How bad is Zito?

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  • Dark Horse
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-14-05
    • 13764

    #1
    How bad is Zito?
    I want to fade the White Sox tonight, but the Giants have lost every Zito start, and he has a terrible ERA, so I'd really like to be paid more than the +125 that is out there. How bad is Zito?
  • St. Andrew
    SBR MVP
    • 02-23-08
    • 2265

    #2
    Originally posted by Dark Horse
    I want to fade the White Sox tonight, but the Giants have lost every Zito start, and he has a terrible ERA, so I'd really like to be paid more than the +125 that is out there. How bad is Zito?
    In all of Zito's starts this year, the Giants --on average-- give up 6.1 runs per game total. In all of Beuhrle's starts this year, the White Sox give up --on average-- 6.1 runs per game total. These pitchers have identical stats.

    Over the last 10 games, the Giants are scoring 3.8 runs per game, the White Sox are scoring 4.1 runs per game.

    These teams match up identically, but I would give the nod to the Giants because they are at home.
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    • Doc JS
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 09-15-06
      • 6885

      #3
      DH,
      Zito has actually pitched a bit better since he was banished to, but never pitched out of, the bullpen.

      It's a combo deal. Zito has been really bad. The Giants don't score a ton of runs. The result has not been pretty.

      Surely, Zito will win one at some point this season. And it may even be tonight, but I don't think that betting the "he's due" theory is a great way to go.

      FWIW the CWS are one of LT's BPS plays for today.

      BOL either way!

      Doc
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      • Dark Horse
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 12-14-05
        • 13764

        #4
        Thanks guys. I'll wait for the line to improve. Hard to bet on Zito, but probably will.
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        • St. Andrew
          SBR MVP
          • 02-23-08
          • 2265

          #5
          Originally posted by Dark Horse
          Thanks guys. I'll wait for the line to improve. Hard to bet on Zito, but probably will.
          You have to also consider that the Giants'/Zito's stats are equal to Sox/Buehrle, but the Giants didn't have the benefit of a DH. Tonight they will. Another advantage to the Giants.
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          • Al Masters
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 04-29-06
            • 6940

            #6
            I believe the play is over 8.5 -115
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            • chipski
              SBR MVP
              • 11-16-07
              • 1745

              #7
              Originally posted by St. Andrew
              You have to also consider that the Giants'/Zito's stats are equal to Sox/Buehrle, but the Giants didn't have the benefit of a DH. Tonight they will. Another advantage to the Giants.
              tonight they will what ? not have a dh right so is an advantage for the giants ?
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              • ryanXL977
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 02-24-08
                • 20615

                #8
                chisox are better than the giants
                anyway you cut it
                the sox pen is solid
                the giants pen isnt
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                • chipski
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-16-07
                  • 1745

                  #9
                  the best the mets have is easley to put at dh ? he just struck out with bases loaded . good thing they have the dh . sad he has struck out twice already , guess he missed the meeting . the pitcher would have been a better option .
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                  • chipski
                    SBR MVP
                    • 11-16-07
                    • 1745

                    #10
                    zito lost this time last year 15 - 3 at the A's . zito surendered 6 hits , 7 walks and 7 runs . it was on friday night though , not saturday . lol
                    giants avoided the sweep in that 1st round of interleauge by winning sunday 4 - 1 , morris over kennedy .
                    i know what you feel by wanting to play zito to get his first win . i did that his last start .
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                    • Hellerud
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 05-10-08
                      • 179

                      #11
                      low scoring game tonight boys.. zito will get his win i blieve... but it will be like 3-2 both teams catch hit either pitcher...
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                      • Illusion
                        Restricted User
                        • 08-09-05
                        • 25166

                        #12
                        Zito is due for a win tonight, so I like the Giants.
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                        • Doc JS
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 09-15-06
                          • 6885

                          #13
                          DH,
                          Zito didn't pitch badly for you. Giants just can't score.

                          Name IP H R ER BB K ERA*
                          B Zito 5.0 8 2 2 6 4 6.25
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