9/2 pitts

[Aye J Mac]

Pittsburgh +10.5

[Aye J Mac]

bought points, was at +10

[playmaker79]

I'm on FSU because FSU upgraded their qb position. It's not often a team loses a 'first round qb'(hahaha) in place of a true freshman and gets better, but that's what I think fsu did. Ej manuel, for whatever reason, was not a good college qb

[WinTheDay24]

I'm on FSU because FSU upgraded their qb position. It's not often a team loses a 'first round qb'(hahaha) in place of a true freshman and gets better, but that's what I think fsu did. Ej manuel, for whatever reason, was not a good college qb

Upgraded? Winston is a freshman starting his first gm on the road in a hostile environment. If thats your main reasoning for taking FSU, tread lightly my friend

[playmaker79]

yes, and I don't expect Winston to play all that great. I guess what that does tell you is how little I thought of ej manuel.

[WinTheDay24]

yes, and I don't expect Winston to play all that great. I guess what that does tell you is how little I thought of ej manuel.

Manuel was 25-6 as a starter, 4-0 in bowl games, won 5 outta 6 vs intrastate rivals (miami & Florida), and also helped lead them last yr to their most prolific offensive season in school history. In addition he goes down as the most accurate QB of all time at FsU.. highly doubt a freshman outperforms him.

[Mac4Lyfe]

^^ I liked EJ Manuel. As a Gator fan, I never understood why many FSU fans didn't like him???

We shall soon see that he's a much better QB than Ponder.

[playmaker79]

25-6 with a loaded defense in the acc....look back to the florida game last year for why fsu fans were so glad to see him gone. The 4-0 bowl record is more depressing for *what* bowls and opponents those games were considering their schedule and talent on both sides of the ball. They were top 5 preseason with manuel each of manuel's last two years and underachieved both times.

[WinTheDay24]

25-6 with a loaded defense in the acc....look back to the florida game last year for why fsu fans were so glad to see him gone. The 4-0 bowl record is more depressing for *what* bowls and opponents those games were considering their schedule and talent on both sides of the ball. They were top 5 preseason with manuel each of manuel's last two years and underachieved both times.

More blame should be placed on jimbo fisher imo. Good coach, bad OC. Also if your looking at the teams Manuel played with, every year except last he played with a HORRIBLE o-line. In his jr yr at one point they had 5 fresh starting on the line. Look at Champs sports bowl in 2011 vs Notre Dame. Dude had to run for his life literally every down. Manuel is a good QB. Not saying that Winston won't surpass him but too many people hyping this kid up to be the next johnny football w/o ever seeing him throw a pass..

[RavensFan2k3]

Yall think Pitt can win straight up?

[Aye J Mac]

Yall think Pitt can win straight up?

just sprinkle a little on ML and pound the spread BIG

[Eddy Munny]

The problem with Pitt is that their offense is painfully inept at times. They always seem to have at least one gamebreaker at the skill spot (Devin Street this year), but the O-line/quarterback/playcalling or whatever it is, seems to nullify his presence in big games. I trust the Pitt defense will be dialed in, especially with a home crowd behind them, but the offense is too suspect. Tom Savage may actually be an upgrade at quarterback this year, but Rushel Shell transferred in the offseason, leaving a big hole at running back. Florida State's defense is too athletic and Pitt's offense too bland to really back the Panthers here. I do however like the Under 49 for many of the same aforementioned reasons. Let's face it, if Pitt covers the spread, it most likely goes under. But if they don't, it could very well still go under. Hence, gimme the under so I don't have to root for Pitt's anemic offense to advance the pigskin.

[khaden]

I dont think Pitt can hang - FSU is too athletic and faster -

[kobstopa]

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[WVUsuperfan]

Upgraded? Winston is a freshman starting his first gm on the road in a hostile environment. If thats your main reasoning for taking FSU, tread lightly my friend

I think it's funny you believe Heinz field could ever be a hostile environment .. Maybe for the steelers but Pitt fans are quite pathetic .. It will be anything but hostile

[Oteder]

Kobstopa nicely put my friend randomac get the fukkk on sucker! By the way you might work for the bookie who knows because our goal and motto here is to bang the book!

[Gameday]

FSU's new Quarterback looks like he's one of those athletes that only comes around once in awhile. Kid is a stud who loves the spotlight, sources say that he "can't wait to get on the field and show everyone how good he is". He's a starting pitcher/outfielder on the baseball team and he was also drafted in the 15th round to play in the MLB which he declined because he wanted to play football. He was lucky enough to come in and red shirt a year, so he's not a true freshmen who isn't familiar with the system. I'm expecting him to put on a show. If he does however fall short of this hes got 4 of 6 starting wideouts and 2 returning stud rbs will have plenty of fire-power to stomp Pitt out. Oh yeah, he also has a Offense line of returning starters too.

FSU rolls Pitt

[Itsamazing777]

He hasn't played a game.

[Gameday]

Pitts quarterback hasnt started a game in three years.

[Pin Fish]

uhhh........... anyone remember the SMU game .....better coaching better talent.............result today will be the same.........oh I almost forgot Freshman QB.................

[RavensFan2k3]

uhhh........... anyone remember the SMU game .....better coaching better talent.............result today will be the same.........oh I almost forgot Freshman QB.................

I dont understand

[Pin Fish]

I dont understand

Majority of post on SMU CITING SAME REASONS AS WHY THEY LIKE PITT...

[Itsamazing777]

I dont understand

Pitt has a defense. Smu doesn't

[RavensFan2k3]

Majority of post on SMU CITING SAME REASONS AS WHY THEY LIKE PITT...

Thats what I thought lol, just making sure haha

[Pin Fish]

Thats what I thought lol, just making sure haha

[Gameday]

So are you taking Pitt or FSU

[WinTheDay24]

The problem with Pitt is that their offense is painfully inept at times. They always seem to have at least one gamebreaker at the skill spot (Devin Street this year), but the O-line/quarterback/playcalling or whatever it is, seems to nullify his presence in big games. I trust the Pitt odefense will be dialed in, especially with a home crowd behind them, but the offense is too suspect. Tom Savage may actually be an upgrade at quarterback this year, but Rushel Shell transferred in the offseason, leaving a big hole at running back. Florida State's defense is too athletic and Pitt's offense too bland to really back the Panthers here. I do however like the Under 49 for many of the same aforementioned reasons. Let's face it, if Pitt covers the spread, it most likely goes under. But if they don't, it could very well still go under. Hence, gimme the under so I don't have to root for Pitt's anemic offense to advance the pigskin.

Most intelligent response in this thread. On the under myself, should be $

[badbyzdmx]

i like the under myself.... over 80% on FSU that scares me a bit since this week the public kinda cleaned out

[Aye J Mac]

Wow, alot of under backer's!! public bets all over fsu and under.. but goodluck to all

[Eddy Munny]

Well the Under is a Potatohead play so yea........

[sportfan]

its me or the under an eazy play?

[sportfan]

Pitt +11.5 @ bovada if u like them

[Aye J Mac]

Well the Under is a Potatohead play so yea........

gl luck potatohead lock

[Aye J Mac]

Pitt +11.5 @ bovada if u like them

10.5 , 11.5 same same, wont matter!!

[AdamL2424]

Im on Pitt +12.5 and U49... BOL