AZplaya's 321 parlay system

[jolmscheid]

Can I ask why you need to parlay to do this? Could you just pick dogs and do this? I like the system for sure but I thought a system cannot be profitable longterm without having +ev plays?

[azplaya]

Can I ask why you need to parlay to do this? Could you just pick dogs and do this? I like the system for sure but I thought a system cannot be profitable longterm without having +ev plays?

You can definitely do this system just picking dogs instead of the parlays. In fact when I first discovered the labby system I started using it with straight bets. Its just that when you hit a cold streak your bets get massive in a hurry. Even if your betting dogs that are +150, if your labby starts to grow and you are trying to win like 15 units you still need to risk 10 units. I just find with parlays its easier to keep your bets manageable and stay afloat until you get hot and win a couple. The other thing I like about parlays is it gives me more flexibility when I'm picking games. If you play dogs then your gonna have to find 3 live dogs on the card every day. With parlays, you can pick a couple of small favs or a fav and a total or a dog and a heavy fav.
As far as the last part of your question, I really don't know. I know I read about this system from a guy who's been doing something similar for years in Vegas as a living. His system is to bet on 1 parlay a day and he basically trys to win 5% if his roll with every two parlay wins and his goal is to hit 8 parlays in a month to win 20-25% of his roll. Just Google "set your monthly income parlay system" and you can read about it.

[azplaya]

Jolms you got me thinking now about using this same type of system for straight betting dogs. I wouldn't bet 3 a day though. The reason I do 3 a day with parlays is because I can turn a profit by going 1-3. I've been hitting about 27% since I started so I actually go 1-3 quite often. With the lower payout on dogs, you would have to go 2-1 just to profit and that's gonna be tough. But...if we bet 2 a day, now we just need to hit 50%. Much more attainable. I wonder if the 3% 2% 1% would be the optimal amount or if the bets would get too big. I'm gonna have to think about this but I think I'm going to roll with it in conjunction with the parlay system and see what happens.

[azplaya]

OK so I went to the labby lab and here's what I've come up with. I'm going to set up another labby for straight betting dogs, two a day. Here's the numbers I've worked up:
2% 1% .5%
2% 1% .5%

I'm not going as big because our risk amount is going to be greater and I'd rather error on the side of caution. I think this should work, check out the numbers. We bet 2 a day that's 14 in a week. We need to hit 6 to complete the labby, which would require us to hit 42%. That would net 9% a week or 18% every two weeks, which is exactly what I try to do with the parlay labby. I have 25 pinnys on bet jam that I've been saving for a rainy day. So I'm going to run the underdog labby on bet jam and the parlay labby on 5 dimes. Also, I'm going to start a new parlay labby today. After tonight I'm up 12 units in 7 days, and I don't feel like ******* around with chasing this last bet. So here goes nothing...let's do this!

[azplaya]

Shit my maths off....that set up would be 7% a week not 9%. I gotta get some sleep and I'll look at it again tomorrow. Let me know what you all think about an optimal underdog labby amount.

[azplaya]

So here's my plan...I'm going to run two labbys on separate books. The first will be new system betting two dogs a day. I will set it up like this:
2.5% 1% .5%
2.5% 1% .5%

I'll be looking for two live dogs with at least +130 odds. Figure if I can kill one of these labbys each week I'll show a 32% profit for the month.

The second will be the same labby I've been running but I'm going to cut back on the amounts a bit since I'm running two systems at the same time. So the labby will be:
2.5% 1.5% 1%
2.5% 1.5% 1%
2.5% 1.5% 1%

So I'll run both simultaneously looking to profit 30% each month from each.

[azplaya]

Updated record after 7 days:
Overall 28-12 70%
Parlays 8-12
Units +12

[azplaya]

New labby amounts based on my roll and new percentages

Parlay labby
140 84 56
140 84 56
140 84 56

Dog labby
62.50 25 12.50
62.50 25 12.50

First parlay for today:
Yanks ML
Rays /tribe under 7.5
$51 to win $140

Dog #1
Cleveland +140
$44.60 to win $62.50

[jolmscheid]

Thanks for the insight AZ...I really like how you have this all set up and I think this could be something that could definitely work...I just worry about the cold streaks and the bets getting insanely high...but I will definitely try this out with you....

[jolmscheid]

Hey AZ...how come you aren't doing it the exact way that the "set your parlay monthly income system" is doing it? Like setting up your line like: 40-20-40 and then trying to win the two outside numbers first, and then the inside number? Is there a reason why you are doing it your way?

Thanks man...

[jolmscheid]

Hey AZ...i've been thinking...why not keep it easy and somewhat conservative....I think it could be smart to set up each line as 3% of your roll, so the goal is TO WIN 3% after each cleared line and you can run 2-3 lines at once....after each month, you then re-calc your lines....so if you have a $1,600 bankroll, have 2-3 lines that aim TO WIN $50 per cleared line:

20-10-20


What do you think?

[azplaya]

New labby amounts based on my roll and new percentages

Parlay labby
140 84 56
140 84 56
140 84 56

Dog labby
62.50 25 12.50
62.50 25 12.50

First parlay for today:
Yanks ML
Rays /tribe under 7.5
$51 to win $140

Dog #1
Cleveland +140
$44.60 to win $62.50

[azplaya]

Dog play #2 - braves runline

[jolmscheid]

GL AZ! Would appreciate some insight as to the way I stated above...you think that would work similar to yours? Thanks!

[azplaya]

Last two:
Dbacks ML
Giants ML
$50 to win $140

Reds / Braves over 7.5
Cards +1.5
$59 to win $140

[azplaya]

Hey bro been out on the lake all day wasn't blowing you off. The reason I do it my way is because I like to bet to win balanced amounts each night . With the 40 20 40 system your always playing uneven amount if you have more than one labby line. Example:

40 20 40
40 20 40
40 20 40

Say you bet 30 to win 80 3 times and lose 2 win one.

Next night you have
50 30 50
50 30 50
X 20 X

SO you bet 40 to win 100 twice and say $8 to win. You hit your $8 bet. So you just went 1-3 on parlays and lost a chunk. That happens all the time when you set it up this way. With my set up I just find it easier to keep my bets balanced.

[GeeVee86]

I need to find the stat for Yankees against unknowns, but the Under is almost always a lock against a subpar team. I will find the stat so you can lock that up in our parlays

[azplaya]

I need to find the stat for Yankees against unknowns, but the Under is almost always a lock against a subpar team. I will find the stat so you can lock that up in our parlays

Ya man I had a lean to the under but just couldn't pull the trigger on a number that small with the Yanks offensive capabilities

[jolmscheid]

Thanks AZ...that makes more sense...and does each play have it's own line then?? Or do you spread the losses over all 3 lines? Thanks AZ

[serbertol]

What a pity: Braves only 5-1
Good luck today

[azplaya]

Late post today, been partying all day at havasu, here's the play for tonight didn't get any in today: Updated labby, don't have time to update overall units and record.


X 145 56
145 100 56
145 100 56

Only one tonight because I didn't have much time to look at the games.

Marlins ML
Mariners ML

$55 to win 145

[serbertol]

Better today, don't worry

[jolmscheid]

GL AZ...I like the concept a lot..will be interesting to see how it plays out!

[Lucylee]

Is Mr. AZplaya still alive? maybe he fell off one of the house boats he was on over the weekend???

[Lucylee]

can anyone respond to az's absence? did i miss a post? is this thread finished??

[azplaya]

Didn't post yesterday because I had a ton of catch up at work. Made a couple plays on dogs and 2 parlays and went 0-2 with giants rangers and mavs losing close ones. On to today!

Parlay labby
X 180 56
X 180 56
180 100 56
Play 1:
A's
Mariners
$88

Play 2
Giants
Tigers
$84.50


Dog labby
110 73 12.50
110 73 12.50

0-4 so far on straight dog plays, hoping to turn this around.

[azplaya]

Didn't post yesterday because I had a ton of catch up at work. Made a couple plays on dogs and 2 parlays and went 0-2 with giants rangers and mavs losing close ones. On to today!

Parlay labby
X 180 56
X 180 56
180 100 56
Play 1:
A's
Mariners
$88

Play 2
Giants
Tigers
$84.50


Dog labby
110 73 12.50
110 73 12.50

0-4 so far on straight dog plays, hoping to turn this around.

[Lucylee]

thanks for posting! they look like winners to me

[azplaya]

Play 3
Dodgers
Brewers
$58

[azplaya]

Dog play #1
Bos Vancouver over 5.5 +125
$88

[serbertol]

Thanks for the picks, good luck today.

[azplaya]

One thing I really like about the parlay system is what happened last night. My plays went 2-4 but I had the two winners in a parlay so ended up + for the night. Looks like I will find out if I was too aggressive with my amounts for the dog labby as I have started 0-6 on dogs.
Updated labbys

Parlay labby
X 196 56
X 196 56
X 196 56


Dog labby
154 117 12.50
154 117 12.50

[Lucylee]

flat bets

One thing I really like about the parlay system is what happened last night. My plays went 2-4 but I had the two winners in a parlay so ended up + for the night. Looks like I will find out if I was too aggressive with my amounts for the dog labby as I have started 0-6 on dogs.
Updated labbys

Parlay labby
X 196 56
X 196 56
X 196 56


Dog labby
154 117 12.50
154 117 12.50

When you flat bet your plays, do you use a labby as well? Or do you just accept them as losses and wins at the end of the day? I'm assuming it would be hard to chase, given you have a variety of plays within your parlays!

[azplaya]

Play 1
Dbacks
Mets
$86

[azplaya]

When you flat bet your plays, do you use a labby as well? Or do you just accept them as losses and wins at the end of the day? I'm assuming it would be hard to chase, given you have a variety of plays within your parlays!

I don't flat bet these plays just play them as parlays. I only include my overall record because people on sbr are all about records. Once I've been at it for awhile on here I'm actually not going to keep track of my overall record and just list my overall unit results. Right now the only plays I'm flat betting are my 2 dog plays because I'm trying out a dog labby with straight betting dogs.