New System in 10 days 41-1 (+34.44 units)

dlunc3 · 06-18-11, 03:06 PM

are you going to show how the system works?

jas0309 · 06-19-11, 08:41 AM

2011 System to date: 46-3
System profit/loss: +7.44 units

(6/18/11) N.Y. Yankees/ Cubs Under 8 (D) Win
(6/18/11) N.Y. Yankees/ Cubs Under 8 (C) Win
(6/18/11) Atlanta M/L -110 (B) (A bet was -140)Lost
(6/18/11) Atlanta/Texas Over 8.5 (B)Win
(6/18/11) Florida M/L +132 (D) (A/B +bets C bet-115)Lost
(6/18/11) Florida M/L +132 (D) (A/B +bets C bet-139)Lost
(6/18/11) Florida M/L +132 (B) (A bet was +)Lost
(6/18/11) Toronto M/L +116 (A)Win
(6/18/11) Kansas City M/L +151 (A)Lost
(6/18/11) Detroit/ Colorado Under 9 (A) Push
(6/18/11) Philadelphia/Seattle Under 6.5 (A) Win
4 game chase

I am way up without chasing....chasing may not be the way to go with this system....will post my A,B,C,D records after work.

jas0309 · 06-19-11, 09:37 AM

2011 System to date: 46-3
System profit/loss: +7.44 units

(6/19/11) LA Angles M/L +128 (C) (A/B +ML bets)
(6/19/11) Florida M/L +183 (C)
(6/19/11) San Diego/Minnesota Over 7.5 (A)
(6/19/11) Colorado M/L +129 (A)
(6/19/11) LA Dodgers M/L -145 (A)
(6/19/11) White Sox M/L +119 (A)
(6/19/11) N.Y. Yankees/ Cubs Under 8.5 (A)

jas0309 · 06-19-11, 09:40 PM

2011 System to date: 50-3
System profit/loss: +12.75 units

(6/19/11) LA Angles M/L +128 (C) (A/B +ML bets)Win
(6/19/11) Florida M/L +183 (C) Lost
(6/19/11) San Diego/Minnesota Over 7.5 (A) Win
(6/19/11) Colorado M/L +129 (A) Lost
(6/19/11) LA Dodgers M/L -145 (A) Win
(6/19/11) White Sox M/L +119 (A) Win
(6/19/11) N.Y. Yankees/ Cubs Under 8.5 (A) Lost

A (31-28)
B (13-11)
C (5-5)
D (1-3)

Just watch the system for now...May need to get away from the chasing part and just make all bets to win 1 unit. D bets wipe out too much of your profits.

jas0309 · 06-20-11, 03:56 PM

2011 System to date: 50-3
System profit/loss: +12.75 units

(6/20/11) Atlanta M/L -118 (C) (A bet -140 B bet -110)
(6/20/11) Houston M/L +163 (A)
(6/20/11) Tampa Bay/Milwaukee Over 9 (B)
(6/20/11) Tampa Bay M/L +127 (D)
(6/20/11) LA Dodgers/Detroit Under 7 (A)

A (31-28)
B (13-11)
C (5-5)
D (1-3)

Again just watch the chase system. Looking at just playing every play at 1 unit. Checking my numbers will post them soon.

jas0309 · 06-21-11, 07:48 AM

2011 System to date: 54-3
System profit/loss: +18.91 units

(6/20/11) Atlanta M/L -118 (C) (A bet -140 B bet -110) Win
(6/20/11) Houston M/L +163 (A) Lost
(6/20/11) Tampa Bay/Milwaukee Over 9 (B) Win
(6/20/11) Tampa Bay M/L +127 (D) Win
(6/20/11) LA Dodgers/Detroit Under 7 (A) Win

A (32-29)
B (14-11)
C (6-5)
D (2-3)

Will culculate the units up today if you just bet 1 unit per game with this system and not chase, to see which is the best way to go.

jas0309 · 06-21-11, 08:30 AM

If you only bet to win 1 unit per game you will be up +7.51 in 13 days compared to +18.91 in the chase system. But the chase system does have 5 open bets in it. This could be a very successful system no matter how you play it. Good Luck

jas0309 · 06-21-11, 09:57 AM

2011 System to date: 54-3
4 game chase System profit/loss: +18.91 units
1 unit bet per game no chase profit/loss: +7.51

(6/21/11) Pittsburgh M/L +106 (A)
(6/21/11) Oakland M/L +132 (A)
(6/21/11) San Diego M/L +204 (A)
(6/21/11) San Diego/Boston Under 8 (A)
(6/21/11) Atlanta M/L -119 (A)
(6/21/11) Houston M/L +215 (B) (A bet +ML)
(6/21/11) LA Dodgers M/L +108 (B) (A bet +ML)
(6/21/11) LA Dodgers/Detroit Under 7 (A)

A (32-29)
B (14-11)
C (6-5)
D (2-3)

OPEN BETS
(A)Yankees/Cubs - over/under
(A) Kansas City/St Louis - win/lose
(A) Arizona/San Francisco - over/under

qmoney · 06-21-11, 10:30 AM

I'm skeptical of the 54-3 claim, but still interested nonetheless. I'll need some explaining though - how would I go about tailing this?

How does the chase system work? In simple terms, what does an A, B, C, or D bet mean for me? A = 1 unit play, B = 2 units, and so on?

The things listed in parentheses are also very puzzling to me, for example ... "Atlanta M/L -118 (C) (A bet -140 B bet -110)" ... what does this mean? Another example, what does "(A bet +ML)" next to a B bet mean? Sorry for my ignorance, I've never used or learned a chase system.

jas0309 · 06-21-11, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by qmoney

I'm skeptical of the 54-3 claim, but still interested nonetheless. I'll need some explaining though - how would I go about tailing this?

How does the chase system work? In simple terms, what does an A, B, C, or D bet mean for me? A = 1 unit play, B = 2 units, and so on?

The things listed in parentheses are also very puzzling to me, for example ... "Atlanta M/L -118 (C) (A bet -140 B bet -110)" ... what does this mean? Another example, what does "(A bet +ML)" next to a B bet mean? Sorry for my ignorance, I've never used or learned a chase system.

I rather not say my system. Just follow my thread.

A bet means it is first play of the system. B second play if A lost and so on. It's a 4 game chase.

In parentheses A bet -140 means the A bet lost at -140 so the next bet would be to win that -140 back that you lost plus the 1 unit. If you just bet 10, 20, 40, 80 sometimes you will not win your unit back. You have to keep track of your bets that lost in the system. (A bet +ML) means the A bet was lets say +134 you only lost that one unit you didnt have to pay extra to win that extra unit. So now you only have to bet 2 units to win that unit back plus a unit.

Remember this is a new system only 13 days old. You can't backtest this so I'm not being lazy you just can't do it. This could be really big or this could be like the other 100000 terrible systems out there. Hope this helps.

I would recommend to just watch or play just to win 1 unit per game/no chase system for now until maybe the next week or two. Let me know if I can help explain it better.

qmoney · 06-21-11, 11:19 AM

Thanks man, you explained it well. I wasn't trying to get into how you came up with the system, just how to play it. I'll keep an eye on it and see how things go, good luck.

jas0309 · 06-22-11, 05:31 AM

2011 System to date: 59-3
4 game chase System profit/loss: +25.29 units
1 unit bet per game no chase profit/loss: +12.27

(6/21/11) Pittsburgh M/L +106 (A) Win
(6/21/11) Oakland M/L +132 (A) Win
(6/21/11) San Diego M/L +204 (A) Win
(6/21/11) San Diego/Boston Under 8 (A) Lost
(6/21/11) Atlanta M/L -119 (A) Win
(6/21/11) Houston M/L +215 (B) (A bet +ML) Lost
(6/21/11) LA Dodgers M/L +108 (B) (A bet +ML) Win
(6/21/11) LA Dodgers/Detroit Under 7 (A) Push

A (36-30)
B (15-12)
C (6-5)
D (2-3)

OPEN BETS
(A)Yankees/Cubs - over/under
(A) Kansas City/St Louis - win/lose
(A) Arizona/San Francisco - over/under
(A) San Diego/Boston Under 8
(B) Houston/Texas - win/lose

VicVega91 · 06-22-11, 05:35 AM

best of luck today !!

jas0309 · 06-22-11, 09:10 AM

2011 System to date: 59-3
4 game chase System profit/loss: +25.29 units
1 unit bet per game no chase profit/loss: +12.27

(6/22/11) Pittsburgh M/L +100 (A)
(6/22/11) Cincinnati M/L -108 (A)
(6/22/11) Tampa Bay M/L +111 (A)
(6/22/11) LA Dodgers M/L -103 (A)
(6/22/11) Washington M/L -106 (A)

A (36-30)
B (15-12)
C (6-5)
D (2-3)

OPEN BETS
(A)Yankees/Cubs - over/under
(A) Kansas City/St Louis - win/lose
(A) Arizona/San Francisco - over/under
(A) San Diego/Boston Under 8
(B) Houston/Texas - win/lose

jas0309 · 06-22-11, 08:53 PM

2011 System to date: 62-3
4 game chase System profit/loss: +28.30 units
1 unit bet per game no chase profit/loss: +13.27

(6/22/11) Pittsburgh M/L +100 (A)Win
(6/22/11) Cincinnati M/L -108 (A) Lost
(6/22/11) Tampa Bay M/L +111 (A) Win
(6/22/11) LA Dodgers M/L -103 (A) Lost
(6/22/11) Washington M/L -106 (A) Win

A (39-32)
B (15-12)
C (6-5)
D (2-3)

OPEN BETS
(A)Yankees/Cubs - over/under
(A) Kansas City/St Louis - win/lose
(A) Arizona/San Francisco - over/under
(A) San Diego/Boston Under 8
(B) Houston/Texas - win/lose
(A) Cincinnati/Yankees - win/lose
(A) LA Dodgers/Detroit - win/lose

jas0309 · 06-23-11, 09:10 AM

2011 System to date: 62-3
4 game chase System profit/loss: +28.30 units
1 unit bet per game no chase profit/loss: +13.27

(6/23/11) Oakland M/L +124 (A)
(6/23/11) Oakland/Mets Under 8 (A)
(6/23/11) Minnesota/San Francisco Under 6.5 (B)

A (39-32)
B (15-12)
C (6-5)
D (2-3)

OPEN BETS
(A)Yankees/Cubs - over/under
(A) Kansas City/St Louis - win/lose
(A) San Diego/Boston Under 8
(B) Houston/Texas - win/lose
(A) Cincinnati/Yankees - win/lose
(A) LA Dodgers/Detroit - win/lose

jas0309 · 06-23-11, 07:35 PM

2011 System to date: 64-3
4 game chase System profit/loss: +30.30 units
1 unit bet per game no chase profit/loss: +14.27

(6/23/11) Oakland M/L +124 (A) Lost
(6/23/11) Oakland/Mets Under 8 (A) Win
(6/23/11) Minnesota/San Francisco Under 6.5 (B) Win

A (40-33)
B (16-12)
C (6-5)
D (2-3)

OPEN BETS
(A)Yankees/Cubs - over/under
(A) Kansas City/St Louis - win/lose
(A) San Diego/Boston Under 8
(B) Houston/Texas - win/lose
(A) Cincinnati/Yankees - win/lose
(A) LA Dodgers/Detroit - win/lose
(A) Oakland/Mets - win/lose

jas0309 · 06-24-11, 02:34 PM

2011 System to date: 64-3
4 game chase System profit/loss: +30.30 units
1 unit bet per game no chase profit/loss: +14.27

(6/24/11) Colorado M/L +124 (B) (A bet was -108)
(6/24/11) Arizona M/L +133 (B) (A bet was -103)
(6/24/11) Mets M/L +153 (B) (A bet was +ML)
(6/24/11) Mets M/L +153 (C) (A & B bet was +ML)
(6/24/11) Toronto/St. Louis Under 8 (A)

A (40-33)
B (16-12)
C (6-5)
D (2-3)

OPEN BETS
(A)Yankees/Cubs - over/under
(A) Kansas City/St Louis - win/lose
(A) San Diego/Boston - over/under

jas0309 · 06-24-11, 10:02 PM

2011 System to date: 66-3
4 game chase System profit/loss: +33.58 units
1 unit bet per game no chase profit/loss: +14.74

(6/24/11) Colorado M/L +124 (B) (A bet was -108) Win
(6/24/11) Arizona M/L +133 (B) (A bet was -103) Win
(6/24/11) Mets M/L +153 (B) (A bet was +ML) Lost
(6/24/11) Mets M/L +153 (C) (A & B bet was +ML) Lost
(6/24/11) Toronto/St. Louis Under 8 (A) Lost

A (40-34)
B (18-13)
C (6-6)
D (2-3)

OPEN BETS
(A)Yankees/Cubs - over/under
(A) Kansas City/St Louis - win/lose
(A) San Diego/Boston - over/under
(B) Mets/Texas - win/lose
(C) Mets/Texas - win/lose
(A) Toronto/St. Louis - over/under

jas0309 · 06-25-11, 09:51 AM

2011 System to date: 66-3
4 game chase System profit/loss: +33.58 units
1 unit bet per game no chase profit/loss: +14.74

(6/25/11) Colorado M/L +195 (A)
(6/25/11) Colorado/NY Yankees Under 9 (B)
(6/25/11) San Francisco M/L -138 (A)
(6/25/11) Mets M/L +152 (C) (A & B bet was +ML)
(6/25/11) Mets M/L +152 (D) (A,B & C bet was +ML)
(6/25/11) LA Angels M/L +127 (A)
(6/25/11) Tampa Bay M/L +102 (A)

(6/25/11) Boston/Pittsburgh Under 8.5 (B)
(6/25/11) Baltimore M/L -102 (A)
(6/25/11) Minnesota M/L +140 (A)
(6/25/11) St. Louis M/L -142 (B) (A bet was +ML)
(6/25/11) St. Louis/Toronto Under 8 (B)
(6/25/11) San Diego M/L +122 (A)

A (40-34)
B (18-13)
C (6-6)
D (2-3)

OPEN BETS
NONE

jas0309 · 06-26-11, 06:38 AM

2011 System to date: 71-3
4 game chase System profit/loss: +44.11 units
1 unit bet per game no chase profit/loss: +10.63

(6/25/11) Colorado M/L +195 (A) Lost
(6/25/11) Colorado/NY Yankees Under 9 (B) Lost
(6/25/11) San Francisco M/L -138 (A) Win
(6/25/11) Mets M/L +152 (C) Win
(6/25/11) Mets M/L +152 (D) Win
(6/25/11) LA Angels M/L +127 (A) Win
(6/25/11) Tampa Bay M/L +102 (A) Win

(6/25/11) Boston/Pittsburgh Under 8.5 (B) Lost
(6/25/11) Baltimore M/L -102 (A) Lost
(6/25/11) Minnesota M/L +140 (A) Lost
(6/25/11) St. Louis M/L -142 (B) (A bet was +ML) Lost
(6/25/11) St. Louis/Toronto Under 8 (B) Lost
(6/25/11) San Diego M/L +122 (A) Lost

A (43-38)
B (18-17)
C (7-6)
D (3-3)

OPEN BETS
Colorado/Yankees M/L (A)
Colorado/Yankees O/U (B)
Boston/Pittsbugh O/U (B)
Baltimore/Cincinnati M/L (A)
Minnesota/Milwaukee M/L (A)
St Louis/Toronto M/L (B)
St. Louis/Toronto O/U (B)
San Diego/Atlanta M/L (A)

jas0309 · 06-26-11, 10:23 AM

2011 System to date: 71-3
4 game chase System profit/loss: +44.11 units
1 unit bet per game no chase profit/loss: +10.63

(6/26/11) Pittsburgh M/L +119 (A)
(6/26/11) Oakland M/L +194 (A)
(6/26/11) Colorado M/L +156 (B) (A bet was +ML)
(6/26/11) Washington M/L +137 (A)
(6/26/11) Cubs M/L +122 (A)
(6/26/11) Atlanta M/L -126 (B) (a bet was +ML)
(6/26/11) Seattle M/L +108 (A)

A (43-38)
B (18-17)
C (7-6)
D (3-3)

OPEN BETS
Colorado/Yankees O/U (B)
Boston/Pittsbugh O/U (B)
Baltimore/Cincinnati M/L (A)
Minnesota/Milwaukee M/L (A)
St Louis/Toronto M/L (B)
St. Louis/Toronto O/U (B)

afrodeschiac · 06-26-11, 11:19 AM

Cool deal. And, thanks for explaining everything to "qmoney", it helped me understand too. You've got another follower/believer in me.

jas0309 · 06-26-11, 07:17 PM

Thanks afrodeschiac hopefully this system is the real deal glad today was just a and b bets just an awful day.

kingcheng · 06-26-11, 08:00 PM

ooo im going to look into this system and try it out....good looks man

ColdBeerHere · 06-26-11, 10:43 PM

Playing that many games using a chase system your unit size has to be tiny in relation to your BR.....I utilize a chase system where my unit size is around 3.5 % of my BR....

Looks like you have a good record though...BOL

jas0309 · 06-27-11, 05:48 AM

Yes my unit size is very small $10

jas0309 · 06-27-11, 05:54 AM

2011 System to date: 73-3
4 game chase System profit/loss: +46.56 units
1 unit bet per game no chase profit/loss: +8.08

(6/26/11) Pittsburgh M/L +119 (A) Lost
(6/26/11) Oakland M/L +194 (A) Lost
(6/26/11) Colorado M/L +156 (B) Lost(A bet was +ML)
(6/26/11) Washington M/L +137 (A) Win
(6/26/11) Cubs M/L +122 (A) Lost
(6/26/11) Atlanta M/L -126 (B) Lost (a bet was +ML)
(6/26/11) Seattle M/L +108 (A) Win

A (45-40)
B (18-19)
C (7-6)
D (3-3)

OPEN BETS
Pittsburgh/Boston M/L (A)
Oakland/Philadelphia M/L (A)
Colorado/Yankees M/L (B)
Cubs/Kansas City M/L (A)
Atlanta/San Diego M/L (B)
Colorado/Yankees O/U (B)
Boston/Pittsbugh O/U (B)
Baltimore/Cincinnati M/L (A)
Minnesota/Milwaukee M/L (A)
St Louis/Toronto M/L (B)
St. Louis/Toronto O/U (B)

First time this system has lost 2 days in a row hopefully this isnt a trend!

andywend · 06-27-11, 06:15 AM

Any system that involves a series of chase bets is WORTHLESS. The only thing worse is when a chase system involves buying points as well.

The most famous of these systems is the Morrison chase system which involves buying 3 points (where you have to pay between -170 and -200) and chasing 2X (maximum 3 losses).

In order to break even using the Morrison system, you have to win 95% of your series wagers. Amazingly, the Morrison system has tons of special filters which were all put into place to wipe out prior system losses.

When you need to win 19 out of every 20 bets just to break even, you are going to experience long winning streaks (i.e. if you bet on all college football teams straight up that are 20 point favorites or higher). People get sucked in until they finally have the one big loser and realize they have just went 15-1 and are down money.

When you see a system advertising "A", "B", "C", "D" bets and so on, do yourself a favor and run the other way as fast as you can.

jas0309 · 06-27-11, 06:58 AM

Originally posted by andywend

Any system that involves a series of chase bets is WORTHLESS. The only thing worse is when a chase system involves buying points as well.

The most famous of these systems is the Morrison chase system which involves buying 3 points (where you have to pay between -170 and -200) and chasing 2X (maximum 3 losses).

In order to break even using the Morrison system, you have to win 95% of your series wagers. Amazingly, the Morrison system has tons of special filters which were all put into place to wipe out prior system losses.

When you need to win 19 out of every 20 bets just to break even, you are going to experience long winning streaks (i.e. if you bet on all college football teams straight up that are 20 point favorites or higher). People get sucked in until they finally have the one big loser and realize they have just went 15-1 and are down money.

When you see a system advertising "A", "B", "C", "D" bets and so on, do yourself a favor and run the other way as fast as you can.

I wouldnt call being up 50 units in a couple of weeks worthless. Also, you must not have looked at my picks because none of my picks do you buy points or play a spread that high. So most of the time you only need to win 10 or 11 games depending on the M/Ls to get your money back. and I'm 73-3 not 15-1. Sounds like you are bitter bc you lost alot of money on Morrison. I did too that's why I put in the time to make this system. Never said that this is going to be great, if you look back I said this could be like the other 10000 bad systems out there. But right now this is prolly the best one on here in terms of records and units in only 3 weeks. Also, this is why I put a non chase system in place for that reason if you dont want to take the risk in chase systems. It's doing ok right now at +8 units in 3 weeks. But thanks for your concern and wasting space in my thread.

Lank66 · 06-27-11, 08:26 AM

Don't worry about the naysayers, they come and go. Keep up the good work.

jas0309 · 06-27-11, 08:30 AM

2011 System to date: 73-3
4 game chase System profit/loss: +46.56 units
1 unit bet per game no chase profit/loss: +8.08

(6/27/11) Toronto M/L +150 (C) (A bet was +ML B bet -142)
(6/27/11) Tampa Bay M/L -111 (B) (A bet was -102)
(6/27/11) Cleveland M/L +164 (A)
(6/27/11) Cleveland/Arizona Over 9 (A) (+105)
(6/27/11) Atlanta M/L +113 (C) (A bet was +ML B bet was -126)

A (45-40)
B (18-19)
C (7-6)
D (3-3)

OPEN BETS
Pittsburgh/Boston M/L (A)
Oakland/Philadelphia M/L (A)
Colorado/Yankees M/L (B)
Cubs/Kansas City M/L (A)
Colorado/Yankees O/U (B)
Boston/Pittsbugh O/U (B)
Minnesota/Milwaukee M/L (A)
St. Louis/Toronto O/U (B)

jas0309 · 06-28-11, 12:00 AM

2011 System to date: 75-3
4 game chase System profit/loss: +50.308 units
1 unit bet per game no chase profit/loss: +8.74

(6/27/11) Toronto M/L +150 (C) (A bet was +ML B bet -142) Lost
(6/27/11) Tampa Bay M/L -111 (B) (A bet was -102)Lost
(6/27/11) Cleveland M/L +164 (A) Win
(6/27/11) Cleveland/Arizona Over 9 (A) (+105)Push
(6/27/11) Atlanta M/L +113 (C) (A bet was +ML B bet was -126)Win

A (46-40)
B (18-20)
C (8-7)
D (3-3)

OPEN BETS
Pittsburgh/Boston M/L (A)
Oakland/Philadelphia M/L (A)
Colorado/Yankees M/L (B)
Cubs/Kansas City M/L (A)
Colorado/Yankees O/U (B)
Boston/Pittsbugh O/U (B)
Minnesota/Milwaukee M/L (A)
St. Louis/Toronto O/U (B)
Cleveland/Tampa Bay M/L (B)
Toronto/Detroit M/L (C)

jas0309 · 06-28-11, 09:31 AM

2011 System to date: 75-3
4 game chase System profit/loss: +50.308 units
1 unit bet per game no chase profit/loss: +8.74

(6/28/11) 1st Game San Francisco/Cubs Over 8.5 (-120) (A)
(6/28/11) Philadelphia M/L -121 (B) (A bet was +ML)
(6/28/11) Philadelphia M/L -121 (B) (A bet was +ML)
(6/28/11) Milwaukee M/L +119 (C) (A & B bet was +ML)
(6/28/11) Milwaukee M/L +119 (B) (A bet was +ML)
More later

A (46-40)
B (18-20)
C (8-7)
D (3-3)

OPEN BETS
Cubs/Kansas City M/L (A)
Colorado/Yankees O/U (B)
Boston/Pittsbugh O/U (B)
St. Louis/Toronto O/U (B)
Cleveland/Tampa Bay M/L (B)
Toronto/Detroit M/L (C)