1. 02-13-19 03:02 PM #1
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    UFC 235: Jones vs. Smith (March 02, 2019)



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    Jon Jones vs Anthony Smith (for light heavyweight title)
    Tyron Woodley vs Kamaru Usman (for welterweight title)
    Ben Askren vs Robbie Lawler
    Tecia Torres vs Weili Zhang
    Cody Garbrandt vs Pedro Munhoz

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    Misha Cirkunov vs Johnny Walker
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  2. 02-13-19 05:20 PM #2
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    Thx Lock.

    Card is stacked. The fight gods already took Whittaker, hope this one stays in tact and JJ doesn't pop.
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    Amazing Card , Agree....Walker stepping up on short notice.....LEGGO
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    Thx Lock.

    Card is stacked. The fight gods already took Whittaker, hope this one stays in tact and JJ doesn't pop.
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  4. 02-14-19 05:39 PM #4
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    Zhang by decision. Walker R1 KO/TKO. Woodley/Askren parlay. Garbrandt.
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  5. 02-21-19 10:58 AM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by JC2008 View Post
    Zhang by decision. Walker R1 KO/TKO. Woodley/Askren parlay. Garbrandt.

    I think i like walker bet, Askren seems like a little expensive, Zhang fight i do think is quite close, a little bit based on how Zhang handled Danielle Taylor, if Torres is almost as quick and just a little bit better everywhere the fight may end up a bit too close for my taste.

    Magomedsharipov any thoughts about that scrap?
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  6. 02-21-19 01:05 PM #6
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    Anyone want to loan me $20K to put on Jones?


    Also, DraftKings currently has Jones at a ridiculous -1250 (only ML posted so far) and Points Bet has him at -1112.
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  7. 02-24-19 10:45 AM #7
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    Early thoughts tell me Walker, Woodley, Garbrandt, and I’m calling odds on Smith no matter what.
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  8. 02-24-19 11:33 AM #8
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    Jones odds are absurd!!!

    We all obviously all think JJ will win but come on man!! It's still fighting and anything can happen at this level. I'll be trying Smith ITD for small myself for even better odds. https://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Anthony-Smith-29470

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  9. 02-24-19 11:43 AM #9
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    The man can be KO’d and Smith is a man that can make that happen. He may not but it’s worth a shot to me. He will likely have 2-3 rounds to do it then it’s all Jones I’d fight is still going.
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    This card is going to be excellent!
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  11. 02-24-19 12:39 PM #11
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    compensation for cancelled kelvin gastelum vs robert whittaker fight from betting gods
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  12. 02-24-19 01:02 PM #12
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    I'm giving glass jaw Diego a chance against Mickey Gall.. Gall is a submission guy and Diego is still a Brazilian Black Belt on the ground with decent wrestling chops.. Stand up is probably both equally poor and bad. https://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Mickey-Gall-160145

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    Also a very tough first UFC fight for Ben Askren facing Ruthless Robbie.. One thing Robbie Lawler has is KO power in his striking and very good defensive wrestling defense.

    If this fight stays standing Robbie Lawler could very well get the KO.. Just saying and liking the dog at these odds in this one too!!.https://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Ben-Askren-42390

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  14. 02-24-19 10:20 PM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs View Post
    Early thoughts tell me Walker, Woodley, Garbrandt, and I’m calling odds on Smith no matter what.
    Why do you like Walker?
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  15. 02-24-19 10:41 PM #15
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    Askren has literally never fought anybody even UFC caliber let alone someone with Lawler's credentials. Robbie all day
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    Quote Originally Posted by unlearn View Post
    Askren has literally never fought anybody even UFC caliber let alone someone with Lawler's credentials. Robbie all day
    lol
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    Yeah Askren is going to put on a wrestling clinic here
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  18. 02-24-19 11:01 PM #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by unlearn View Post
    Askren has literally never fought anybody even UFC caliber let alone someone with Lawler's credentials. Robbie all day
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  19. 02-24-19 11:12 PM #19
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    Sorry I forgot how great Dan Hornbuckle and Lyman Good are
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  20. 02-24-19 11:17 PM #20
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    Lawler could be washed and get wet blanketed for 15 minutes but at those odds against a guy who has fought mainly cans for 8 years, I'll take a shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unlearn View Post
    Sorry I forgot how great Dan Hornbuckle and Lyman Good are
    Koreshkov and Lima are two of the best fighters in Bellator and Askren Schooled Them. Do you even watch tape or do you just make bold claims with no thought behind them?

    Lawler's biggest weakness is grappling. He's been outgrappled by all the elite grapplers he's faced (Hendricks, Kennedy, Jacare, Shields etc.). Even non-grapplers like Cerrone, Brown, MacDonald, and Ellenberger have had success hitting takedowns and keeping top position. I think is screwed if he doesn't get the KO.

    Let's get some BetPoints cooking on this. I'll pay you out if Lawler gets a finish or wins a round on ANY judges scorecard.
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  22. 02-25-19 01:39 PM #22
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    will be tossing lawler all over the place lol...
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    Yeah Askren is going to put on a wrestling clinic here
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  23. 02-25-19 01:40 PM #23
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    He honestly made Koreskov look like a 1st time wrestler and mma fighter....it was almost embarrassing he was their "champion" after that LOL......
    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Koreshkov and Lima are two of the best fighters in Bellator and Askren Schooled Them. Do you even watch tape or do you just make bold claims with no thought behind them?

    Lawler's biggest weakness is grappling. He's been outgrappled by all the elite grapplers he's faced (Hendricks, Kennedy, Jacare, Shields etc.). Even non-grapplers like Cerrone, Brown, MacDonald, and Ellenberger have had success hitting takedowns and keeping top position. I think is screwed if he doesn't get the KO.

    Let's get some BetPoints cooking on this. I'll pay you out if Lawler gets a finish or wins a round on ANY judges scorecard.
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  24. 02-25-19 01:52 PM #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcchiefs View Post
    The man can be KO’d and (blank) is a man that can make that happen.
    Since I haven't followed UFC and/or Jones from the beginnings, roughly how many times has a quote like this been said before a Jones fight? I definitely heard it before the last one.
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    Right.....Vegas LOVES these type of fights.....nobody bets the fav and the dog gets ALL the action....people then think there is a chance bc in comes the $$...price goes down....then the fav just comes out and works him LOL...
    Quote Originally Posted by magpie878 View Post
    Since I haven't followed UFC and/or Jones from the beginnings, roughly how many times has a quote like this been said before a Jones fight? I definitely heard it before the last one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaperTrail07 View Post
    will be tossing lawler all over the place lol...
    Papes is a smart man. He watches tape before he pops off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaperTrail07 View Post
    Right.....Vegas LOVES these type of fights.....nobody bets the fav and the dog gets ALL the action....people then think there is a chance bc in comes the $$...price goes down....then the fav just comes out and works him LOL...
    DraftKings offered boosted odds on Jones winning by KO/TKO/DQ last fight against Gustafsson and though they only allow limited bets, I was able to get a couple $25 bets at +300 there, plus one or two others, I forget now. Worked out well!
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  28. 02-25-19 05:55 PM #28
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    Are you mainly betting the points for Askren Hugo? What do you imagine the odds will be on it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugo de Naranja View Post
    Yeah Askren is going to put on a wrestling clinic here
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    Marty from Nebraska can get it next.
    Should I bump my Woodley thread yet?
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  30. 02-25-19 06:22 PM #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by praisebuddha View Post
    Are you mainly betting the points for Askren Hugo? What do you imagine the odds will be on it?
    Still have to think about it. Just ML for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaperTrail07 View Post
    will be tossing lawler all over the place lol...
    Not early on.. Ben has the worst stand up I've ever seen.. Can't even throw a straight punch..

    If Robbie can tap into his wrestling defense and keep it standing with distance he does have pop and could land something.. Robbie has fought the best in the bidnesssss.. Can't write him off as being grapple focked all fight IMO.. When Robbie gasses though he will be on his back for sure though..

    He was training for Woodley and his wrestling and got cracked.. Don't see that same thing happening in this fight with Ben..
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    Usman vs Woodley is an interesting fight to cap? Damian Maia closed the distance on Woodley. Usman's key to victory maybe?.. Keep it close and a grind..

    Although Usman has learned how to throw hard and strike also.. This will not be an easy fight for Woodley regardless..

    We'll see? Maybe leaning Usman in this one.. Haven't decided yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WolfTicketDealer View Post
    Why do you like Walker?
    He is the UFC’s new hot prospect. He has impressed me so far. Don’t think they are giving him anyone he can’t handle. This will be a good test but I thinks it’s a quick KO win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magpie878 View Post
    Since I haven't followed UFC and/or Jones from the beginnings, roughly how many times has a quote like this been said before a Jones fight? I definitely heard it before the last one.
    Jones is best there is no doubt but I like the way Smith fights. Jones is favored for good reason. I don’t see anyone laying those odds. Nevertheless, I actually like Smith’s chances compared to others who have fought Jones. Smith will hopefully push forward and TRY to close space. He will have to take some shots in process but can finish anyone when he is in range. Not saying I think Smith is the better fighter but he may have his day come March 2nd. He may get beat up and wrestled for 5 rounds as well lol. I think Jones has a MAJOR advantage on ground and skills to get it there easily in this fight. So I may be throwing money away but it’s aight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Not early on.. Ben has the worst stand up I've ever seen.. Can't even throw a straight punch..

    If Robbie can tap into his wrestling defense and keep it standing with distance he does have pop and could land something.. Robbie has fought the best in the bidnesssss.. Can't write him off as being grapple focked all fight IMO.. When Robbie gasses though he will be on his back for sure though..

    He was training for Woodley and his wrestling and got cracked.. Don't see that same thing happening in this fight with Ben..
    What odds can I get on Askren to hit a takedown in the first round? What about the first minute?
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