im gonna fade these sps soon

[ryanXL977]

micah owings
cliff lee
zack greinke
john danks
livan hernandez
kyle lohse
dempster

these guys are # 3 starters, they are not top 20 era guys

not one of them is gonna win 15+ games

[Central07]

I think Lohse will be a 16 game winner this year, Duncan has changed the way he pitches

[OLGC_Slayer]

Greinke looked pretty good the game I watched him. He has good stuff. Most of the rest I agree with.