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ryanXL977
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02-24-08
20615
#2
nope
az has pitching, la doesnt. la cant hit either, so no gain over az. plus saito is out till august
az will win the west
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BadBeatBodog
SBR MVP
06-05-08
1006
#3
That's what I'm saying. As bad as Arizona has tailed off, you have to think they are somewhere in the middle of their blazing start and ice cold finish; I see them as better than .500 and with the injuries for LA how in the world are they going to compete with AZ? I'm wondering why the odds are so low - anyone else?
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ryanXL977
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02-24-08
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#4
la is always overvalued, like nyy
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BadBeatBodog
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06-05-08
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#5
I'm just looking for a reason not to tie up a decent amount of money on this; it seems like a very solid bet to me but would like to hear others' opinions?
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ryanXL977
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02-24-08
20615
#6
its a good bet. i mean, its 50.50 between them and la, thats it
so who do you trust to turn it around more, azs hitting, or la's
i trust chris young and upton and crew a lot kmore than i trust nomar and andruw jones
those guys are done
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BadBeatBodog
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06-05-08
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#7
Yeah that's what I figure. This is -149/+110 at Matchbook but +100/+100 at Sportsbook. I don't get it...
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ryanXL977
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02-24-08
20615
#8
thats weird, but maybe a few diff guys on MB like sz a lot?
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rjt721
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02-06-07
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#9
Originally posted by ryanXL977
az has pitching, la doesnt.
Really?
Originally posted by ryanXL977
its a good bet. i mean, its 50.50 between them and la, thats it
If it's 50/50, how is 'Zona -115 a good bet?
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ryanXL977
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02-24-08
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#10
i meant its a two team race, not 5050
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BadBeatBodog
SBR MVP
06-05-08
1006
#11
The original line I posted is from 5D, btw, and the prop is only for those two teams so it's a *little* different from NL West winner. I don't have money on sportsbook.com so I'd have to take -115 but I just don't see LA fighting through all the injuries. I think AZ has the superior offense and starting pitching, fielding is a wash, and although LA has the bullpen advantage they just lost Saito until August.
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ryanXL977
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02-24-08
20615
#12
i dont think la has the pitching advantage, pen wise.
once they stop pitching qualls, their pen is top 5-8
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BadBeatBodog
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06-05-08
1006
#13
Broxton-Saito was a top 8th-9th inning combo.
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ryanXL977
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02-24-08
20615
#14
true
but with no saito the pen becomes average at best, to me anyhow
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BadBeatBodog
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06-05-08
1006
#15
Yeah it's a huge knock. Broxton should be fine moving into the closer's role but losing Saito and having to bump everyone up an inning is a pretty big deal IMO. The more I think about it AZ seems like such a great bet but the line disparity among books confuses me. Can anyone help me out with NL West prices @ some other books?
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ryanXL977
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02-24-08
20615
#16
i have az -125 on mine
dude, saito is a top tier closer, losing him is huge
so who pitches 8th now? beimel? proctor? if proctor then la wont win 82 games, he is horrid