CLE Indians (Ubaldo) @ TEX Rangers (Holland)

Hall2Collie · 08-05-11, 10:32 AM

I'd argue Texas has one of the better 'pen's in baseball now

Of course the stats look terrible because they are all pre-trade stats.

Uehara has proven to be almost unhittable in the AL and Adams seems like he should be able to carry his dominance over just fine.

KnowingNothing · 08-05-11, 10:35 AM

Get your head out of your ass maybe Dan?

I managed to get 7 cents better than Pinny at a standard Australian book.

Nevertheless it's only a small play, but I'm not arguing with the price I got as a value play.

I_WILL_WIN · 08-05-11, 10:55 AM

You are a fu.cking dumb piece of shit.

"send an ace-caliber pitcher to the mound, whereas the Rangers start Holland. Also their bullpen is among the worst in the game. Now can you count on Holland to pitch well enough to give the relievers some insurance? Will the Rangers bats be able to hurt Ubaldo?"

Holland is not an ace-caliber pitcher and Jimenez is? Your absolutely wrong with that statement. Rangers bullpen is "among the worst in the game" really? with Yoshinori Tateyama, Koji Uehara, Mike Adams and Neftali Feliz, yeah our bullpen is absolutely the worst in the game, dumb shit. "can you count on Holland to pitch well enough" Derek Holland will take the hill for the Rangers coming off his fourth shutout of the season, and third in five starts, last Saturday. Derek Holland has 4 (FOUR) COMPLETE GAME SHUT OUTS in MLB this year, here is a trivia question....there is only one other pitcher that can say this do you know who? Here is a clue, he pitches for the Philies and he pitched a gem last night vs. the Giants. CLIFF LEE

Do some more research before you look like an absolutely stupid piece of shit. Do I think tonight will be a blowout? no but I do know that Derek Holland can pitch a gem for us tonight. Good luck picking the tribe......

bigballer891 · 08-05-11, 11:43 AM

Texas just jumped to -150

Allure · 08-05-11, 12:51 PM

I_WILL_WIN

You are a fu.cking dumb piece of shit.

If your argument starts this way, there's no reason to read the rest.

BigDeem5 · 08-05-11, 01:14 PM

Take Ubaldo at +141. This guy will be dealing in the AL. Roll Tribe. Easy pick.

Ice House · 08-05-11, 01:15 PM

or the Rockies traded him b/c they no that his best years are behind him.

BigDan · 08-05-11, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by Ice House

or the Rockies traded him b/c they no that his best years are behind him.

Rox traded him because they apparently got a very nice return on him. i wouldnt try to read anymore into it than that.

still not saying i know how he will perform tonight or the rest of the season for that matter, all i know is his numbers away from Coors this season have been more than solid.

BigDeem5 · 08-05-11, 03:39 PM

The Rockies got two very good prospects out of the deal, Alex White and Cleveland's #1 prospect (lefty pitcher with a great curve).

Allure · 08-05-11, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by BigDan

Rox traded him because they apparently got a very nice return on him. i wouldnt try to read anymore into it than that.

still not saying i know how he will perform tonight or the rest of the season for that matter, all i know is his numbers away from Coors this season have been more than solid.

Probably because Coors is a hitters park just like Texas Ballpark.

BigDan · 08-05-11, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by Allure

Probably because Coors is a hitters park just like Texas Ballpark.

not the same at all....

darrell74 · 08-05-11, 06:55 PM

Holland ff -110 is the play
Holland is the hottest pitcher in bases at this time.

Allure · 08-05-11, 07:16 PM

Allure · 08-05-11, 07:17 PM

Like I said, you can't count on a pitcher like Holland, even if he's had a few solid games.

3 earned runs and 1 hit by pitch in the first inning, 1 out.

KnowingNothing · 08-05-11, 07:31 PM

Early days bud.

Allure · 08-05-11, 07:36 PM

For sure. 3 runs mean not that much against the Texas offense. I only have 1u on the Tribe, so I don't really care who wins. Wild start though.

Allure · 08-05-11, 07:44 PM

Rangers better get Holland out, guy doesn't even know where his pitches go.

No command.

Allure · 08-05-11, 07:52 PM

Well, looks like a very, very easy winner. Vegas wanted to f*ck the Rangers bettors and they did.

LockPickMaster · 08-05-11, 08:07 PM

I took Cleveland +1.5 -180 in the MLB contest

darrell74 · 08-05-11, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by darrell74

Holland ff -110 is the play
Holland is the hottest pitcher in bases at this time.

I'll eat crow for that

darrell74 · 08-05-11, 08:28 PM

Holland was the hottest free agent starting pitcher in most fantasy baseball leagues.
I picked him up in my rotisserie league and he just increased my ERA and WHIP a whole bunch.
In 2 innings, Holland f'd me-he really, really f'd me.

LockPickMaster · 08-05-11, 08:33 PM

Holland gave up 7 runs on 7/20 against LAA, maybe he is regressing in the 2nd half of the season.

LockPickMaster · 08-05-11, 09:24 PM

Now its getting a little scary.

LockPickMaster · 08-05-11, 10:36 PM

Please hold on Cleveland RL

BigDeem5 · 08-05-11, 10:43 PM

Come on Tribe get the W.

BigDeem5 · 08-05-11, 10:44 PM

Shelly double play duncan

LockPickMaster · 08-05-11, 11:15 PM

Cleveland RL

DDT · 08-05-11, 11:23 PM

Nice comeback for my boys!

KnowingNothing · 08-05-11, 11:53 PM

Originally posted by Allure

Well, looks like a very, very easy winner. Vegas wanted to f*ck the Rangers bettors and they did.

Sure about that?

Can't ever write off Texas bats, especially at home. Guns at the moment.

LockPickMaster · 08-05-11, 11:59 PM

Originally posted by LockPickMaster

the sabermetrics have both pitchers even but texas has the firepower to win

I took Cleveland RL but could have taken Tex ML also