The Return of Cy-K Matsuzaka tomorrow.

Gamble32jn · 06-09-12, 12:15 AM

Over looks like a play maybe.

taxe91 · 06-09-12, 12:17 AM

yep would consider the over if it moves to 8. dont know what to expect from dice-k.

ShivaBowl · 06-09-12, 06:29 AM

I personally witnessed his last two starts in Pawtucket and he was god-awful.
I'm concerned about Geo today, Ortiz and Youkilis have smashed him in the past,
but I'm on Washington today, but I'm not going to pay over –110
GL

thebestthereis · 06-09-12, 06:34 AM

Matzuwalkya finds his gyro ball and the Sox drum up a win here, but not pretty. Good luck!

taxe91 · 06-09-12, 06:34 AM

Originally posted by ShivaBowl

I personally witnessed his last two starts in Pawtucket and he was god-awful.
I'm concerned about Geo today, Ortiz and Youkilis have smashed him in the past,
but I'm on Washington today, but I'm not going to pay over –110
GL

i believe the last one was awful because he was aware he was being activated for the red sox afterward, and was on a 50-pitch limit. the start before that he gave up 1 hit in 5 innings? is there anything inherently wrong? ive been hearing reports that he managed to hit 94mph on the gun in the last start

Ghenghis Kahn · 06-09-12, 06:40 AM

dice k will walk bunch of batters and will be in trouble early, i doubt he'll last more than 5 innings. gio g for me.

ShivaBowl · 06-09-12, 06:53 AM

Originally posted by taxe91

i believe the last one was awful because he was aware he was being activated for the red sox afterward, and was on a 50-pitch limit. the start before that he gave up 1 hit in 5 innings? is there anything inherently wrong? ive been hearing reports that he managed to hit 94mph on the gun in the last start

I went to the game knowing that I was either going to bet on him or against him and I definitely going against him today.
In his last start he was lifted in the second inning after throwing 40 pitches.
He just doesn't look good his pitches did not have any movement plus he looked nervous.
Just remember Gio was in the AL and did not walk but ran to the NL.
GL

taxe91 · 06-09-12, 06:57 AM

interesting, would have loved to see those starts in person myself. maybe the over could be in play. thanks for the 'inside' information

Ghenghis Kahn · 06-09-12, 07:53 AM

Originally posted by ShivaBowl

In his last start he was lifted in the second inning after throwing 40 pitches.

10 Game Log
DATE	OPPONENT	RESULT	IP	H	R	ER	HR	BB	SO	GB	FB	TBF	Pit	Dec.	Rel.	ERA
06/03	vs ATL	L 2-3	4.2	7	3	3	0	3	5	4	12	24	91	L(7-2)	--	2.31
05/27	@ ATL	W 7-2	7.0	1	2	2	0	3	10	10	2	25	108	W(7-1)	--	2.04
05/21	@ PHI	W 2-1	6.0	3	0	0	0	3	9	6	5	24	108	W(6-1)	--	1.98
05/16	vs PIT	W 7-4	7.0	4	3	3	1	2	10	6	9	27	106	W(5-1)	--	2.22
05/11	@ CIN	W 7-3	5.0	5	2	2	0	4	9	5	6	24	115	W(4-1)	--	1.94
05/05	vs PHI	W 7-1	7.0	4	1	1	0	1	7	9	10	27	107	W(3-1)	--	1.72
04/29	@ LAD	L 0-2	6.0	3	2	2	0	5	7	7	7	26	88	L(2-1)	--	1.82
04/24	@ SD	W 3-1	6.0	2	0	0	0	2	6	7	7	22	91	W(2-0)	--	1.52
04/17	vs HOU	W 1-0	7.0	2	0	0	0	2	8	11	3	24	91	W(1-0)	--	2.04
04/12	vs CIN	W 3-2	7.0	2	0	0	0	0	7	11	6	24	97	--	--	3.38

BigDeem5 · 06-09-12, 08:05 AM

Dice-K is a joke. The guy throws too many pitches, and none of them well.

ShivaBowl · 06-09-12, 08:15 AM

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ShivaBowl · 06-09-12, 08:16 AM

Matsuzaka made six minor league rehabilitation starts, going 0-3 with a 3.65 earned run average. He totaled 37 innings and gave up 31 hits with nine walks and 30 strikeouts.
In his last start, for Triple A Pawtucket on Monday, Matsuzaka was lifted in the second inning after throwing 40 pitches.

Ghenghis Kahn · 06-09-12, 08:21 AM

my bad, i thought you were talking about gio.

jazzyj7 · 06-09-12, 08:29 AM

The real line should be nationals -135, 140. The bait line is what it is now. On sox.

HoulihansTX · 06-09-12, 08:37 AM

Dice K is a AAA pitcher with a MLB salary.

taxe91 · 06-09-12, 08:46 AM

Originally posted by HoulihansTX

Dice K is a AAA pitcher with a MLB salary.

could say that about a lot of #5 starters.

ShivaBowl · 06-09-12, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by taxe91

interesting, would have loved to see those starts in person myself. maybe the over could be in play. thanks for the 'inside' information

Thanks taxe91, But I think I would pass on the over today. What if G is on his game it could be an
ugly day, for B-Town?

taxe91 · 06-09-12, 09:05 AM

Originally posted by ShivaBowl

Thanks taxe91, But I think I would pass on the over today. What if G is on his game it could be an
ugly day, for B-Town?

I passed on the over too, although I really hope Gio's not on his game because I just took the sox at + money! Gl with your plays

Ghenghis Kahn · 06-09-12, 09:34 AM

Originally posted by jazzyj7

The real line should be nationals -135, 140. The bait line is what it is now. On sox.

just like yesterday right?

ShivaBowl · 06-09-12, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by taxe91

I passed on the over too, although I really hope Gio's not on his game because I just took the sox at + money! Gl with your plays

Sorry, I should have just minded my own business, it will never happen again.
GL with your plays

jazzyj7 · 06-09-12, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn

just like yesterday right?

Thats another reason, actually. Kershaw was a free game to the public, I took it as bait. When is -118 ever a good line for kernshaw? Obviously, the public would jump on the dodgers in that spot. It's just the oddsmakers giving out a win so the public will continue jumping on lines like.... gio gonzalez at -105. you know the oddsmakers aren't gonna give out two freebies

jazzyj7 · 06-09-12, 10:01 AM

Just wait and watch. 70% of people on the nationals, yet line not moving. It's a lock.

jazzyj7 · 06-09-12, 10:03 AM

....

taxe91 · 06-09-12, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by ShivaBowl

Sorry, I should have just minded my own business, it will never happen again.
GL with your plays

not at all, i value any and all input.

brahmabull117 · 06-09-12, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by jazzyj7

70% on nationals, yet line not moving or moving in other direction. lock for sox.

LMAO @ that reverse line movement garbage "being a lock"

jazzyj7 · 06-09-12, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by brahmabull117

LMAO @ that reverse line movement garbage "being a lock"

Aren't you the guy that said the thunder had no chance? I said thunder would cruise 3 and 4? spurs, heat finals? keep laughing. It's not just that the line isin't moving, it's the general line in the first place. Who wouldn't take gio gonzalez 7-2 against matzuzaka in his first game coming back to the mlb. It's gotta be bait, but i also think oddsmakers know the outcome of scores before the game is actually played. That's how I bet.

jazzyj7 · 06-09-12, 06:13 PM

God damn, I suck. officially fade my ass. hopefully the marlins can win.