.e. run the ball. and running doesn't require too much timing/precision.
          Would like to see what the plays would be for #2.
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          • JTrain
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 09-29-13
            • 551

            #6
            6/6 for unders so far
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            • gojetsgomoxies
              SBR MVP
              • 09-04-12
              • 4222

              #7
              JTrain, thx. wasn't aware of the minor conference UNDERS........ i backtested something related to it - at least one team minor conference - and it's amazing.

              same problem as every system..... you find a 65% moderate-long term winner that makes tons of sense and then you see a recent season where it went 1 for 6 or something similar......... something i have to get my head around.
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              • gojetsgomoxies
                SBR MVP
                • 09-04-12
                • 4222

                #8
                so the memphis went OVER ... just barely. i was surprised the total was so high.

                but BYU-Wyoming is very low scoring so far. so that one is looking good.
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                • gojetsgomoxies
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-04-12
                  • 4222

                  #9
                  i have non-big 5 UNDERs at 7-1.... CSU-Idaho first quarter so far = UNDERish play...
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                  • gojetsgomoxies
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-04-12
                    • 4222

                    #10
                    wow............ CSU-Idaho scored 111 points. ZERO in the 1st quarter.
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                    • JTrain
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 09-29-13
                      • 551

                      #11
                      System #1 - Play on Dogs of 4-11 pts from 12/25 to 12/31. 53-29 ATS

                      Vandy +4
                      North Texas +10
                      Minnesota +9.5
                      Baylor +7.5

                      Northwestern +5.5
                      Indiana +7.5
                      South Carolina +10.5
                      Arkansas +7


                      System #2 - Play Against FAVS that are 3-0 su,ats L3 gms, covered by 3 or more pts last gm, vs opp off Loss that allows 27 or less pts/gm. 17-1 ATS

                      Wake Forest +12.5
                      Florida St. +6.5
                      Iowa +2.5
                      Auburn +3 - Oklahoma allows 29.7 ppg but it wasn't clear if BlackHaze was referring to the team or the opponent.


                      System #3 - Play Against Pre-New Years Day FAVS who won 8 or less gms, avg 121.5 131.5< rush/gm, vs opp who rushes for 140>ypg. 19-4 ATS

                      Minnesota +9.5
                      Iowa +2.5

                      I raised the rushing limit 10 yards so we can actually get a couple plays


                      System #4 - Play UNDER, 2 teams in Non-BCS conf. 22-46 UNDER

                      UTSA-NM under
                      Houston-SDSU under
                      Ark St-UCF under
                      AppSt-Toledo under
                      SM-ULL under

                      CMU-Tulsa under
                      Mem-WKU under
                      BYU-Wyo under
                      CSU-Idaho under
                      EMU-OldDom under
                      LaTech-Navy under
                      Ohio-Troy under
                      MTSU-Hawaii under
                      Army-NT under
                      South Alabama-AF under


                      System #5 - Play on FAVS of 4 or less pts w/less than 39 days rest off SU win scoring 46+pts. 17-0 SU, 16-1 ATS

                      LSU -3.5


                      System #6- Play Favs on Moneyline if they have worse SU record. 33-9 SU

                      UCF ML
                      CSU ML

                      LaTech ML
                      Miss St ML
                      Miami ML
                      Tenn ML
                      LSU ML
                      Wisconsin ML
                      USC ML
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                      • thekoreanmang
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-17-14
                        • 1422

                        #12
                        Damn. These system picks seem spot on. Crazy how these situational plays almost seem impervious to any given year's randomness. Case in point: Minnesota's set scandal/player boycott drama.
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                        • JTrain
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 09-29-13
                          • 551

                          #13
                          System one shooting for 8-0 with Arkansas +7
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                          • thekoreanmang
                            SBR MVP
                            • 03-17-14
                            • 1422

                            #14
                            Originally posted by JTrain
                            System one shooting for 8-0 with Arkansas +7
                            Seriously. Thanks for posting this. Do you know how far back the records are for?

                            It's crazy how situational stats like these apply well year after year. It seems like the situational trends that apply in a more general fashion to multiple teams across years work better than trends that only apply to a single team.
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                            • JTrain
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 09-29-13
                              • 551

                              #15
                              Sorry I didn't catch Vandy was a loss.
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                              • JTrain
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 09-29-13
                                • 551

                                #16
                                System #1 - Play on Dogs of 4-11 pts from 12/25 to 12/31. 53-29 ATS

                                Vandy +4
                                North Texas +10
                                Minnesota +9.5
                                Baylor +7.5

                                Northwestern +5.5
                                Indiana +7.5
                                South Carolina +10.5
                                Arkansas +7

                                FINISHED 6-2



                                System #2 - Play Against FAVS that are 3-0 su,ats L3 gms, covered by 3 or more pts last gm, vs opp off Loss that allows 27 or less pts/gm. 17-1 ATS

                                Wake Forest +12.5
                                Florida St. +6.5
                                Iowa +2.5
                                Auburn +3 - Oklahoma allows 29.7 ppg but it wasn't clear if BlackHaze was referring to the team or the opponent.


                                System #3 - Play Against Pre-New Years Day FAVS who won 8 or less gms, avg 121.5 131.5< rush/gm, vs opp who rushes for 140>ypg. 19-4 ATS

                                Minnesota +9.5
                                Iowa +2.5

                                I raised the rushing limit 10 yards so we can actually get a couple plays


                                System #4 - Play UNDER, 2 teams in Non-BCS conf. 22-46 UNDER

                                UTSA-NM under
                                Houston-SDSU under
                                Ark St-UCF under
                                AppSt-Toledo under
                                SM-ULL under

                                CMU-Tulsa under
                                Mem-WKU under
                                BYU-Wyo under
                                CSU-Idaho under
                                EMU-OldDom under
                                LaTech-Navy under
                                Ohio-Troy under
                                MTSU-Hawaii under
                                Army-NT under
                                South Alabama-AF under


                                System #5 - Play on FAVS of 4 or less pts w/less than 39 days rest off SU win scoring 46+pts. 17-0 SU, 16-1 ATS

                                LSU -3.5


                                System #6- Play Favs on Moneyline if they have worse SU record. 33-9 SU

                                UCF ML
                                CSU ML

                                LaTech ML
                                Miss St ML
                                Miami ML
                                Tenn ML
                                LSU ML
                                Wisconsin ML
                                USC ML
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                                • thekoreanmang
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 03-17-14
                                  • 1422

                                  #17
                                  Hate to break it to you but Arkansas lost also.
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                                  • JTrain
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 09-29-13
                                    • 551

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by thekoreanmang
                                    Hate to break it to you but Arkansas lost also.

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                                    • thekoreanmang
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 03-17-14
                                      • 1422

                                      #19
                                      Haha. Nice one. I bet the rest of the board except for the lone remaining under. Seems like it could be high scoring. Was thinking about betting on South Alabama +14 on that one. Not sure. In any event, thanks for posting these. Never seen them before but so glad you posted this year. Hopefully you're having a good bowling season.
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                                      • JTrain
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 09-29-13
                                        • 551

                                        #20
                                        System #1 - Play on Dogs of 4-11 pts from 12/25 to 12/31. 53-29 ATS

                                        Vandy +4
                                        North Texas +10
                                        Minnesota +9.5
                                        Baylor +7.5

                                        Northwestern +5.5
                                        Indiana +7.5
                                        South Carolina +10.5
                                        Arkansas +7

                                        FINISHED 6-2

                                        Bielema is fat


                                        System #2 - Play Against FAVS that are 3-0 su,ats L3 gms, covered by 3 or more pts last gm, vs opp off Loss that allows 27 or less pts/gm. 17-1 ATS

                                        Wake Forest +12.5
                                        Florida St. +6.5
                                        Iowa +2.5
                                        Auburn +3 - Oklahoma allows 29.7 ppg but it wasn't clear if BlackHaze was referring to the team or the opponent.


                                        System #3 - Play Against Pre-New Years Day FAVS who won 8 or less gms, avg 121.5 131.5< rush/gm, vs opp who rushes for 140>ypg. 19-4 ATS

                                        Minnesota +9.5
                                        Iowa +2.5

                                        I raised the rushing limit 10 yards so we can actually get a couple plays


                                        System #4 - Play UNDER, 2 teams in Non-BCS conf. 22-46 UNDER

                                        UTSA-NM under
                                        Houston-SDSU under
                                        Ark St-UCF under
                                        AppSt-Toledo under
                                        SM-ULL under

                                        CMU-Tulsa under
                                        Mem-WKU under
                                        BYU-Wyo under
                                        CSU-Idaho under
                                        EMU-OldDom under
                                        LaTech-Navy under
                                        Ohio-Troy under
                                        MTSU-Hawaii under
                                        Army-NT under
                                        South Alabama-AF under

                                        FINISHED 8-7


                                        System #5 - Play on FAVS of 4 or less pts w/less than 39 days rest off SU win scoring 46+pts. 17-0 SU, 16-1 ATS

                                        LSU -3.5

                                        FINISHED 1-0

                                        System #6- Play Favs on Moneyline if they have worse SU record. 33-9 SU

                                        UCF ML
                                        CSU ML

                                        LaTech ML
                                        Miss St ML
                                        Miami ML
                                        Tenn ML
                                        LSU ML
                                        Wisconsin ML
                                        USC ML[/QUOTE]
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