santana getting tatooed today

[Crayzee]

by cards

they pounded him in his first outing too

i think he did pretty good in at least one other outing

mets may have been had

could be some good fading boys

[austintx05]

1. its ST
2. Santana is a post All Star break pitcher

[LT Profits]

Established starters that get rocked in spring training means absolutely nothing. It's not like it is some pitcher fighting for a spot in the rotation.

A lot of times when good (in this case great) pitchers get bombed in these games, it is because they are trying out some new stuff or experimenting with some pitches. Thus, it actually HELPS them in the long run because they could gauge what works annd what doesn't.

[OLGC_Slayer]

Spring training really doesn't mean much. Which is why I shy away from betting on the games. If other people are successful at it power to them but for me there are just too many unknown factors.
Some of these guys arent really ready until May or June and then there are still 4 months left.