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  • j$
    SBR MVP
    • 03-07-08
    • 3831

    #1
    Angels/Mets
    Everyone knows who Johan Santana is and what he's accomplished during his career. I'll only mention that since being traded to Mets, his overall numbers have stayed pretty much the same while on some special occasions his most important stat has been much worse compared to his AL days. I'm talking about WHIP - a stat which shows us the amount of walks and hits pitcher surrendered over the inning. Considering Santana will be pitching on 5 days rest tonight, this just wasn't his best spot so far because his WHIP in this situation stands at 1.42 while at the same time he allowed the opponents to bat .284 vs him. His record (3-2) and especially ERA (2.43) stayed as good as ever. Another important information - Santana has posted only 1-2 record at Angels Stadium with very ugly 5.16 ERA, although he's 2-3 4.05 ERA vs Angels for his career.

    As for John Lackey, he's been next to outstanding since he joined the Angels rotation, coming back from DL. Lackey is 3-1 for the season with 1.83 ERA while going 2-0, 1.61 ERA 0.76 WHIP over his last 3 starts - all 3 won by Angels. He's been very durable as well, totalling 22.1 innings over that span. Unlike Santana, Lackey will be going on 6 days rest, where he's 2-0 with 1.23 ERA and 0.95 WHIP while limiting the opponents to only .218 BA. Also unlike Santana who's been getting around 4.5 runs per start, Angels have been averaging only 2.5 runs for Lackey but knowing his numbers along with the quality of the Angel's pen - that seems to be enough.

    Now some offensive numbers for each team. Santana is well known inside Angels clubhouse, because they've seen him pitch so many times. That especially counts for Torii Hunter, who's used to play behind him, in CF for the long time in Twins uniform. This will be the first time those two will stand against each other so it will be interesting to see who'll come on top From other Angels, Anderson has .273 BA (22AB), Matthews .286 BA (14AB), and those two have actually fared the best vs Santana, hitting cumulative 3 homers. Figgins and Guerrero are batting only .200 in 30AB against him. From the Mets current lineup, Castillo, Delgado and Easley have fared the best against Lackey, combining for .464 BA (28AB) with 2 HRs and a double. Interesting but Beltran, Anderson, Castro, Chavez and Reyes are combined 0-for-20 vs Lackey. Trot Nixon, a longtime Red Sox is also only .250 hitter vs Lackey (16AB) with a double.

    While the Mets are averaging around .240 BA .300 OBP and 3.5 RPG vs lefties lately, the Angels have been averaging around .300 BA .380 OBP and 6.0 runs per game vs southpaws, going 13-3 vs them for the season (with 7-1 at home last 8 times).

    Looking at both team's pens - Mets have only Joe Smith (15.43 ERA 2.57 WHIP L3) and Scott Schoenweis (3.86 ERA 0.43 WHIP L3) rested while their closer Billy Wagner has been used last night and has a 6.00 ERA with 2.00 WHIP over the last 3 appearances. Both Heilman (3.38 ERA 0.75 WHIP L3) and Feliciano (5.40 ERA 1.80 WHIP L3) have pitched cumulative only 1 inning last night so let's say they should available, too.

    From the Angels pen - Darren O'Day is on a 2 days rest (5.06 ERA 1.69 WHIP L3), while both Scot Shields (0.00 ERA 0.86 WHIP L3) and F-Rod (3.00 ERA 1.33 WHIP L3) are on a 1 day of rest. Shields has pitched a total of 3.2 innings over their last 8 games and his WHIP is only 0.63 while he's got 4 strikeouts over that period. Imo, those two are the most probable for being used if everything goes as planned tonight (with Lackey going 7 quality innings).

    Im on the Angels tonight -115
  • BadBeatBodog
    SBR MVP
    • 06-05-08
    • 1006

    #2
    I've got Under 7 +105 GL
    "Things happen for a reason, they say, but I say there's a reason things happen"

    "Not everybody talks, but everybody lies / Not everybody lives, but everybody dies"
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    • slow money
      SBR Rookie
      • 06-16-08
      • 13

      #3
      Angels -118

      Hope Mets crumble tonight their speciality.
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      • EaglesPhan36
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 12-06-06
        • 71662

        #4
        Take Mets at plus money if you can still find it. I'm banking on the wake-up theory because this team is ready to have some parts traded away if they don't turn it around for Manuel. Should be close at least ... maybe.
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        • j$
          SBR MVP
          • 03-07-08
          • 3831

          #5
          LOL...Ill stick with stats over a wake up theory
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          • JBC77
            SBR MVP
            • 03-23-07
            • 3816

            #6
            I usually take the dog with a great pitcher like Santana. I just don't trust the Mets...LAA -115 for me.
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            • j$
              SBR MVP
              • 03-07-08
              • 3831

              #7
              Almost game time boys.....Ralley Monkeys pumped
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              • youngsc
                Restricted User
                • 06-10-08
                • 212

                #8
                SOB I got LAA -119 but I feel jipped when seeing everyone else's lines
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                • ryanXL977
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 02-24-08
                  • 20615

                  #9
                  gl guys
                  i cant touch this
                  i would do johan but id otn trust mets

                  gl
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                  • youngsc
                    Restricted User
                    • 06-10-08
                    • 212

                    #10
                    How are you guys feeling on the under?
                    Season averages show around 9 runs combined but the two pitchers are beasts with their era's.
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                    • ryanXL977
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 02-24-08
                      • 20615

                      #11
                      i wont touch that udner
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                      • j$
                        SBR MVP
                        • 03-07-08
                        • 3831

                        #12
                        3-1 Angels I told u guys
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                        • Wilforth
                          Restricted User
                          • 05-10-08
                          • 16309

                          #13
                          Angels will cream the Mets. Who went for the under? Under 7?
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                          • youngsc
                            Restricted User
                            • 06-10-08
                            • 212

                            #14
                            I'm wary of those under 7's. I'm putting together a full stat sheet on the over/unders for the last 2 years in regular season play. If I get some free time tomorrow I'll work on it some more.
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                            • MJFtheGenius
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 05-31-07
                              • 7257

                              #15
                              national league stinks

                              always take the american league team at home
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                              • Wilforth
                                Restricted User
                                • 05-10-08
                                • 16309

                                #16
                                youngsc,
                                What's your take on the Giants game? I have the Giants to devour the Tigers.
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                                • j$
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 03-07-08
                                  • 3831

                                  #17
                                  4-1 Halos lovin it.....Looks like Im going 3-0 today
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                                  • pimike
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 03-23-08
                                    • 37139

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by j$
                                    4-1 Halos lovin it.....Looks like Im going 3-0 today
                                    You spoke to soon, don't jinz yourself

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                                    • j$
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 03-07-08
                                      • 3831

                                      #19
                                      3-0 come back and worship me later
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                                      • youngsc
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 06-10-08
                                        • 212

                                        #20
                                        My pick is on the ML. Both teams are fair by the numbers with SF edging them out slightly. With that and clear weather I think SF is safe.
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                                        • Wilforth
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 05-10-08
                                          • 16309

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by youngsc
                                          My pick is on the ML. Both teams are fair by the numbers with SF edging them out slightly. With that and clear weather I think SF is safe.
                                          That's exactly what I wanted to hear. Go Angels! Go Giants! I might have a good night rest tonight.
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                                          • youngsc
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 06-10-08
                                            • 212

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Wilforth
                                            That's exactly what I wanted to hear. Go Angels! Go Giants! I might have a good night rest tonight.
                                            Angels have the 3rd best fielding percentage so as long as they don't do something stupid that should be safe. SF is good but I would like to see them score instead of leaving these damned runners on.
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                                            • pimike
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 03-23-08
                                              • 37139

                                              #23
                                              Mets will come back in this one
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                                              • ryanXL977
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 02-24-08
                                                • 20615

                                                #24
                                                this game is over
                                                angels win
                                                ITS DONE
                                                angels pen
                                                johan wont throw past 7th
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                                                • pimike
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 03-23-08
                                                  • 37139

                                                  #25
                                                  We shall see just like yesterday I was right Ryan
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                                                  • ryanXL977
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 02-24-08
                                                    • 20615

                                                    #26
                                                    this game is not coming back
                                                    mets are no good
                                                    win some lose some
                                                    i got killed today but won huge yesterday
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                                                    • j$
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 03-07-08
                                                      • 3831

                                                      #27
                                                      Go read the pen stats I posted mike.....Angels coast now
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                                                      • ryanXL977
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 02-24-08
                                                        • 20615

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by pimike
                                                        We shall see just like yesterday I was right Ryan
                                                        and today youa re wrong
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                                                        • Wilforth
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 05-10-08
                                                          • 16309

                                                          #29
                                                          There's no coming back in this game. The Angels have it wrapped up.
                                                          The Giants game is looking funny. 1-1 in the 6th.
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                                                          • ryanXL977
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 02-24-08
                                                            • 20615

                                                            #30
                                                            this angels game is done
                                                            seattle game isnt done though
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                                                            • youngsc
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 06-10-08
                                                              • 212

                                                              #31
                                                              Angels win
                                                              SF will
                                                              FL trying

                                                              Whoo, all three win I go 3-0 and 1-1 on props with these three.
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                                                              • ryanXL977
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 02-24-08
                                                                • 20615

                                                                #32
                                                                not sure on sf
                                                                hope so though
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                                                                • Wilforth
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 05-10-08
                                                                  • 16309

                                                                  #33
                                                                  There might still some drama in Seatle. But the OVER will cash in Seatle.
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                                                                  • ryanXL977
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 02-24-08
                                                                    • 20615

                                                                    #34
                                                                    i had sea under, marlins

                                                                    horrid day
                                                                    unreal
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                                                                    • Wilforth
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 05-10-08
                                                                      • 16309

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by ryanXL977
                                                                      not sure on sf
                                                                      hope so though
                                                                      SF will. Let's just keep saying "they will" and then they will deliver. The Tigers know they ought not to win tonight.
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