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  • PLUSLINES
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    • 10-30-07
    • 631

    #36
    I use Betcris. The stats were based on the top 2 runline odds teams nightly each night of the 07 MLB regular season. That is a specific as I know to be. Sorry if that does not answer all questions.
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    • beetman
      SBR High Roller
      • 05-31-06
      • 220

      #37
      Originally posted by ktorp18
      as long as he keeps the place where he gets the odds as a constant, it should be ok.
      If a system requires using a single book, where you'll usually get a worse line than you would with line shopping, it is fundamentally flawed. Compare how often you would get a better line on somewhere like Matchbook compared to CRIS and I bet the vast majority of the time Matchbook will be better.
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      • ktorp18
        SBR High Roller
        • 04-09-08
        • 100

        #38
        Originally posted by beetman
        If a system requires using a single book, where you'll usually get a worse line than you would with line shopping, it is fundamentally flawed. Compare how often you would get a better line on somewhere like Matchbook compared to CRIS and I bet the vast majority of the time Matchbook will be better.
        well then he could just use cris for the system and matchbook to place the bets.
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        • ktorp18
          SBR High Roller
          • 04-09-08
          • 100

          #39
          delete post
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          • PLUSLINES
            Restricted User
            • 10-30-07
            • 631

            #40
            Originally posted by ktorp18
            well then he could just use cris for the system and matchbook to place the bets.
            which is exactly what I do
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            • PLUSLINES
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              • 10-30-07
              • 631

              #41
              Cubs and Boston two heaviest runline teams using betcris for today. . I have not found a way to place wagers if the games both start at the same time. That would be a good thing. I dont think an "If Bet" of this nature is allowed..
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              • PLUSLINES
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                • 10-30-07
                • 631

                #42
                Philli and Cinci are the #1 and #2 heaviest favored runline teams for today @ Betcris at the time of this post.....and they play at different times(Philli first). This poses an opportunity to play a 2 step progression on these.

                Everyone have a great day!
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                • PLUSLINES
                  Restricted User
                  • 10-30-07
                  • 631

                  #43
                  Another winning day for this system!!!

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                  • PLUSLINES
                    Restricted User
                    • 10-30-07
                    • 631

                    #44
                    Monday once again presents an opportunity for this system. NYM and AZ are the top two runline teams @ Betcris for Monday. NYM plays at 6:10 pm CST and AZ starts @ 8:40 pm CST.

                    Good Luck for Anyone Following!
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                    • PLUSLINES
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                      • 10-30-07
                      • 631

                      #45
                      Originally posted by PLUSLINES
                      Philli and Cinci are the #1 and #2 heaviest favored runline teams for today @ Betcris at the time of this post.....and they play at different times(Philli first). This poses an opportunity to play a 2 step progression on these.

                      Everyone have a great day!
                      Cinci winner!!

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                      • PLUSLINES
                        Restricted User
                        • 10-30-07
                        • 631

                        #46
                        Originally posted by PLUSLINES
                        Cubs and Boston two heaviest runline teams using betcris for today. . I have not found a way to place wagers if the games both start at the same time. That would be a good thing. I dont think an "If Bet" of this nature is allowed..
                        Cubs winners!
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                        • PLUSLINES
                          Restricted User
                          • 10-30-07
                          • 631

                          #47
                          Originally posted by PLUSLINES
                          Monday once again presents an opportunity for this system. NYM and AZ are the top two runline teams @ Betcris for Monday. NYM plays at 6:10 pm CST and AZ starts @ 8:40 pm CST.

                          Good Luck for Anyone Following!
                          Anyone with any questions on this system let me know!
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                          • pubster77
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 04-25-08
                            • 215

                            #48
                            do you just consider the top two runline teams to be the two -1.5 runlines which have the lowest payouts?

                            Your system has been working well so far, but how do you know this actually happens around 85% of the time over the long haul?
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                            • ktorp18
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 04-09-08
                              • 100

                              #49
                              when you can't play both games the same day, have you tried chasing the next day if the #1 worst odds doesnt win one day?
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                              • PLUSLINES
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                                • 10-30-07
                                • 631

                                #50
                                Originally posted by pubster77
                                do you just consider the top two runline teams to be the two -1.5 runlines which have the lowest payouts?

                                Your system has been working well so far, but how do you know this actually happens around 85% of the time over the long haul?
                                Yes, the top two teams are the ones with the lowest(payout)Runline odds for any given day.

                                Well, all I can speak to is the time I have monitored and that would be the 07 season.

                                As far as chasing the second day, I haven't done that yet but feel it could potentially be effective. I would have to do more looking into that scenario.
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                                • PLUSLINES
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 10-30-07
                                  • 631

                                  #51
                                  Tonight offers another opportunity for the 2 step progression:

                                  NYM 6:10 pm CST
                                  Ariz 8:40 CST

                                  These are the two teams with the lowest payout Runline odds at the time of this messsage.
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                                  • pubster77
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 04-25-08
                                    • 215

                                    #52
                                    Is the probability that the best run line team wins greater than the probability that the second best run line team wins?

                                    If so, having a 2 series with the best run line teams of two consecutive days would win more often than the top two run line teams of a single day as you would be betting on the best team both days.
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                                    • PLUSLINES
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 10-30-07
                                      • 631

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by pubster77
                                      Is the probability that the best run line team wins greater than the probability that the second best run line team wins?

                                      If so, having a 2 series with the best run line teams of two consecutive days would win more often than the top two run line teams of a single day as you would be betting on the best team both days.
                                      I just have not tested that sequence
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                                      • pubster77
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 04-25-08
                                        • 215

                                        #54
                                        ok cool.

                                        Ill look for it this year.

                                        For how many plays have you tested this out on? Is there a way to back test this? ie. Is there a way to check the run lines of games that have already been played for the past few years to see how often this holds true?
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                                        • PLUSLINES
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 10-30-07
                                          • 631

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by pubster77
                                          ok cool.

                                          Ill look for it this year.

                                          For how many plays have you tested this out on? Is there a way to back test this? ie. Is there a way to check the run lines of games that have already been played for the past few years to see how often this holds true?
                                          It could be done.....by someone.

                                          You would have to go back every day and get the runline odds for every team. You would also have to ensure that you captured the information for the exact same time for each team for that day. I use Betcris to get the lines for this purpose so you would have to use this book also. This would be very time consuming to try and gather the historical data.

                                          It is looking good (early) for tonight for Arizona -1.5. The score is currently 4-0 snakes in the 5th
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                                          • PLUSLINES
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 10-30-07
                                            • 631

                                            #56
                                            Looks like I might have spoke too soon...
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                                            • PLUSLINES
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 10-30-07
                                              • 631

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by PLUSLINES
                                              It could be done.....by someone.

                                              You would have to go back every day and get the runline odds for every team. You would also have to ensure that you captured the information for the exact same time for each team for that day. I use Betcris to get the lines for this purpose so you would have to use this book also. This would be very time consuming to try and gather the historical data.

                                              It is looking good (early) for tonight for Arizona -1.5. The score is currently 4-0 snakes in the 5th
                                              GOT'EM!
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                                              • pubster77
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 04-25-08
                                                • 215

                                                #58
                                                But the mets game was rained out, so doesnt that kill your series, as you couldnt bet on the top two runline plays?
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                                                • PLUSLINES
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 10-30-07
                                                  • 631

                                                  #59
                                                  It could potentially, but I went with it anyway.
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                                                  • pubster77
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 04-25-08
                                                    • 215

                                                    #60
                                                    For today I have $20 on the Phillies runline, and if they lose I have an additional $40 on the mets runline (I am doing this with a person not an online sportsbook).

                                                    Lets see how long this trend continues =)
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                                                    • mofome
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 12-19-07
                                                      • 13003

                                                      #61
                                                      gl today plus! i hope your system has been kicking tail.

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                                                      • PLUSLINES
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 10-30-07
                                                        • 631

                                                        #62
                                                        Thanks MO! So far so good!


                                                        Hope things for you goin well also!

                                                        Getting ready to crank up the "real deal" on May 1.

                                                        By the way...........what part of Texas ya in?
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                                                        • pubster77
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 04-25-08
                                                          • 215

                                                          #63
                                                          Philly covered.

                                                          another +1 day for the system. =)
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                                                          • PLUSLINES
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 10-30-07
                                                            • 631

                                                            #64
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                                                            • ktorp18
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 04-09-08
                                                              • 100

                                                              #65
                                                              you think this could be related to the odds run line games get and not if its the best odds for the day? perhaps the favorite in the run line hits pretty well when the odds are EVEN or something like that.
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                                                              • PLUSLINES
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 10-30-07
                                                                • 631

                                                                #66
                                                                Today(Wednesday) offers another opportunity to participate in the system. Mets and Cleveland are the two teams. Just as an FYI...today is the last day that I will be able to post. I wish all the very best of luck today and going forward. I hope that somewhere I helped others make some money. PL
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                                                                • pubster77
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 04-25-08
                                                                  • 215

                                                                  #67
                                                                  I had Boston and Cleveland as the top two teams today.

                                                                  Maybe Cleveland and Arizona have the same runline odds.

                                                                  I agree with KTorp as this has likely more to do with the value of the odds, and not what the rank of the odds are relative to each other.
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                                                                  • PLUSLINES
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 10-30-07
                                                                    • 631

                                                                    #68
                                                                    And another winner with Cleveland..



                                                                    Tonight was my final play. Glad I ended it on a winning note.

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                                                                    • Hip2Bsq
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 02-20-08
                                                                      • 163

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Has anyone been monitoring this? I played the Mets - 1.5 today
                                                                      @ -130 and got an easy winner. Thanks Pluslines.

                                                                      I was prepared to play Bosox -1.5 @ -115 if the mets did not cash. Both would have won,

                                                                      Lines are from Station casinos in LV
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                                                                      • Hip2Bsq
                                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                                        • 02-20-08
                                                                        • 163

                                                                        #70
                                                                        I think Atlanta 's 2nd game would have qualified as THE play today. But because of the first game and the Braves not hitting I could not do it. Its is going to end up an easy winner as they are 8-1 at this moment.
                                                                        So instead the next worst odds looked like Cubs @ +115. I like this play better on paper as the Cubs have outscored the Pads 211 - 122 on the season.
                                                                        Added to that, Zambrano seems to be in good form early on.
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